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SonuvBob

Aiur21549 Posts

March 18 2008 07:18 GMT

#381

Er.. I mean by me. Not kidnapped children.

I am not a douche.

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

March 18 2008 07:19 GMT

#382

Yeah, but it's not like he just set up a mailing list. He still had to PM them all one by one, and to me that shows dedication. Seriously though, I actually might change my vote to ghar later since his strategy makes sense, and I actually trust bumatlarge's theory about 87-88%.

Meta

United States6225 Posts

March 18 2008 07:28 GMT

#383

I voted for sonuvbob. I am highly dismayed by douches, and as such, I think he runs a clean platform.

Also I'm predicting randombum got mafia. His campaign died out as soon as the day post dropped.

Ghar

Australia62 Posts

March 18 2008 07:29 GMT

#384

More ideas since the thread just got quiet
Most important roles to ally with the mayor are detectives, jacks, vigilantes, and medics.

Detectives and jacks for investigating roles. I won't reveal this too much since it could help mafia plan their strategy if they haven't already thought of it, but I'll discuss it further with detectives.

Vigilantes for killing power on top of lynching. Though at the moment I'm still contemplating whether it's beneficial to start weeding numbers quickly, or wait until a relatively sure kill before attacking.

Medics to make sure our jacks, detectives and vigilantes are alive.

Vets are just cannon fodder I think, best used to dull down mafia hits per night. They wouldn't serve a direct strategy for weeding out mafia unless anyone has ideas.

Thoughts and suggestions guys?

araav

Armenia1590 Posts

March 18 2008 07:31 GMT

#385

Here we go! Voting araav for mayor

1. I am the oldest here (from profiles)
2. will double lynch after several rounds only.
3. If I happen to be pardoner, and not mayor (get the second highest votes), will pardon the first day lynches, unless the case is really VERY logical
4. I hate how stupid Steve was last game
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6. more coming...

aZnvaLiaNce

United States942 Posts

March 18 2008 07:33 GMT

#386

On March 18 2008 16:31 araav wrote:
Here we go! Voting araav for mayor

1. I am the oldest here (from profiles)
2. will double lynch after several rounds only.
3. If I happen to be pardoner, and not mayor (get the second highest votes), will pardon the first day lynches, unless the case is really VERY logical
4. I hate how stupid Steve was last game
5. this
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6. more coming...

.....wow.....he actually did it.....

by the way, please vote in the allocated thread. We townies don't want the wrath of Chuiu to be brought down upon us this early in the game.

edit: and rules state self-voting is not allowed, either. Sorry for sounding strict.

SonuvBob

Aiur21549 Posts

March 18 2008 07:36 GMT

#387

On March 18 2008 15:52 SonuvBob wrote:
I'll vote for anyone who posts all 130 sigs and profiles.

Ok, I voted for araav, as promised.

You should still vote for me though.

In addition to not being a douche, I can read edits. How cool is that?!

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 18 2008 07:40 GMT

#388

On March 18 2008 16:29 Ghar wrote:
More ideas since the thread just got quiet

Though at the moment I'm still contemplating whether it's beneficial to start weeding numbers quickly, or wait until a relatively sure kill before attacking.

Thoughts and suggestions guys?

I like to start the game off with weeding out strats that are easy to follow - this controls discussion and gives everyone focal points.

One of the biggest reasons the Townies always lose is because they start posting nonsense, arguing about retarded shit, revenge voting, and seem to listen to the most nonsense posts for voting someone to get lynched.

With weeding strats:

1.) We keep the focus on a few people
2.) allows the Detectives to split up their work. If they see the town gunning for some people, they can investigate OTHER people. This is a major help.
3.) Mafia members can no longer sit back and watch the town kill themselves - they have to get in on discussions. This way, they are in the spotlight just like we need them to be.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

March 18 2008 07:42 GMT

#389

I'm voting for Sonuv, he's a townie for sure.

Ghar

Australia62 Posts

March 18 2008 07:44 GMT

#390

On March 18 2008 16:40 Ace wrote:

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A few things though. Detectives can only investigate 2 people. That means the bulk of their work will be interpreting clues and vote checks. They have to choose who they investigate carefully, and I think it's best done with people confirming roles to the mayor.
I have other ideas for detectives, but that's for later in case mafia picks up on it.

aZnvaLiaNce

United States942 Posts

March 18 2008 07:46 GMT

#391

Well, I may have been posting too much ever since the day was posted but whatever....

1. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good.
Eight people. Eight cardinal directions. This, I think, equates to being surrounded from all sides. Now, I direct attention to this person's profile quote:
Quote : All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time.
Well, if they're on the left, right, front, and behind, sounds like a situation where you're surrounded as well. Coincidence? *shrugs*

Also, two statements indicating making a decision where in the clue are:
1. either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner
2. either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!

Hope my analysis gives a jump start on discussion pre-mayoral election.

Meta

United States6225 Posts

March 18 2008 07:47 GMT

#392

Mafia Codenames in order of appearence:
Also, I added the parts of the story that immediately reference each mafia member, especially if I think there's a clue in there.

Eddie - The mafia leader

Joe

Sidewinder
"Stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable."

Mr. Red

Mr. Black

Mr. Blonde
"Coming out of nowhere it seemed."
-Lysithea has muhammed ali quote in his sig...

King Brown Snake
"[DapperDan] met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again."

The Wolf
"The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head."

Taipan Snake
"Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time."

Enigma
"Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"."
-Perhaps GranDim?

Mr. Pink
""Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding""

Mr. Blue
"Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law.""

Kuja900

United States3564 Posts

March 18 2008 07:49 GMT

#393

On March 18 2008 16:09 SonuvBob wrote:
Ah what the hell,

I'm announcing my candidacy for mayor.

My platform: Being less of a douche than Steve was.

bah screw it why not

I would like to run for mayor KUJA900 is the name

My Platform: To be more of a douch than Fakesteve could even comprehend!!!!!!

nah not really but if you smiled at this even remotely gimme your vote

-doubt you did but still *puppy dog eyes* vote for lil ol me

but in all seriousness yal prolly dont know me but i have reasons why you should pick me

1. see bolded text above

2. Im on the boards quite often and can promise you that i will read through your comments and suggestions for double lynching.

3. if you play dopewars ive recently discovered the secret to ultimate power il share it with you in pm if i win election ^_^.

4. I promise to thorougly analyse all clues and state my opinions for you all to see.

5. I cant be any worse then that Fakesteve and he won last time

So vote for me i may not be a bigshot mod or have an amazingly high post count but im a liquidian like all of you im from the simple folk not them big tall hat wearin 3k post guys and mods so if you want someone who knows your pain and understands your cries vote for me for mayor of liquidia.

btw thats not to say i wont take you high post count/mod votes if your one of those pls ignore the paragraph above and stick with the 5 contingents lol

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 18 2008 07:50 GMT

#394

I agree with the confirming roles to Mayor part once he's found innocent, and after the Mayor the Pardoner should be investigated also asap.

What I meant by splitting work is that once the town has 2 or 3 targets for lynching the people caught in voting patterns (or "unvoting") patterns should be examined asap instead of the suspects because the Town will, and should continue to hone in on them.

ahrara_

Afghanistan1715 Posts

March 18 2008 07:52 GMT

#395

From there a team can be developed, people with roles should PM the mayor, and he sends detectives to investigate them to be sure. Only mafia would fake roles, so investigating them serves as hard proof of their legit role, or will reveal a mafia faking a role.

Ghar, your plan is seriously flawed. I don't think you've thought this through, which is why I'm going to encourage people not to vote for you. If there was a contest over best election poster however, you'd win by a landslide.

There are four detectives. They can use their role finding abilities twice in the game, and once a day. However, noone knows who the detectives are. A mafia mayor could have a fellow mobster, even two, pretend to be detectives and report that you're the mayor. You could have the detectives detect the detectives, but that'd cause the same problem, and the real detectives would be using their abilities in vain. So it's not that easy, but at least it's better than what FS did.

edit:

For chrissake, if you're going to run for mayor, do more than a half-assed job. Can't be worse than fakesteve doesn't cut it.

araav

Armenia1590 Posts

March 18 2008 07:53 GMT

#396

On March 18 2008 16:36 SonuvBob wrote:

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Ok, I voted for araav, as promised.

You should still vote for me though.

In addition to not being a douche, I can read edits. How cool is that?!

That's a wrong approach, Bobbie. If you vote me, you should encourege everybody voting for you to vote for me too.

Now, whoever votes for Sonuv, how good is that your leader has another boss?!

Everybody vote for araav, he's you clever leader

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 18 2008 07:55 GMT

#397

On March 18 2008 16:52 ahrara_ wrote:

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I'm sure you didn't read his entire post, because the strategy makes a lot of sense EVEN when the Mayor is Mafia because it forces the Mayor to do some work that benefits the Town.

Ghar

Australia62 Posts

March 18 2008 08:01 GMT

#398

Ok, Ghar will give the self plugging stuff a go too.

My campaign title. Ghar- The man with the plan.

1. I'm on the forum when I have free time. Being on more or less won't win the game, so screw
that.

2. analyze clues. Anyone can do that. I plan to do things that only a mayor could do, and that is
co-ordinate a counter attack on the mafia, taking advantage of being invulnerable from mafia hits
so long as my bodyguards are alive.

3. Everyone's dodging the possibility of being mafia if elected. My answer to that, you can't be sure
of anyone. I'm offering to put myself up for detective scrutiny, and be lynched if I am mafia after I
got the job. Not an ideal solution, but it's not like you could get a better deal. I can prove I am
not mafia after I get the job when detectives can do their thing.

4. I reckon Fakesteve is an alright bloke, so I won't spit on his name. And it has no bearings on
winning.

5. I won't jump to inane possibilities about clues right now because that's the detective's job.
Having all the sigs and stuff available is irrelevant at this point. Co-ordinating are resources is
better.

With that said. Ghar for mayor I expect to be mafia hit/lynched very quickly if I don't get the job. But this is my all for broke strategy to get into the thick of things.

aZnvaLiaNce

United States942 Posts

March 18 2008 08:02 GMT

#399

See, all this business behind what strategy is best for the future mayor is all based on the honor code and who's being honest. Seriously, I think it's best to put the strategy behind us until the first day/night cycle is done just to see how the important roles act/react to events happening, in particular the mayor.

SonuvBob

Aiur21549 Posts

March 18 2008 08:03 GMT

#400

On March 18 2008 16:53 araav wrote:

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I'm an admin, like Steve. :p

Except I'll be less of a douche! That's the SonuvBob Promise™!

1. I'll be less of a douche than FakeSteve was!
2. I can read edits!
3. I can use HTML. Let's see those mafia scum fight that!
4. Four!

Vote for me! http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=68177

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