On February 15 2015 14:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Like if he flips blue it wont help us solve the game in fact I think it's the opposite since we need our blue's to stay alive and do their jobs.

Except a claimed vet has no job anymore, his job is to eat a NK which won't happen now because he claimed. Discussion was still going on, why claim when he did? Vet becomes confirmed when a NK is at them and missed, then you claim and confirmed town. Gunmaker makes his gun when it is fired he claims and becomes confirmed. Mason when his partner dies he claims shows breadcrumbs and no CC becomes confirmed. While these roles aren't super strong on their own when each become confirmed town it becomes really hard for scum to win. It's hard to believe in LM claim.

geript

10024 Posts

February 15 2015 05:43 GMT

#2445

On February 15 2015 13:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Geript how come you think sicklucker and I could have orchestrated the entirety of the first two days but don't even bat an eyelash at my equally easy claim?

I've considered you, it's just that there's more situational evidence to suggest that you're town. Whereas with him, not so much.

Damdred

15669 Posts

February 15 2015 05:49 GMT

#2446

Its the better play to lynch into the green claims than the blue claims.

and we gain much less information and lms claim makes sense with the weakness of the other roles.

geript

10024 Posts

February 15 2015 06:05 GMT

#2447

If he's mafia, then it's really awful lynching into the "green claims." Like hitting mafia is really low percentage then. If he's town, then it's a situation that we literally have to face each and every day. IDK Damdy.

I wonder if there could be 4 mafia. That could explain the setup.

geript

10024 Posts

February 15 2015 06:07 GMT

#2448

Nope 3 confirmed mafia.

geript

10024 Posts

February 15 2015 06:10 GMT

#2449

I get the trepidation but I really can't imagine a mason get gunsmith setup.

geript

10024 Posts

February 15 2015 06:11 GMT

#2450

It's like tracker cop. It's just too easy to auto confirm people and leave little to no room for mafia to hide in.

gobbledydook

Australia2593 Posts

February 15 2015 09:56 GMT

#2451

I am tired and confused and busy today. I'll try to figure this claim shit when if I have time.

gobbledydook

Australia2593 Posts

February 15 2015 11:14 GMT

#2452

I thought about it.

I agree with onegs' analysis. Following that logic we can assume that there aren't more blues not claimed yet. I trust ff given his rb claim and the story fits. So town vet is the only roleblock worthy role and that means LM is not worth more than a green.

That said why shouldn't we lynch ls?

Damdred

15669 Posts

February 15 2015 13:54 GMT

#2453

There have been a few setups with four blues and three mafia. Its not the furthest thing plus we still have at least one mafia on the greens which is why id rather not waste a lynch on lm especially since I think he's blue.

Gobble is an ok lynch I think.

Geeipt you just feel weird you are basically policy lynching at this point and not sure why you don't want to hunt in the greens

Damdred

15669 Posts

February 15 2015 14:11 GMT

#2454

Also claiming blue is honestly a death trap, might or might not save him and it gets more attention on him. Plus the way he reacted to the cop theory adds credence to either lm+ls team or the more likely lm is vet.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 15 2015 14:18 GMT

#2455

Just woke up and Onegu the way he reacted to the Cop thing seem genuine given that he claimed Vet because of the Cop theory by Damdred earlier in the the thread. Also Gobble play wasn't that impressive for a Vet TL Mafia player if he is town so there 's that.

Damdred

15669 Posts

February 15 2015 15:37 GMT

#2456

Really quiet day we have a good 4 1/2 hours left I think. And I will be here for deadline probably.

There was a theory that the lack of push means a dealt inactive mafia at that point. Rayn thinks scum was in the late voters also on SL.

I think it somewhat eliminates slam from the lynch, some things are off about slam he dits into the more inactive but he was a decently early voter on SL and switched to kier. I'd like to not lynch him today and lynch someone else.

OWS really tried to push the thread when it was at a lull and pressed for information, I think he's probably town in all actuality and shouldn't be the lynch.

This leaves me with a gobble geript or ls by poe. I don't think ls fits into inactive mafia and he's been trying to do things. I'd rather not lynch him. It would be informative as lm+ls would be the only team that makes sense with ls in it.

Lm I believe the claim would not lynch at all today.

I think lynching gobble has a few great things to it, it gives us a lot of good information that the thread can use. Besides the information gobble still isn't trying to push his own thoughts is being somewhat noncommital, really gave himself room to move out of voting ows and only has basically mentioned ls since even though obi is a coin flip. Gobble is the best lynch today

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

February 15 2015 15:49 GMT

#2457

I'm around. I'm okay with a gobble lynch as always, but my key issue is that SL tried to hammer him. There was no way gd didn't get lynched if I switched, so are we putting any stock into that or no?

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

February 15 2015 15:50 GMT

#2458

*If I didn't switch.

What I'm trying to say is that Kei's lynch was mostly accidental and gd being alive is a matter of pure luck, despite scum voting him.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 15 2015 15:52 GMT

#2459

For all we know sicklucker just loves to hammer his partners but I know bussed HTS in Void pretty damn hard and JAT to a certain extent. I know he even voted HTS to Hammer her so it's possible he isn't afraid to do that type of stuff to his partners.

Damdred

15669 Posts

February 15 2015 15:57 GMT

#2460

Meh he tried to lynch me in titanic mafia as his partner. Now, we have to see would a bus on gobble be viable, talk with me about it gobble dead in the water is it worth a bus