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Taytaylol
France6 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
On December 15 2014 20:32 Jimmeh wrote: Website is down for a couple of days, should be back by Wednesday latest. Sorry for any inconvenience. Thank you Jimmeh for the update! And thank you for supporting the project by providing the web server! 2014-12-15: MMR tool web server will be unavailable for couple of days. The 'download new version' button is side effect of this. There is no new version at the moment and the button will disappear when the web server is once again available. The tool itself works normally During the time when the web server is unavailable the tool itself will work normally if you have the latest version of both the tool & the DB file (tool v. 10.3, DB v. 20.2). Version information is given in the top of the main log. Only issue is that match data from this period will not be uploaded. Thus I will not have access to it (cannot check if you have had some problems during the period). The 'download new version' button is side effect of the server being down. If you click it, it will attempt to load the 'new version', but notices that the data is bad. As result it will discard the data and just use the old version. Thus in effect clicking the 'download new version' button does nothing during this period. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On December 15 2014 15:21 DarkLordFoxx wrote: I haven't had a good game in a very long time: http://i.imgur.com/1FtJaD1.jpg Most of the games it looks like it's the Blizzard bonus pool update issue? I have memory reader enabled. Is there anything I can do to help make more good games or do I just have to play a lot more games and hope? Here's the log from my latest game: + Show Spoiler + 22:07:14 -------------------------- 22:07:14 Game Start detected 22:07:14 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS 22:07:15 Reading Memory ...OK 22:07:15 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles! 22:07:55 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles 22:07:58 Webgrabber: Player true 22:08:01 Webgrabber: Opponent true 22:08:01 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles 22:08:01 Pre-Trigger done 22:18:19 Post-trigger: Start 22:19:19 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles 22:19:22 Webgrabber: Player true 22:19:26 Webgrabber: Opponent true 22:19:26 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles 22:19:26 Unranked detection starts (detection is disabled for lost matches) 22:19:26 Unranked detection ends 22:19:26 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player) 22:19:26 ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2890548/1/DarkLordFoxx/ 22:19:26 ERROR PRECHECK PRE-PLAYER: WEBSERVER middle update happened! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2794651/1/Spacemarine/ 22:19:26 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid 22:19:26 Gamecheck: false 22:19:26 POST-Trigger done 22:19:26 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR 22:19:26 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 22:19:26 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 22:19:28 OK Uploader: game uploaded 22:19:28 Ladder Game Done! 22:19:28 -------------------------- Errors in this log are caused by the out-of-sync issue of web profiles, which happens quite often. Regarding the bonus pool issue I have not heard anything for awhile. It affected only EU server and happened not that often to my knowledge. Another reason for a long period without MMR calculation results might be that you have been in low range of your league. At that range most of the time your MMR cannot be calculated from your oppoinent's data, unless you face someone from lower league. For example my last good game for one of my NA accounts was from the end of season 18. During season 19 I played ~20 games with that account and got no good games, but was all the time near the league border. At the start of season 20 I was demoted. Now as I was at the top of that league's MMR range I got immediately a good game that matched almost perfectly the last good reading from season 18 (estimate values were almost perfect). You can check example from here (to get to the example go through couple of links): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22798150 | ||
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Aurik
Germany12 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
On December 19 2014 07:22 Aurik wrote: It seems to me, that lots of Bad games are caused to "middle update happened", so maybe u should increase the time the tool is waiting bevor calculating the mmr. Maybe u can add a function where i can change the time myself. For now, i always stay a little bit longer in the game after i won them, and it seems helping me a lot. (instead of getting 90% bad gamed due to middle (or no) update happens i get only like 30%. At the moment data is fetched 1 minute after the match. Problem is that I have seen cases where it takes more than 5 minutes to fully update the profiles. And at that point there could have been potentially one or even two games played, if e.g. the opponent leaves immediately at the start, which results even bigger mess regarding the data. The 1 minute delay is pretty much edge case and not thrilled to increase that. Update regarding MMR tool server: It still seems unavailable. The side effect of having ' download new version' button does not happen anymore as the server address is not reached at all. We will have to wait patiently until the server is once more available. More information in earlier post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23440560 | ||
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Aurik
Germany12 Posts
On December 19 2014 17:54 korona wrote: At the moment data is fetched 1 minute after the match. Problem is that I have seen cases where it takes more than 5 minutes to fully update the profiles. And at that point there could have been potentially one or even two games played, if e.g. the opponent leaves immediately at the start, which results even bigger mess regarding the data. The 1 minute delay is pretty much edge case and not thrilled to increase that. Hmm, yes, it might happen that players have played one or two more games 5 min after the game, but in this rare cases, the tool normaly get this by detecting "wrong map name", so we just have one more bad game. Waiting just one single minute, i get about 66% of all my games detected as "midddle upadate happen" or "no update happen" for at least one player (so it cant calculate mmr) (atm i always stay 2 more min in the game, this is working fine). What do u think about increasing the time to somethink like 2-3 min? I think this would realy help and still the chance of someone playing one more game in just 3 min is realy low. And even then there is a high chance that he will have another map so there are no further problems. (sry for bad eng.) | ||
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Hadramos
France4 Posts
Pending, other link for download MMR Stats? Verry thanks | ||
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leopardb
Germany92 Posts
On December 20 2014 08:30 Aurik wrote: Hmm, yes, it might happen that players have played one or two more games 5 min after the game, but in this rare cases, the tool normaly get this by detecting "wrong map name", so we just have one more bad game. Waiting just one single minute, i get about 66% of all my games detected as "midddle upadate happen" or "no update happen" for at least one player (so it cant calculate mmr) (atm i always stay 2 more min in the game, this is working fine). What do u think about increasing the time to somethink like 2-3 min? I think this would realy help and still the chance of someone playing one more game in just 3 min is realy low. And even then there is a high chance that he will have another map so there are no further problems. (sry for bad eng.) Never thought about it, i'm going to wait in game a bit longer now, to check if it works better. Korona: why not making the "wait time after game" an advanced option that each player can set ? or even a hidden option that you can set in some text file ? (for people who really know what they're doing ?) Obviously, the problem is on Blizzard's side but as we know, they're working on it™, so it should work in 2027 or something, which forces us to go around their bugs :/ | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12224 Posts
On December 22 2014 00:44 leopardb wrote: Never thought about it, i'm going to wait in game a bit longer now, to check if it works better. Korona: why not making the "wait time after game" an advanced option that each player can set ? or even a hidden option that you can set in some text file ? (for people who really know what they're doing ?) Obviously, the problem is on Blizzard's side but as we know, they're working on it™, so it should work in 2027 or something, which forces us to go around their bugs :/ At first I was going to say that is a bad idea because having a tunable update period could change the accuracy of your projected rating. But on the other hand, you're only potentially hurting yourself. I think an advanced option like that could be reasonable provided the user understands accuracy could be affected. | ||
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Hadramos
France4 Posts
 http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/mmr/MMRPlugin.zip | ||
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Hadramos
France4 Posts
On December 22 2014 03:02 Hadramos wrote: Sorry but site is down for me http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/mmr/MMRPlugin.zip nobody for help me? | ||
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BurningRanger
Germany303 Posts
On December 16 2014 04:04 korona wrote: 2014-12-15: MMR tool web server will be unavailable for couple of days. The 'download new version' button is side effect of this. There is no new version at the moment and the button will disappear when the web server is once again available. The tool itself works normally That does effect the download of the full version, too. | ||
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cProg1x
United States32 Posts
On December 15 2014 20:32 Jimmeh wrote: Website is down for a couple of days, should be back by Wednesday latest. Sorry for any inconvenience. Hey, I was wondering if you'd have a mirror available to download while the web server is down since it's past Wednesday? Thank you! | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On December 25 2014 23:27 cProg1x wrote: Hey, I was wondering if you'd have a mirror available to download while the web server is down since it's past Wednesday? Thank you! Will look at the opportunity to mirror the files during some of the coming days. It seems the server will be unavailable longer than originally expected. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
2014-12-27: Mirror files of the tool & db file As the server is still down here are the mirror files: http://www.mediafire.com/download/brvvyadylm99z11/MMRPlugin_10_3.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/3v6ng4fya3v2wz0/bnet_20_2.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/9n58txudu1rrb0z/bnet_20_3.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/d595js0wwjbq2m2/bnet_data_20_4.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/64iee042z0tovq9/bnet_data_21_0.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/axt8v44zwscdn0b/bnet_data_21_1.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/pweln2al11qa616/bnet_data_21_2.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/u3i74d22nycxyg7/bnet_data_21_3.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/h74mhpgtresp6kk/bnet_data_21_4.zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/p5cvtf0pbbvwsq0/bnet_data_22_0.zip DB file version 22.1 (2015-04-30): http://www.mediafire.com/download/9cmd997qqzqgohe/bnet_data_22_1.zip The tool itself is installed as instructed on the original post. If you don't have the most resent DB file ( [PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\ Edit 2014-12-31: added new DB 20.3 Edit 2015-01-08: added new DB 20.4 Edit 2015-01-23: added new DB 21.1 Edit 2015-03-29: added new DB 21.2 Edit 2015-04-08: added new DB 21.3 Edit 2015-04-11: added DB 21.4 and 22.0 Edit 2015-04-30: added new DB 22.1 | ||
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Hadramos
France4 Posts
On December 27 2014 16:41 korona wrote: 2014-12-27: Mirror files of the tool & db file As the server is still down here are the mirror files: MMR tool version 10.3: http://www.mediafire.com/download/brvvyadylm99z11/MMRPlugin_10_3.zip DB file version 20.2: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3v6ng4fya3v2wz0/bnet_20_2.zip The tool itself is installed as instructed on the original post. If you don't have the most resent DB file (v 20.2, you can check the version from the start of the main log), you can install it by unzipping the packet to following folder (make sure the tool is not running when you do it, it will be loaded when launching the tool): [PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\ Very Thanks! and happy Holidays | ||
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MightyTeapot
United Kingdom1 Post
MMR Stats Screen Promotion On EU if relevant. | ||
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cProg1x
United States32 Posts
On December 26 2014 03:24 korona wrote: Will look at the opportunity to mirror the files during some of the coming days. It seems the server will be unavailable longer than originally expected. Really appreciate you taking the time to mirror the files for us. Thanks again! | ||
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Aurik
Germany12 Posts
Waiting about 2-3 more min after a winning game realy helps me out, but ofc i cant wait if I lost the game, so this games are always bad. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
Bonus pools at least on EU & NA web profiles have stopped increasing early Monday on local times. On game client bonus pools are still increasing. Some time ago Blizzard moved next season's starting date a week further and they seem to have moved the ladder lock period start date also on game client, but forgotten to do the changes for web profiles. Thus the web profiles show incorrect bonus pools and all calculations made based on them will lead to incorrect results. After I have confirmed it is indeed a display bug on web profile side & not on client side, I will release a DB file that locks all data on all servers. As the MMR tool server is still down this DB file must be manually downloaded & installed. Edit: It seems that most of the time incorrect capped bonus pool is given by the web profiles, but seldom correct one is returned. This seems to a bit similar bug that has happened at start of 3 last seasons. EU: bonus pool display bug on web profiles NA: bonus pool display bug on web profiles SEA: bonus pool display bug on web profiles CN: bonus pool display bug on web profiles KR: web profiles seem fine Polling data from (~once per 10 sec) different servers: EU server ('G' = good bpool data, '.' = invalid bpool data): | ||
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