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On March 18 2008 17:27 Ghar wrote: I have a plan to find fake detectives. Using up their 2 investigates is not a problem if you can be sure the mayor and the detectives are the real deal.
Ghar, for me--
Taipan Snake is an Australian snake, and you are from Australia, so there is a chance you are mafia!
+ Show Spoiler + 1/9th chance, but still...
[ara@alx64dev tls2]$ grep Australia users.details | wc -l 9
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On March 18 2008 17:08 CDRdude wrote: SunuvBob: After asking around a bit, he decided to run for mayor. I guess this shows that he isn't afraid of a bit of work looking through profiles, but at first he was asking others to do it for him. In his favor, he is a mod--I assume that he has methods of searching at his disposal that we do not (can you search for posts by a certain person? I don't know how). His platform is also excellent.
All good leaders know how to delegate.
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On March 18 2008 17:31 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 17:25 araav wrote:Hey, CDR got some work there... thanks! okay, first, i am unknown mafia-wise, right now, know me! I read every single post in the 1st mafia. I was really surprised how stupid can a mayor be. If i am a mafia, detectives can find it really easy, then people can lynch me as soon as they find no more double lynch is needed. I spent only 30 minutes to get the list of profile, my linux awk skills did it + Show Spoiler +for you -- #! /bin/gawk -f BEGIN { username=ENVIRON["CURRENT_USER"] echo username if (username == "") { print("No CURRENT_USER defined"); exit 1; } } /User name/ { puname=1; next; } /Joined TL.net/ {pjoin=1; next; } /Birthday/ {pbd=1; next; } /Country/ {pct=1; next; } /Quote/ {pquote=1; next; } /Public Profile:/{ppublic=1; next; } // { if (puname == 1 && uname == "") { // parse this line as user name gsub(/<\/font.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); uname = trim($0); puname=0 } if (pjoin == 1 && join == "") { gsub(/<\/td.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); join = trim($0); pjoin=0 } if (pbd == 1 && bd == "") { gsub(/<\/td.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); bd = trim($0); pbd=0 } if (pct == 1 && ct == "") { gsub(/<\/td.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); ct = trim($0); pct=0 } if (pquote == 1 && quote == "") { gsub(/<\/td.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); quote = trim($0); pquote=0 } if (ppublic == 1 && public == "") { } } END { dir="./users/" username system("mkdir -p '" dir "'"); fln = dir "/joined tl.net" print join > fln fln = dir "/birthday" print bd > fln fln = dir "/country" print ct > fln fln = dir "/quote" print quote > fln fln = dir "/dispname" print uname > fln print " Display Name : " uname print " Birthday : " bd print " Country : " ct print " Joined : " join print " Quote : " quote } function trim(s) { gsub(/^[[:blank ]*/, "", s); gsub(/[[:blank ]*$/, "", s); return s } ok, now stop looking around and vote for araav! sick c++ skills you got there, araav.
sure I got, I am in top 30 in brainbench by c++ skills, but this is AWK, not c++
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On March 18 2008 17:22 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 17:14 Ghar wrote: You'll be able to know if there are fake detectives if the mayor suddenly has more than 4 people report to him. 2.) Towny mayor: This is hard. Early on, you can't really trust who's who and the mayor doesn't know who the fake detectives are. Later on, however, if 4 of those 6 report in again when asked, then it becomes somewhat easier to discern people. If more than 4, then ask for a third time. Those who do report in are fakes then. However, you do this at the expense of losing all your detective reports for the game, so do this at your own risk.
In scenario 2, The Mayor immediately role claims for all 6.
Essentially, he says 6 people reported and only 4 can be DTS, and puts ALL the names into public. Now the Town has 2 sure fire Mafia, the Medics can easily see who they should think about saving, and the Mafia is fucked because if they don't kill any of the real DTs at night they live to investigate another night. If they DO kill any of the DTs, then that just tightens the noose on the other 2 Mafia posing DTs.
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On March 18 2008 17:33 araav wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 17:27 Ghar wrote: I have a plan to find fake detectives. Using up their 2 investigates is not a problem if you can be sure the mayor and the detectives are the real deal. Ghar, for me-- Taipan Snake is an Australian snake, and you are from Australia, so there is a chance you are mafia! + Show Spoiler + 1/9th chance, but still...
[ara@alx64dev tls2]$ grep Australia users.details | wc -l 9
and don't forget about my earlier post. That quote I cited is his.
On March 18 2008 16:46 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Well, I may have been posting too much ever since the day was posted but whatever....
1. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good. Eight people. Eight cardinal directions. This, I think, equates to being surrounded from all sides. Now, I direct attention to this person's profile quote: Quote : All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. Well, if they're on the left, right, front, and behind, sounds like a situation where you're surrounded as well. Coincidence? *shrugs*
Also, two statements indicating making a decision where in the clue are: 1. either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner 2. either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!
Hope my analysis gives a jump start on discussion pre-mayoral election.
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hey, it takes me 5-10 minutes to write a small script to download the pages from TL, grep the person's posts, posts, where he's mentioned, etc. or anything else.
don't worry, town, will do that anyway, mayor or not
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On March 18 2008 17:33 araav wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 17:27 Ghar wrote: I have a plan to find fake detectives. Using up their 2 investigates is not a problem if you can be sure the mayor and the detectives are the real deal. Ghar, for me-- Taipan Snake is an Australian snake, and you are from Australia, so there is a chance you are mafia! + Show Spoiler + 1/9th chance, but still...
[ara@alx64dev tls2]$ grep Australia users.details | wc -l 9
Also... "All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time" is Ghars quote; dapperdan was surrounded, or at least seemed to be, as he tried to make his escape. And of course, taipan snake is from australia. i haven't found any direct link of the word ghar and it's various meanings to any of that though, but anything that raises suspicous means it's probably best to stray away from that person as mayor. mafia or not, caution will weed out the incompetent mayors as well as the mafia.
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On March 18 2008 17:31 ahrara_ wrote: Ok ACE, I think Ghar's already posted your plan. So as I understand it, it's up for a real detective to report the mayor as mafia in case he is mafia. To verify this, we lynch said detective (as he's going to get killed anyway if he's real) to see if he's telling the truth. If he wasn't, that's one mafia down. If he was, then we lynch the mayor next. From there on, the mayor does his best to verify the other roles. I buy it so far, but I'll think about it before I vote. For now anyway, my vote is leading towards Ghar, because it's becoming more apparent to me how much rests on the mayor's shoulders, and Ghar's the only one who's given us a solid strategy. I also don't think he's mafia because of how fast his candidacy came up. I agree with bumatlarge. If I were mob, I wouldn't go run for mayor on a whim the moment the game starts.
don't lynch the DT - if he's legit let the Mafia have to kill him and waste killing power. Or, let another DT verify him. In this case if a Mafia member poses DT we have a sure fire place to nab them off of now.
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Oh and about the quote in Ghar's profile:
All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us... they can't get away this time" -- Lieutenant General Lewis B."Chesty" Puller (when surrounded by 8 enemy divisions) - United States Marine Corps
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Fantastic! Let's get this started. Let's consider our strategy first of all. With that in mind I URGE everyone to make all their voting decisions based upon the clues and not hunches. What last game proved is that people tend to simply pick on those that make the most posts. Do not be drawn in to that trap.
Our first task, however, is to vote for someone to be Mayor and make sure he is not Mafia. In light of the circumstances I have voted for Araav. There are 2 reasons for this:
1: He is the oldest and he has sick C++ skills Here we have 2 reasons to vote for him, that are exclusive to the game. That is to say they don't bare any resemblance to tactical play or just mass effort (like randombums massive PM spam). He just happens to be the oldest and be good at programming.
2. Because none of the clues point to him at all. ARAAV stands for Armored Reconnaissance Airborne Assault Vehicle. And his sig is: "Quote : The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all." Which is a quote from the Disney film Mulan.
I have looked over the first post many times and I see nothing that points to him. Please double check my findings before you vote for him.
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i voted for araav ive looked through every profile, not extensively but enough to analyze them somewhat and put somethings in perspective for myself regarding who fits where. araav hasn't, in what i've looked at and read, shown reason to be suspected and has so far shown enough intiative and work to be a good mayor -- or at least one who won't fuck us over. also listing the info in one post is helpful for the town for quick references instead of going through every profile(as i did><), and i don't think any mafia would put effort into really helping out the town, even if their running for mayor.
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So far, the one who seems to be willing to help out the most in my eyes is Ace. He's posting good arguments and points for the upcoming game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and label him as non-scum for now.
As for the last two people who posted helping to campaign for araav.......hmmm.....very interesting when araav seems to be campaigning for himself just fine and you two come out of the blue to back him. I won't point fingers yet but I'll keep an eye on you two.
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CDRdude, I think you left out Ace from your list of mayoral canditates I'd fix that if I were you!
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My top suspect as of now:
Ghar
Ok, It's 2:15 AM here. G'night fellow townies.
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I am really glad for your support, guys. I was going to post something Klive5ive did about matching the clues vs me. Even though this isn't enough to prove I am a townie, but as soon as later we get the this proved by detectives, we;ll have a mayor to trust to.
To fight against the mafia's strength, we need a group of dedicated townies. I will do my best to collect this group - one by one. No single mafia can slip in.
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On March 18 2008 18:12 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: As for the last two people who posted helping to campaign for araav.......hmmm.....very interesting when araav seems to be campaigning for himself just fine and you two come out of the blue to back him. I won't point fingers yet but I'll keep an eye on you two.
I merely want what all Townies want; a Mayor who isn't Mafia. As I said don't be drawn into the trap of suspecting people just because they post. If you find a clue that points to me... fair enough. But there isn't one.
The first thing that struck me when reading the Day1 post was the Quentin Tarantino references. I've looked through all of the player's quotes and none of them are Tarantino references. No-one has a name that is obviously Tarantino related either. So I guess that "clue" was a hoax.
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I was tickled when I saw that I had two pms, one being from Randombum. If he took the time to present his case to everyone, then he has the time to be a good mayor. He looks to have my vote.
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On March 18 2008 18:12 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: So far, the one who seems to be willing to help out the most in my eyes is Ace. He's posting good arguments and points for the upcoming game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and label him as non-scum for now.
As for the last two people who posted helping to campaign for araav.......hmmm.....very interesting when araav seems to be campaigning for himself just fine and you two come out of the blue to back him. I won't point fingers yet but I'll keep an eye on you two.
my vote for him was after having gone through all the profiles etc.(as i stated previously), and going through the candidates for mayor that are running so far, i was simply giving my reason for voting for him, not helping campaign for him.
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On March 18 2008 18:27 Evilmonkey. wrote: I was tickled when I saw that I had two pms, one being from Randombum. If he took the time to present his case to everyone, then he has the time to be a good mayor. He looks to have my vote.
the problem with that is it was rather inefficient to send pms like that to everyone, and it wasn't a personal request; the time it took to send out the same pm to everyone seems to be the main reason people are even considering to vote for him, and that is a rather silly way to vote for the mayor. it would have been much simpler had he just announced his running for mayor in the thread, which points to him not being the best person for mayor. it's not only about who might be mafia, it's about who is best for the job.
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I didn't want to say this only a bit later (in order to not get lynched by an outrageous crowd) but Ghar is VERY suspicious to me. His profile quote just perfectly matches the given clue (sorrounded by 8 people, or 8 enemy squads).
If I get killed by mafia now - you'll know who to lynch next day
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