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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:22 Blazinghand wrote: Hmm, so in terms of lurkers, I think batsnacks is a good shot. I think for example calling me, Trfel, and BM all town right out the gate for this reason http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24244396 doesn't really ehelp you find scum (even though he's probably right) so not sure why he'd do it. His weird filter statement and his odd reason for scumreading Sandro all stand out to me. When I thought Sandro was scum, it didn't bother me, but now that I think Sandro is town (mostly for the fact that he decided to actually do some research) I feel like bats is just pulling our leg with the blue softclaim. I think if he were a real blue he'd fabricate a case on Sandro rather than saying "sandro is scum, I habe a blue role that says so". Heck, if his blue role really says Sandro is scum, why isn't batsnacks pushing? why the vote and afk? batsnacks is scum deep insightful yes. | ||
justanothertownie
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:17 Damdred wrote: Here's the question, do we give xata more,time to prove he's town if he is? I think,if he's highly busy as he claimed sooner or later we can,catch him big,him or cop,check him if we want. He's scummy at this point but his,final,post seemed kinda genuine to a degree to me. We then have BH who is kinda meh and vivax who the wagon evaporated like td and GB have said. It is concerning I'm sorta tempted to give xata a little more time and lynch vivax or bh today. I'll be mostly free during Thursday-Sunday (tomorrow still a bit of stuff to go through). It'd really be pretty annoying to get lynched like this after being AFK for the majority of the day and mostly for reasons that happened when I very quickly read the thread earlier on. I'm already way past the time I was supposed to go to sleep today.... Can hardly stay awake. What's the vote situation like now... I'd be perfectly fine with lynching Vivax instead of BH.... | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Vote Count: Vivax (4) -, TalkingDead,, Yamato77, Trfel, GlowingBear, Xatalos (6) - Damdred, Oatsmaster, Half The Sky, Vivax, KelsierSC, LightingSTrike Rsoultin (1) - Onegu Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend Sandroba (3) - Palmar, Batsnacks, BlazingHand Oatsmaster (2) -GlowingBear BlazingHand (7) - Marvellosity, Rso, Sandro, Yam, Jat, OWS, XAT I'm glad you agree! | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:24 justanothertownie wrote: Vivax kinda going back to doing nothing as soon as his wagon disappeared doesn't sit well with me though. it shouldn't sit well with you, but all you'll do is mention it, not actually lynch vivax | ||
TalkingDead
102 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote: Then go and find the people who went off me in a scummy way, cause as I see it there's nothing inherently scummy in not wanting to lynch me. There's not time for that and it doesn't matter this late in the day. It is in no way about trying to find "the scum that unvoted their partners." It doesn't make you scum and it doesn't make Xatalos town. It's the asymmetrical shift that's interesting, both in the sense that people are more willing to move off you and that people are less willing to move off of him. What is interesting about your response is that you've ignored my point about Imperial entirely to pick at the corners of the point I'm trying to make. | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Vote Count: Vivax (5) - LightningStrike, TalkingDead, Trfel, GlowingBear, BlazingHand Xatalos (6) - Damdred, Oatsmaster, Half The Sky, Vivax, KelsierSC, LightningStrike Rsoultin (1) - Onegu Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks Oatsmaster (1) - GlowingBear BlazingHand (7) - Marvellosity, rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, Justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi, Xatalos until lynch! BlazingHand is set to be lynched! | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:26 TalkingDead wrote: There's not time for that and it doesn't matter this late in the day. It is in no way about trying to find "the scum that unvoted their partners." It doesn't make you scum and it doesn't make Xatalos town. It's the asymmetrical shift that's interesting, both in the sense that people are more willing to move off you and that people are less willing to move off of him. What is interesting about your response is that you've ignored my point about Imperial entirely to pick at the corners of the point I'm trying to make. I think we all kinda know what's going on here. A lot of people moved off of Vivax as soon as there was a lynchbaity wagon (my wagon) to move onto. Wagons that fall apart easily like this in non-PM games tend to be wagons on scum. I think Vivax would be an acceptable D1 lynch, but I actually haven't read his filter or his case. I'm basing this entirely on the fact that Vivax is a really good town player with heroic tier reads and pushing ability, and I haven't passively just NOTICED that he's playing well, which is what I'd expect from him | ||
Vivax
21686 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:26 TalkingDead wrote: There's not time for that and it doesn't matter this late in the day. It is in no way about trying to find "the scum that unvoted their partners." It doesn't make you scum and it doesn't make Xatalos town. It's the asymmetrical shift that's interesting, both in the sense that people are more willing to move off you and that people are less willing to move off of him. What is interesting about your response is that you've ignored my point about Imperial entirely to pick at the corners of the point I'm trying to make. Point in Imperial didn't seem important to me as you only mentioned that people recognized I was town when on a posting spree? It's not that much of a poting spree here, I've conveyed my points, Xata could easily be lynched, and I already decided I won't fight as hard as usual to not get lynched if it comes to that. I'll vote to save myself cause wincon but I claimed my role and will be afk a while after so it wouldn't particularly rustle my jimmies if I died. | ||
TalkingDead
102 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: I think we all kinda know what's going on here. A lot of people moved off of Vivax as soon as there was a lynchbaity wagon (my wagon) to move onto. Wagons that fall apart easily like this in non-PM games tend to be wagons on scum. I think Vivax would be an acceptable D1 lynch, but I actually haven't read his filter or his case. I'm basing this entirely on the fact that Vivax is a really good town player with heroic tier reads and pushing ability, and I haven't passively just NOTICED that he's playing well, which is what I'd expect from him So Xatalos isn't lynch bait? You're lynch bait? | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/431052-hogwarts-mafia?user=Blazinghand for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:29 TalkingDead wrote: So Xatalos isn't lynch bait? You're lynch bait? I'm obvious lynch bait. Look, JAT and Rsoultin have personal animus against me, so they're always gonna vote me (no matter what they say about cases or what not). As I said before the game, I'm not available during the first 24 hours of D1, and people didn't see the beauty of the work I did based on N0. Although I used my powers to good effect during the first half of today, Bill murray was pardoned then shot so we don't get a flip, and the people I've saved for some reason have rationalized that I'd do this as mafia (ಠ_ಠ) so here I am. Everyone knows I have shit D1s as town where It ypically claim Blue, then N1/D2 I ramp up. People have different opinions on how skilled I am, but we all know that's how I play. I actually used my abilities REALLY well when I REALLY wouldn't have to do that as scum. And sure, I was legit straight up sheeping Palmar, but when Sandro did the townie thing I unvoted him because I'm actually trying to solve the game. Am I a snarky asshole about it? sure, yeah, that's me. But I'm going over my post limit and risking getting modkilled and banned because winning is more important to me than anything else. If I get lynched this game, I will fight, and I will fight hard enough that afterwards you will ALL look like MORONS for lynching me and in the post game, I will call you bad. and you will deserve it. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/434275-tl-mafia-lxiii-time-to-die?user=Blazinghand&view=all http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/431052-hogwarts-mafia?user=Blazinghand for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads "blazinghand is scum cause he's inactive and not giving reads. blazinghand, if you die, it's your fault" *I start giving reads and playing* "blazinghand as scum can be active and give reads you guys" ##unvote ##vote yamato77 | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:32 Blazinghand wrote: I'm obvious lynch bait. Look, JAT and Rsoultin have personal animus against me, so they're always gonna vote me (no matter what they say about cases or what not). As I said before the game, I'm not available during the first 24 hours of D1, and people didn't see the beauty of the work I did based on N0. Although I used my powers to good effect during the first half of today, Bill murray was pardoned then shot so we don't get a flip, and the people I've saved for some reason have rationalized that I'd do this as mafia (ಠ_ಠ) so here I am. Everyone knows I have shit D1s as town where It ypically claim Blue, then N1/D2 I ramp up. People have different opinions on how skilled I am, but we all know that's how I play. I actually used my abilities REALLY well when I REALLY wouldn't have to do that as scum. And sure, I was legit straight up sheeping Palmar, but when Sandro did the townie thing I unvoted him because I'm actually trying to solve the game. Am I a snarky asshole about it? sure, yeah, that's me. But I'm going over my post limit and risking getting modkilled and banned because winning is more important to me than anything else. If I get lynched this game, I will fight, and I will fight hard enough that afterwards you will ALL look like MORONS for lynching me and in the post game, I will call you bad. and you will deserve it. your strongest scumread is batsnacks srsly | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
it seems like bh is posting better than vivax at least | ||
Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
I will lynch Vivax or Xatalos over Blazinghand. JAT (or OWS), I know you made the point about him hiding behind his role as scum. He did it as town too. (Titantic 7, even after being modconfirmed) He was however given ample opportunity to get some reads. I've looked over both Vivax/Xata's filters and honestly they just somehow manage to keep looking worse. Vivax especially. I even paralleled Vivax' most recent game in GoT to this game and there are glaring tells (it's in my filter my response to Trfel). Xata, I'll be frank, I'm looking at your filter and I don't see an improvement in the reads. To be fair though EoD in another game I can't talk about may have compromised this just now. Those of you wanting to vote Vivax, I'd be happy to hammer Vivax. We need 2 more plus myself. I am still scumreading BH (reviewing Marv's case again) but I want Vivax or Xatalos lynched. 100%. With fire, end of. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On May 13 2015 08:33 Blazinghand wrote: "blazinghand is scum cause he's inactive and not giving reads. blazinghand, if you die, it's your fault" *I start giving reads and playing* "blazinghand as scum can be active and give reads you guys" ##unvote ##vote yamato77 yeah but your reads suck you just realized sandro was town LOL just LOL | ||
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