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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On May 22 2015 22:54 Tictock wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote: Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card? If this was in response to me, I was asking about Bill Murray. I just posed my thoughts on boxerfred (who I've been abbreviating BF, fyi). Nope, this wasn't my response to your BM question. Will reread him shortly. Actually got something to do at work, so that might take a moment. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
On May 22 2015 22:45 Tictock wrote: Ok BF, I'm more sold that you are just new now. I have the opposite view actually. Before you started pressuring him, I was sure he was a newbie. Now that you made him post more I'm not so sure ... I will quote everytime he said he was newb or something like that in his filter. Everything in the spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 19:17 boxerfred wrote: I have no idea who I should vote for :/ On May 22 2015 19:32 boxerfred wrote: Barakos going the coach way :D I was just starting to ask my coach about that. [...] On May 22 2015 22:23 boxerfred wrote: "WIFOM"? [...] Reading about "trying to pocket", [...] On May 22 2015 22:27 boxerfred wrote: [...] Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context. That's 5 times for 13 posts. | ||
Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On May 22 2015 22:57 disformation wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:54 Tictock wrote: On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote: Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card? If this was in response to me, I was asking about Bill Murray. I just posed my thoughts on boxerfred (who I've been abbreviating BF, fyi). Nope, this wasn't my response to your BM question. Will reread him shortly. Actually got something to do at work, so that might take a moment. Ok, that bit at the end just felt out of place, wasn't sure if you were just typing what you were thinking or trying to respond. I'm gunna be around all day more or less. Going to save my deeper reading and efforts for a bit later on. Till then | ||
Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:00 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:45 Tictock wrote: Ok BF, I'm more sold that you are just new now. I have the opposite view actually. Before you started pressuring him, I was sure he was a newbie. Now that you made him post more I'm not so sure ... I will quote everytime he said he was newb or something like that in his filter. Everything in the spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 19:17 boxerfred wrote: I have no idea who I should vote for :/ On May 22 2015 19:32 boxerfred wrote: Barakos going the coach way :D I was just starting to ask my coach about that. [...] On May 22 2015 22:23 boxerfred wrote: "WIFOM"? [...] Reading about "trying to pocket", [...] On May 22 2015 22:27 boxerfred wrote: [...] Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context. That's 5 times for 13 posts. Good we have 2 sets of eyes on him then. I'm not totally letting him off the hook, but I'm buying the newbie sense I'm getting here. Idk it feels genuine to me. | ||
plotspot
800 Posts
On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote: ##vote:27ninjabunnies the problem is it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool Are we going to mislynch me again on day 1 BM? Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia? I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on. Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote: Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide. However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today. I see a bus in the midst. Also, I'm back. Work sucked ass. Worked a double today, only made 45$ the entire day. Server life man. I expected more posting than this, and am highly disappointed. Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far? (p10,last post) concerning last question: I think a lot of smoke bombs have been thrown out. Mafia most likely has already poked in to test the waters. Some 5-corner logics about knowing or not knowing whether "scum quick topic" has been opened prior the 24 h of silent prelude. | ||
27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote: Ah cool, you are here bunnies. Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, so let's look at this post. First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you. Noted. Could be an attempt to please me, so I stop pushing you. Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town". Troll post=troll vote. Yup. That is why I called it NAI. Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later. Looking forward to see that. Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town. So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment. I really like this answer. Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card? So for me, it was weird how he entered into the thread. I don't like to use entrances as alignment indicative but I just don't understand why he would enter with this post here: On May 22 2015 17:30 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote: ##vote:27ninjabunnies the problem is it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool While I understand that, I always thought yolo'ing votes on the first day is a stupid thing to do :/ It's as if he is trying to enter the thread in a funny way, but falled short. On May 22 2015 17:32 boxerfred wrote: That'd be sick luck if you actually got a scum guy pinned down with that vote notice the pun d'oh Again, random funny-ish second post. IT was mostly just these two posts that stood out to me as I was reading. As you further progress in his filter, he actually starts making reads, questioning, but Im not sure what to make of it. He pushes a bit on BM, but then unvotes after a case made by Dis on me. I'm not sure how this one case changes his read from BM is mafia to I am mafia over BM. HE doesn't really explain it. Just unvotes, and then says he'll read the case on me later. This makes me think there is a HIGH connection between Dis and BF, which makes me want to lynch them both. And makes me think I might be wrong on Dis.... | ||
Barakos
Germany358 Posts
Might have been an ok-ish read at the time, he wrote his answer. He just hasn't done anything since and the evidence he posted also doesn't hold up (see disformations post on bms accusations towards him). Speaking of disformation: Why do you disagree with my push on him? Granted: His case on you looks better than anything he did before but still i get the feeling, that his mindset is more focussed on looking towny than doing actual town-work. | ||
Barakos
Germany358 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:05 Barakos wrote: Okay... i can see, where you are coming from with that townread on sulfurus... Might have been an ok-ish read at the time, he wrote his answer. He just hasn't done anything since and the evidence he posted also doesn't hold up (see disformations post on bms accusations towards him). Speaking of disformation: Why do you disagree with my push on him? Granted: His case on you looks better than anything he did before but still i get the feeling, that his mindset is more focussed on looking towny than doing actual town-work. I just thought he was town for what he has been posting and questioning. Though, I am reconsidering on this. If you see my above post. Idk, that's just super weird. | ||
boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:00 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:45 Tictock wrote: Ok BF, I'm more sold that you are just new now. I have the opposite view actually. Before you started pressuring him, I was sure he was a newbie. Now that you made him post more I'm not so sure ... I will quote everytime he said he was newb or something like that in his filter. Everything in the spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 19:17 boxerfred wrote: I have no idea who I should vote for :/ On May 22 2015 19:32 boxerfred wrote: Barakos going the coach way :D I was just starting to ask my coach about that. [...] On May 22 2015 22:23 boxerfred wrote: "WIFOM"? [...] Reading about "trying to pocket", [...] On May 22 2015 22:27 boxerfred wrote: [...] Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context. That's 5 times for 13 posts. I even said pre-game that I am somewhat used to mafia games, just not the TL forum version, so you're not finding any secrets there. | ||
Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:10 27ninjabunnies wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 23:05 Barakos wrote: Okay... i can see, where you are coming from with that townread on sulfurus... Might have been an ok-ish read at the time, he wrote his answer. He just hasn't done anything since and the evidence he posted also doesn't hold up (see disformations post on bms accusations towards him). Speaking of disformation: Why do you disagree with my push on him? Granted: His case on you looks better than anything he did before but still i get the feeling, that his mindset is more focussed on looking towny than doing actual town-work. I just thought he was town for what he has been posting and questioning. Though, I am reconsidering on this. If you see my above post. Idk, that's just super weird. So your read on him changed on a connection you think you saw between him and boxerfred and since you suspect boxer, you now also suspect him, too? | ||
27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:15 Barakos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 23:10 27ninjabunnies wrote: On May 22 2015 23:05 Barakos wrote: Okay... i can see, where you are coming from with that townread on sulfurus... Might have been an ok-ish read at the time, he wrote his answer. He just hasn't done anything since and the evidence he posted also doesn't hold up (see disformations post on bms accusations towards him). Speaking of disformation: Why do you disagree with my push on him? Granted: His case on you looks better than anything he did before but still i get the feeling, that his mindset is more focussed on looking towny than doing actual town-work. I just thought he was town for what he has been posting and questioning. Though, I am reconsidering on this. If you see my above post. Idk, that's just super weird. So your read on him changed on a connection you think you saw between him and boxerfred and since you suspect boxer, you now also suspect him, too? My read hasn't changed. I'm reconsidering. Still think he is town. I don't necessarily understand your push on him, something I have to reread. I do want to see BF's response to why he suddenly switch his vote. So the way I'm looking at it in my head is this: BF as newb mafia votes on BM just to be voting on someone...tlaks a bit, doesnt really push on BM, then mafia partner comes out with a case on me (town), and BF is like, ooo this looks good. Lets unvote, and go with mafia partner here. Im a video mafia player. I try and see connections between people because we don't do flips. And i see a connection there. | ||
plotspot
800 Posts
On May 22 2015 12:26 Tictock wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 12:20 Bill Murray wrote: ##vote: plotspot. I don't like when people try to slip into the night phase for free off excuses . There are like no posts in this slow game he could easily have caught up. Policy lynch here is better than anything we have to go on. Something I can totally agree on. I'm close to heading to bed. I'm going to do some rereading while considering some of the points made here but unless I find something better to go on I'll join this vote for now. Breshke got it right though. I was playing some video game for too long and it was already 4:49, so I decided I just post some sort of notice of action/activity. Is it better than not post something at all? It depends on the people obviously, reading up to here (p13/first post) you and BM thought it suspicious. If I didn't do anything, then other people would find it suspicious for other reasons. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:04 27ninjabunnies wrote: This makes me think there is a HIGH connection between Dis and BF, which makes me want to lynch them both. And makes me think I might be wrong on Dis.... I agree with you entirely about BF. But I have a very hard time following you on the links between Dis and BF. The events are: 1 - BF votes BM 2 - Dis makes a case on you 3 - BF unvotes without even reading the case Now I agree that put a bad light on BF, but I don't see why that links it to Dis. Dis could be scum, or not. That is WIFOM to speculate if that is the case here. IMO. | ||
Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:18 27ninjabunnies wrote: My read hasn't changed. I'm reconsidering. Still think he is town. I don't necessarily understand your push on him, something I have to reread. I do want to see BF's response to why he suddenly switch his vote. So the way I'm looking at it in my head is this: BF as newb mafia votes on BM just to be voting on someone...tlaks a bit, doesnt really push on BM, then mafia partner comes out with a case on me (town), and BF is like, ooo this looks good. Lets unvote, and go with mafia partner here. Im a video mafia player. I try and see connections between people because we don't do flips. And i see a connection there. ok - fair enough... if you got any questions about my case - fire away. I'll be on my way home from work now and be available again in about 30m | ||
boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:18 27ninjabunnies wrote: [...] I do want to see BF's response to why he suddenly switch his vote. So the way I'm looking at it in my head is this: BF as newb mafia votes on BM just to be voting on someone...tlaks a bit, doesnt really push on BM, then mafia partner comes out with a case on me (town), and BF is like, ooo this looks good. Lets unvote, and go with mafia partner here. [...] On May 22 2015 22:27 boxerfred wrote: I just read this but, as said above, gotta continue working. I'll ##unvote and read about this later. Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context. I think that it's pretty clear that I unvoted BM because disinformation's points appeared way stronger to me than my own thoughts about BM. I did not instavote on you although you imply that in my words - I simply unvoted to, as I said, rethink my vote. Your argument of me jumping disinformation's "blametrain" on your person is simply untrue. Why are you pressuring me? | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
On May 22 2015 23:13 boxerfred wrote: I even said pre-game that I am somewhat used to mafia games, just not the TL forum version, so you're not finding any secrets there. There are other things: First, you make a few posts that don't help. They are just noise. Example: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 19:10 boxerfred wrote: I meant timezone, not schedule. Day one votes suck there's like no indication about anything. Since I still have to cast my vote though I'll re-read the posts and see if I can find something indicating something. Thus far, I can't tell the difference from someone being trolling and someone casting a vote in a serious manner. On May 22 2015 19:38 boxerfred wrote: Hmm.. lots of indicators, nothing too special. Then again we have Rels, discussing quite actively about who to set up for a lynch - to me, that indicates that he's townie since he's being rational and trying to argue in a very rational way. That could mean that Rels and Sulfurus are the two masons, further strengthening that BM might be scum. Assumptions, assumptions.. On May 22 2015 19:44 boxerfred wrote: However, there are still the silent people in here. That's like the worst strategy ever in terms of "making gameplay exciting". The swarmhost/turtle of Mafia :D Second, this: On May 22 2015 22:27 boxerfred wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:22 disformation wrote: Okay. bunnies time. On May 22 2015 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote: EBWOP: Scum #Vote: Sicklucker Starts with randomly voting sicklucker. kay. Pretty NAI imo. On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote: Oh yeah and SL is mafia ##Vote Sicklucker Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia? I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on. Agrees with Breshke. Not seeing why. Apparently even Bunnies was not sure why they are agreeing. Not being sure about the dumbtell is a sign of not reading properly. Which I don't like either. On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote: Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide. However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today. I see a bus in the midst. From the same post as last quote. First agrees with Breshke and then is like "nah, let us lynch you". Because "I see a bus"? On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far? I like this question. But it is a really general question. Not sure if it would be hard for mafia to ask stuff like this. On May 22 2015 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: Give me substance BM! I know you can do it! I agree, but again this is a question Mafia could also have asked easily. On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote: Sulfurus top town newbie read. Not lynching for entire game. Or maybe atleast 2 days Then this. Can't see how Sulfurus can be seen as more townie than ticktoc of that one post... that had a strange thing in it (the accusation thing I explained earlier)? Pocket attempt? Was the question a setup for Sulfurus they agreed on in their QT? Me no like. On May 22 2015 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: On May 22 2015 12:43 Breshke wrote: On May 22 2015 12:30 sicklucker wrote: Plots one post was so null it hurts I agree What do you think about bunnies saying she didn't know what reasons I was pushing you for but then going on to say that she would lunch both of us because she thought it could be a bus before I clarified the reason This is a great question! + Show Spoiler + And you fell right into my reaction trap. Breshke, what do YOU think of this?+ Show Spoiler + When asked about stuff that I also pointed out the reaction is total deflection and trying to laugh it of. Me no like. In my book bunnies is not looking good at all. Totally leaning scum. I need to look at a few other ppl, but I guess I am willing to vote on bunnies as of now. I just read this but, as said above, gotta continue working. I'll ##unvote and read about this later. Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context. You have time to defend yourself, but you don't have time to comment on the post you said you were going to comment. And finally, 27nb's post about you. + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 23:04 27ninjabunnies wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote: Ah cool, you are here bunnies. On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, so let's look at this post. First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you. Noted. Could be an attempt to please me, so I stop pushing you. On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town". Troll post=troll vote. Yup. That is why I called it NAI. On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later. Looking forward to see that. On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town. So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment. I really like this answer. Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card? So for me, it was weird how he entered into the thread. I don't like to use entrances as alignment indicative but I just don't understand why he would enter with this post here: Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 17:30 boxerfred wrote: On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote: ##vote:27ninjabunnies the problem is it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool While I understand that, I always thought yolo'ing votes on the first day is a stupid thing to do :/ It's as if he is trying to enter the thread in a funny way, but falled short. Show nested quote + On May 22 2015 17:32 boxerfred wrote: On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote: Oh yeah and SL is mafia ##Vote Sicklucker That'd be sick luck if you actually got a scum guy pinned down with that vote notice the pun d'oh Again, random funny-ish second post. IT was mostly just these two posts that stood out to me as I was reading. As you further progress in his filter, he actually starts making reads, questioning, but Im not sure what to make of it. He pushes a bit on BM, but then unvotes after a case made by Dis on me. I'm not sure how this one case changes his read from BM is mafia to I am mafia over BM. HE doesn't really explain it. Just unvotes, and then says he'll read the case on me later. This makes me think there is a HIGH connection between Dis and BF, which makes me want to lynch them both. And makes me think I might be wrong on Dis.... | ||
disformation
Germany8352 Posts
First glance at the interaction between ticktoc and BM I got the feeling that BM was just trolling around trying to provoke a reaction from ticktoc, which he got. Otherwise a bit spamy, but I can see towny posts here and there. Will read more carefully when I am back at home. But I still want to see some more action from him today. @plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia? @Sulfurus: Did your reads on Breshke change? Who would be your #2 lynch after Breshke, if he is still your top scum? | ||
plotspot
800 Posts
no biggie voting for me, i consider it a success if I make it out alive in D1, there must be something about my posting style that rubs people off or makes me suspicious, I'm working on it. But SL and Breshke were dead right on their interpretation of my first post... Last game I played there was this guy called Bourneq who also interpret so much in every little thing I did, but he ended up interpreting it wrong, so what's the meaning? How do I have faith in people, although they are active like you are and investigating, but keep reading certain things wrong? Even if you're town, I may not be liable to trust your scum readings... Last games there I played there was this guy called Trfel, he was town, he was also very active and willing, but he ended up confusing the hell out of everyone by tunneling and sorts, so mafia had an easy game. For me this showed that activity isn't the key (sometimes it's even detrimental to town), but the ability of people to read correctly. Does anyone want to ask me something? | ||
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