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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 12 2015 23:35 GMT
#1421
Well I've read the BH case. I could see it but it doesn't feel as sure as Vivax at all to me. Kind of reminds me of when we mislynched him in Les Mis. Iirc he couldn't be assed there to defend himself, but he started contributing towards the future even though he was dead. I kind of get that vibe here and vivax doesn't give a shit. He's easily the better lynch imo.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:35 GMT
#1422
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 12 2015 23:35 GMT
#1423
what the fuck is this push on Blazinghand??
No gg, No skill.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#1424
On May 13 2015 08:35 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I've read the BH case. I could see it but it doesn't feel as sure as Vivax at all to me. Kind of reminds me of when we mislynched him in Les Mis. Iirc he couldn't be assed there to defend himself, but he started contributing towards the future even though he was dead. I kind of get that vibe here and vivax doesn't give a shit. He's easily the better lynch imo.

what is BH contributing for the future, exactly?

all I see is him devoting time and effort to arguing with me
Writer@WriterYamato
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
May 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#1425
On May 13 2015 08:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:29 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:26 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:08 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:54 Trfel wrote:
I don't see what is so impressive about Vivax's posting as of late. His posts don't feel like they have any direction or focus, and he isn't elaborating on his main scumreads. He's pushing reads all over the place, but nothing is very well explained or detailed. Furthermore, Vivax is going to be away for a while, so there will be no more information with which to read him.

This is a good point. Leading up to the lynch, thread sentiment is steered roughly equally between Xatalos and Vivax. When Marv starts his push towards BH, votes still split roughly equally between Vivax and Xatalos. Despite Marv and Sandroba giving a less weight and push towards either Vivax or Xatalos and thinking they both may be a bit more likely to be town. Votes from the Vivax wagons disappear disproportionately faster. This can in part be attributed to Vivax being around and posting, but there were numerous people other than just Marv/Sandroba saying essentially that Vivax is posting better. Yet when you compare this situation to an exceptionally similar situation in Imperial, where Vivax went off the fucking deep end and was making series of huge posts repetitively. The wagon just disappeared in a strange way without any realisitic recognition of his posting. That's interesting.


Then go and find the people who went off me in a scummy way, cause as I see it there's nothing inherently scummy in not wanting to lynch me.

There's not time for that and it doesn't matter this late in the day. It is in no way about trying to find "the scum that unvoted their partners." It doesn't make you scum and it doesn't make Xatalos town. It's the asymmetrical shift that's interesting, both in the sense that people are more willing to move off you and that people are less willing to move off of him. What is interesting about your response is that you've ignored my point about Imperial entirely to pick at the corners of the point I'm trying to make.


I think we all kinda know what's going on here. A lot of people moved off of Vivax as soon as there was a lynchbaity wagon (my wagon) to move onto. Wagons that fall apart easily like this in non-PM games tend to be wagons on scum. I think Vivax would be an acceptable D1 lynch, but I actually haven't read his filter or his case. I'm basing this entirely on the fact that Vivax is a really good town player with heroic tier reads and pushing ability, and I haven't passively just NOTICED that he's playing well, which is what I'd expect from him

So Xatalos isn't lynch bait? You're lynch bait?


I'm obvious lynch bait. Look, JAT and Rsoultin have personal animus against me, so they're always gonna vote me (no matter what they say about cases or what not).

No, I don't. If you gave a good reason for why Vivax or Xatalos should be killed instead of you I would be all ears but all you are doing is whining. I admit that the insults are not helping your case but that's more because you do this as mafia.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#1426
OK, so in terms of major reads, I think:

Marv is probably town, but if he's not shot in a day or two, look into him
Sandro is definitely town for researching me

Vivax scum for not being town vivax, who is an hero
And... let's say, Yamato scum for not having real reasons

Damdred, I'd like to hear about your motivations for voting me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22041 Posts
May 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#1427
I find it kinda creepy that BH has such high opinion of my play.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#1428
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive
Writer@WriterYamato
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
May 12 2015 23:37 GMT
#1429
On May 13 2015 08:33 marvellosity wrote:
i'm stoned and a bit confused

it seems like bh is posting better than vivax at least

You will have to decide soon.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 23:37 GMT
#1430
I just can't go to sleep it seems -.- Thinking too much about the deadline.

I'd rather lynch Vivax atm I think. BH's recent posts looked better compared.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2015 23:37 GMT
#1431
##unvote
##vote: vivax


HtS coming back reminded me i've quite liked her posting and by extension i don't like vivax's read on her
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22041 Posts
May 12 2015 23:38 GMT
#1432
You guys are so wobbly. I went over Xatalos filter again and didn't feel much different about it than before, I see literally no reason to go full shenanny as you do.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:39 GMT
#1433
On May 13 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive


So, this isn't an actual objection given that I've like, had a fair number of contributions, even if they're not literally that enormous case on Damdred I made that last game that was so long I got lynched because people didn't read it. Also, all of this is dodging the issue, which isn't how I've been playing....

it's about how your heuristic doesn't make sense. "lynch BH becasue he's inactive" is fine, but saying that WHILE saying "Bh being active is a thing scum bh does" says to ME that you aren't trying to hunt scum, because your throught process isn't progressing naturally.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 12 2015 23:39 GMT
#1434
LYNCH VIVAX WITH ME

DAMDRED, GB, STUTTERS, WHOEVER ELSE

Blazinghand, if you're somehow town, save yourself and vote Vivax please


##unvote
##vote Vivax

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 12 2015 23:39 GMT
#1435
LYNCH XATA MAN.
100% SCUM.
Vivax might be but Xata is more scum.
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22041 Posts
May 12 2015 23:40 GMT
#1436
On May 13 2015 08:39 Half the Sky wrote:
LYNCH VIVAX WITH ME

DAMDRED, GB, STUTTERS, WHOEVER ELSE

Blazinghand, if you're somehow town, save yourself and vote Vivax please


##unvote
##vote Vivax



I thought you wanted to lynch Vivax/Xatalos
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:40 GMT
#1437
On May 13 2015 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive


So, this isn't an actual objection given that I've like, had a fair number of contributions, even if they're not literally that enormous case on Damdred I made that last game that was so long I got lynched because people didn't read it. Also, all of this is dodging the issue, which isn't how I've been playing....

it's about how your heuristic doesn't make sense. "lynch BH becasue he's inactive" is fine, but saying that WHILE saying "Bh being active is a thing scum bh does" says to ME that you aren't trying to hunt scum, because your throught process isn't progressing naturally.

no it's "lynch BH because he's not trying to find mafia"

"look he's posting things that are not finding mafia"

"look he posted a case on a >20 post player, he's still not trying to find mafia"

"look he's defending himself like he does as mafia"
Writer@WriterYamato
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:40 GMT
#1438
##unvote
##vote vivax


looks like I get to live after all! :D

I wonder how many posts I'll be allowed to make if I'm not mked
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 12 2015 23:41 GMT
#1439
I think BH has proved he is town with his posting here. Comparing it to xatalos or vivax especially.

with xatalos, still my top scum read but i haven't convinced people

reading vivax again, i sort of agree with hts post, he hasn't really done anything that makes me want to keep him alive I liked one early post of his but he has been pretty lazy. I also really like trefls post.

if marv , HTS and GB like a vivax lynch..i'm ok with that and I want to keep BH alive over vivax for sure. leaving my vote on xatalos accomplishes nothing at this point.

##unvote
##vote: vivax
Zerg for Life
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 12 2015 23:41 GMT
#1440
On May 13 2015 08:40 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive


So, this isn't an actual objection given that I've like, had a fair number of contributions, even if they're not literally that enormous case on Damdred I made that last game that was so long I got lynched because people didn't read it. Also, all of this is dodging the issue, which isn't how I've been playing....

it's about how your heuristic doesn't make sense. "lynch BH becasue he's inactive" is fine, but saying that WHILE saying "Bh being active is a thing scum bh does" says to ME that you aren't trying to hunt scum, because your throught process isn't progressing naturally.

no it's "lynch BH because he's not trying to find mafia"

"look he's posting things that are not finding mafia"

"look he posted a case on a >20 post player, he's still not trying to find mafia"

"look he's defending himself like he does as mafia"


bolded is something you didn't say, scummato
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