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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:12 GMT
#1381
On May 13 2015 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
I defended your sorry ass last game as mafia

with so many other options, why would I mislynch you over the other scummy fucks in this game, a number of which are likely to be town and also resist less?


given that part of the case on me is literally "blazinghand isn't putting up much resistance, which he usually does as town" (a statement that is, of course, once again people not understanding my meta because people is bad) your quesiton is invalid

plus you're changing things up
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:12 GMT
#1382
On May 13 2015 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:43 sandroba wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I found yam suspicious for defending me ibn noir. I was town he was scum

More bad meta. Literally every game, the bad meta. Lynch the meta liars first

I suspect you are talking about noir 3. Did a quick skim of the game and you did no such thing.


Read obs qt or ask yam. I was lynched and immediately cashed yam scum

Sandro town now btw

##unvote
##vote xat

I must live


Why Xatalos instead of Vivax?


Xat has more votes. I'll vote whoever has the most votes and isn't me

you literally do this as non-town 100% of the time


[citation needed]
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:12 GMT
#1383
On May 13 2015 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:09 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:08 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:06 Blazinghand wrote:
bah, this is why I should just RNG, so I don't have to deal with garbage like this D1. back to RNG starting next game

maybe you should have, you know, played the fucking game

instead of just blindly using your role thinking it made you town


Yamato is definitely scum for this post, btw, for knowing I'm flipping town, and posting this, and voting me.

you're adorable

no denial, no backtrack, because he can't; all he can do is joke and try to draw attention away from it.

nothing I said implied that I knew you were town

if you're upset about being lynched, as any alignment, it's your own fault
Writer@WriterYamato
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2015 23:13 GMT
#1384
On May 13 2015 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:43 sandroba wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I found yam suspicious for defending me ibn noir. I was town he was scum

More bad meta. Literally every game, the bad meta. Lynch the meta liars first

I suspect you are talking about noir 3. Did a quick skim of the game and you did no such thing.


Read obs qt or ask yam. I was lynched and immediately cashed yam scum

Sandro town now btw

##unvote
##vote xat

I must live


Why Xatalos instead of Vivax?


Xat has more votes. I'll vote whoever has the most votes and isn't me

you literally do this as non-town 100% of the time

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't he do this if his head were on the block as both alignments?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 12 2015 23:13 GMT
#1385
I don't really know what to do anymore

marv made a case on bh, i like marv but i don't really want to lynch BH, because I think he's town and he did save marv from the nuke. yamato

i don't like xat and neither does damdred

trfel made a good post on vivax, my town read on him is just a feeling and yeh trfel's post is really good.

I don't know its d1, I think i want to see a vote count and then make a choice.
I wish palmar was here.
Zerg for Life
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:13 GMT
#1386
On May 13 2015 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:09 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:08 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:06 Blazinghand wrote:
bah, this is why I should just RNG, so I don't have to deal with garbage like this D1. back to RNG starting next game

maybe you should have, you know, played the fucking game

instead of just blindly using your role thinking it made you town


Yamato is definitely scum for this post, btw, for knowing I'm flipping town, and posting this, and voting me.

you're adorable

no denial, no backtrack, because he can't; all he can do is joke and try to draw attention away from it.

nothing I said implied that I knew you were town

if you're upset about being lynched, as any alignment, it's your own fault


mmmhmmm sure backtrack all you want

also:

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When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:13 GMT
#1387
On May 13 2015 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
I defended your sorry ass last game as mafia

with so many other options, why would I mislynch you over the other scummy fucks in this game, a number of which are likely to be town and also resist less?


given that part of the case on me is literally "blazinghand isn't putting up much resistance, which he usually does as town" (a statement that is, of course, once again people not understanding my meta because people is bad) your quesiton is invalid

plus you're changing things up

it's not part of my case on you
Writer@WriterYamato
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 12 2015 23:14 GMT
#1388
On May 13 2015 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
I defended your sorry ass last game as mafia

with so many other options, why would I mislynch you over the other scummy fucks in this game, a number of which are likely to be town and also resist less?


given that part of the case on me is literally "blazinghand isn't putting up much resistance, which he usually does as town" (a statement that is, of course, once again people not understanding my meta because people is bad) your quesiton is invalid

plus you're changing things up


On May 13 2015 05:29 marvellosity wrote:
BH could be mafia after all, because he's joined what is a pretty terrible sandroba wagon when what I posted should at least be enough for sandroba not to be lynched today. I don't understand how he can on one hand shoot down a nuke headed for me and then on the other hand completely ignore my fleshed out opinion on sandroba. I said earlier that I wasn't going to lynch someone who shot a nuke coming down on me, but the arguments about his lack of scumreads ---> sheeping this case on sandroba made my read do an about turn

I was leaning town on Palmar as well, but I also don't understand how he can ask me a question about sandroba, get a fuller response than I normally bother to give (apparently i like talking about good players or something) and then say "well, marv said all that but my points still stand herp derp"

There are also too many outlier votes right now.

I dislike Xata a little less than before, but would lynch in a pinch. Still finding it very difficult to believe that Vivax plays like this as town

##unvote
##Vote: BlazingHand


I don't believe BH "buys" Palmar's case. I think Palmar's case on sandroba is at best misguided tunnelly town and BH has been around long enough (and played with sand enough) to be able to at least grapple with this


On May 13 2015 05:50 marvellosity wrote:
There are 2 lynches that I just introduced where I find it hard to say "the townie motivation is kinda likely". Vivax's play is just SO far off his townplay, it's very very difficult to handwave away.

BlazingHand saving me, and jumping on a weak case on sandroba while not entertaining the counterarguments is also very very difficult to handwave away with a town motivation.

Note: I'm not trying to say Onegu is definitely town here, he may or may not be, but I think lynching him on conjecture is not the right play when we can lynch people with far clearer differentiations


On May 13 2015 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
BlazingHand made a lolreply (more scumpoints from Palmar for me \o/) to Obi where he altered his quote to try to say "well i do this as town as WELL as mafia". The thing was, in... er... Aperture, kita made quite a good meta case about how scumBH doesn't actually do anything where town-BH is strung into action. And that's what's happening here.

The thing with BH is that he's very obviously selectively reading the thread, and disregarding the stuff that he doesn't like.
So it goes

1.Palmar case on sandroba
2.sometime later marv makes a sandroba defence
3.BH sheeps 1, disregards 2

Then I also made my case on BH based on this, but BH ignores it completely and later only responds to my post where I lumped him (or something) in with Vivax, and saying he's not like Vivax. but it totally disregards what i said in the first place. So that's 2 strikes.

I literally cannot reconcile, at all, how he keeps saying we should sheep this Palmar case d1 when it was a really bad case.

Even earlier in the thread he made some post about "Palmar and marv being the only ones possibly more skilled than me" yet it seems like he's totally ignoring me for convenience.

Which part of the case on you includes you putting up resistence?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:16 GMT
#1389
I'd actually expect you to fight as either alignment tbh

just as town you'd have fucking real reads
Writer@WriterYamato
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:16 GMT
#1390
On May 13 2015 08:14 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
I defended your sorry ass last game as mafia

with so many other options, why would I mislynch you over the other scummy fucks in this game, a number of which are likely to be town and also resist less?


given that part of the case on me is literally "blazinghand isn't putting up much resistance, which he usually does as town" (a statement that is, of course, once again people not understanding my meta because people is bad) your quesiton is invalid

plus you're changing things up


Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 05:29 marvellosity wrote:
BH could be mafia after all, because he's joined what is a pretty terrible sandroba wagon when what I posted should at least be enough for sandroba not to be lynched today. I don't understand how he can on one hand shoot down a nuke headed for me and then on the other hand completely ignore my fleshed out opinion on sandroba. I said earlier that I wasn't going to lynch someone who shot a nuke coming down on me, but the arguments about his lack of scumreads ---> sheeping this case on sandroba made my read do an about turn

I was leaning town on Palmar as well, but I also don't understand how he can ask me a question about sandroba, get a fuller response than I normally bother to give (apparently i like talking about good players or something) and then say "well, marv said all that but my points still stand herp derp"

There are also too many outlier votes right now.

I dislike Xata a little less than before, but would lynch in a pinch. Still finding it very difficult to believe that Vivax plays like this as town

##unvote
##Vote: BlazingHand


I don't believe BH "buys" Palmar's case. I think Palmar's case on sandroba is at best misguided tunnelly town and BH has been around long enough (and played with sand enough) to be able to at least grapple with this


Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 05:50 marvellosity wrote:
There are 2 lynches that I just introduced where I find it hard to say "the townie motivation is kinda likely". Vivax's play is just SO far off his townplay, it's very very difficult to handwave away.

BlazingHand saving me, and jumping on a weak case on sandroba while not entertaining the counterarguments is also very very difficult to handwave away with a town motivation.

Note: I'm not trying to say Onegu is definitely town here, he may or may not be, but I think lynching him on conjecture is not the right play when we can lynch people with far clearer differentiations


Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
BlazingHand made a lolreply (more scumpoints from Palmar for me \o/) to Obi where he altered his quote to try to say "well i do this as town as WELL as mafia". The thing was, in... er... Aperture, kita made quite a good meta case about how scumBH doesn't actually do anything where town-BH is strung into action. And that's what's happening here.

The thing with BH is that he's very obviously selectively reading the thread, and disregarding the stuff that he doesn't like.
So it goes

1.Palmar case on sandroba
2.sometime later marv makes a sandroba defence
3.BH sheeps 1, disregards 2

Then I also made my case on BH based on this, but BH ignores it completely and later only responds to my post where I lumped him (or something) in with Vivax, and saying he's not like Vivax. but it totally disregards what i said in the first place. So that's 2 strikes.

I literally cannot reconcile, at all, how he keeps saying we should sheep this Palmar case d1 when it was a really bad case.

Even earlier in the thread he made some post about "Palmar and marv being the only ones possibly more skilled than me" yet it seems like he's totally ignoring me for convenience.

Which part of the case on you includes you putting up resistence?


someone was like "blazinghand needs to be prodded into playing as town, and if you vote him he starts doing stuff, and he's not doing that this game"

I don't know who said it, but someone did, and it is of course literally false, like 95% of statements about my meta in this game. Jesus christ people
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 12 2015 23:16 GMT
#1391
Is it worth trying to get Vivax lynched instead of Blazinghand?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 12 2015 23:16 GMT
#1392
On May 13 2015 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:43 sandroba wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I found yam suspicious for defending me ibn noir. I was town he was scum

More bad meta. Literally every game, the bad meta. Lynch the meta liars first

I suspect you are talking about noir 3. Did a quick skim of the game and you did no such thing.


Read obs qt or ask yam. I was lynched and immediately cashed yam scum

Sandro town now btw

##unvote
##vote xat

I must live


Why Xatalos instead of Vivax?


Xat has more votes. I'll vote whoever has the most votes and isn't me


Vivax has the same amount of votes Xatalos has after I voted him.
Vote Vivax to save yourself and lynch scum

Yamato is only berating me, he says BH isn't scum for bad usage of his role but votes BH because of the usage of his role LOL YOU'RE HILARIOUS YAMATO
I'm adorable.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 12 2015 23:17 GMT
#1393
Here's the question, do we give xata more,time to prove he's town if he is?

I think,if he's highly busy as he claimed sooner or later we can,catch him big,him or cop,check him if we want.

He's scummy at this point but his,final,post seemed kinda genuine to a degree to me.

We then have BH who is kinda meh and vivax who the wagon evaporated like td and GB have said. It is concerning I'm sorta tempted to give xata a little more time and lynch vivax or bh today.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22041 Posts
May 12 2015 23:17 GMT
#1394
On May 13 2015 08:08 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 07:54 Trfel wrote:
I don't see what is so impressive about Vivax's posting as of late. His posts don't feel like they have any direction or focus, and he isn't elaborating on his main scumreads. He's pushing reads all over the place, but nothing is very well explained or detailed. Furthermore, Vivax is going to be away for a while, so there will be no more information with which to read him.

This is a good point. Leading up to the lynch, thread sentiment is steered roughly equally between Xatalos and Vivax. When Marv starts his push towards BH, votes still split roughly equally between Vivax and Xatalos. Despite Marv and Sandroba giving a less weight and push towards either Vivax or Xatalos and thinking they both may be a bit more likely to be town. Votes from the Vivax wagons disappear disproportionately faster. This can in part be attributed to Vivax being around and posting, but there were numerous people other than just Marv/Sandroba saying essentially that Vivax is posting better. Yet when you compare this situation to an exceptionally similar situation in Imperial, where Vivax went off the fucking deep end and was making series of huge posts repetitively. The wagon just disappeared in a strange way without any realisitic recognition of his posting. That's interesting.


Then go and find the people who went off me in a scummy way, cause as I see it there's nothing inherently scummy in not wanting to lynch me.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:17 GMT
#1395
On May 13 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote:
Is it worth trying to get Vivax lynched instead of Blazinghand?


Vivax is probably a better town player than I am in terms of catching scum. If you think we're both town and are deciding, for some reaosn, which townie to lynch, rather than trying to hung scum, you should lynch me.

I don't know why people think rsoultin is town btw
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:18 GMT
#1396
On May 13 2015 08:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:43 sandroba wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I found yam suspicious for defending me ibn noir. I was town he was scum

More bad meta. Literally every game, the bad meta. Lynch the meta liars first

I suspect you are talking about noir 3. Did a quick skim of the game and you did no such thing.


Read obs qt or ask yam. I was lynched and immediately cashed yam scum

Sandro town now btw

##unvote
##vote xat

I must live


Why Xatalos instead of Vivax?


Xat has more votes. I'll vote whoever has the most votes and isn't me


Vivax has the same amount of votes Xatalos has after I voted him.
Vote Vivax to save yourself and lynch scum

Yamato is only berating me, he says BH isn't scum for bad usage of his role but votes BH because of the usage of his role LOL YOU'RE HILARIOUS YAMATO

you literally aren't even reading

you are a policy shot, enjoy dying tonight
Writer@WriterYamato
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:19 GMT
#1397
yeah I'm not really sure why Vivax got derailed so I'm gonna vote him on principle. I'm like 900 posts over my limit for the day but I think if I keep talking I won't die, so fuck da police I'm gonna keep on posting

you guys wanna hear about my new sandro townread? cause it's pretty legit

##unvote
##vote vivax
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
May 12 2015 23:20 GMT
#1398
On May 13 2015 08:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:43 sandroba wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I found yam suspicious for defending me ibn noir. I was town he was scum

More bad meta. Literally every game, the bad meta. Lynch the meta liars first

I suspect you are talking about noir 3. Did a quick skim of the game and you did no such thing.


Read obs qt or ask yam. I was lynched and immediately cashed yam scum

Sandro town now btw

##unvote
##vote xat

I must live


Why Xatalos instead of Vivax?


Xat has more votes. I'll vote whoever has the most votes and isn't me


Vivax has the same amount of votes Xatalos has after I voted him.
Vote Vivax to save yourself and lynch scum

Yamato is only berating me, he says BH isn't scum for bad usage of his role but votes BH because of the usage of his role LOL YOU'RE HILARIOUS YAMATO

I don't think anyone is voting BH for the usage of his role. It is rather the fact that he did nothing else. His nonsensical sandro vote also didn't help.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 12 2015 23:20 GMT
#1399
is there an updated vote count?

I want to see where my reads are voting
Zerg for Life
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:21 GMT
#1400
On May 13 2015 08:17 Damdred wrote:
Here's the question, do we give xata more,time to prove he's town if he is?

I think,if he's highly busy as he claimed sooner or later we can,catch him big,him or cop,check him if we want.

He's scummy at this point but his,final,post seemed kinda genuine to a degree to me.

We then have BH who is kinda meh and vivax who the wagon evaporated like td and GB have said. It is concerning I'm sorta tempted to give xata a little more time and lynch vivax or bh today.

we should lynch BH

it's not even a question
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