Match Making Rating Tool - Page 194

korona

1098 Posts

November 05 2014 13:56 GMT

#3861

On November 05 2014 11:05 NonameAI wrote:
Im having the following problem:

After going on a losing streak, my MMR dropped from ~1450 to about ~1000. The weird thing is that it was not a spike. All the data for my old games dropped down too, except for a couple of early games in the graph. I know that I am still playing against mid-high diamond on ladder and performing just fine, but my MMR dropped down to super low diamond and some of my old games that i won against diamond were apparently at gold level MMR. Is this supposed to happen? Was I never at 1400MMR?

To graphically display which games are 'good games' switch following setting on: 'config' > 'data' > 'mark assumptions / bad games' > 'save&exit'.

The 'good games' affect the graph in following manner: For example if uppercase X, Y, Z are 'good games', then the affected estimate games are shown in lowercase x, y & z (Note that 'Z' is the last 'good game' you have played:

 xxxxxxXyyyyyyYzzzzZzzzzzz

For example if you have experienced MMR decay between Y and Z, then the estimate games before the decay will be adjusted too low until Y. The tool does not know the exact moment the decay happens. Max decay happens when you have been on hiatus for 4 weeks or more and it would throw low diamond range accounts to high gold range.

But as you have noticed there are incorrect results sometimes too. As I don't know your account name(s) I cannot check your data. You mentioned that you had some ~1450 MMR earlier. Usually at that high you receive a master promotion very quickly. And there are very small amount of players that high (most are usually at low range of their league or even below). It sounds you might have had too high calculation results earlier. But then again you may now have too low especially if you have not faced decay. Hard to speculate without seeing the data.

And for those few I promised to check their data. It seems it will take at least to the weekend before I have time.

NonameAI

127 Posts

November 05 2014 22:50 GMT

#3862

http://imgur.com/a/AhQ3f
Here are images before and after the drop.
I know for sure that i probably was not masters skill level...

But I definitely was not low plat in terms of skill, especially since i was winning against exclusively diamond league at that point, which it shows me as being (plat and gold mmr lines not in screenshot).

korona

1098 Posts

November 06 2014 19:00 GMT

#3863

On November 06 2014 07:50 NonameAI wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/AhQ3f
Here are images before and after the drop.
I know for sure that i probably was not masters skill level...

But I definitely was not low plat in terms of skill, especially since i was winning against exclusively diamond league at that point, which it shows me as being (plat and gold mmr lines not in screenshot).

First. MMR often differs from the actual skill. The harsh MMR decay introduced at the launch of HotS made sure that sometimes wildly different skilled players are mixed with similar MMR. E.g. if a diamond player takes 1 month hiatus do you think he would magically become a gold skilled player as his automatically dropped MMR would suggest? Blizzard made the system even more fuzzy by adding league preference regarding the matchmaking. It still matches players based on MMR, but if there are close available opponents from your own league, it will prefer those opponents opposed of close opponents from lower leagues. And there are lots of diamond players who have platinum range MMR. Only close to the low platinum border opponents from platinum or gold start to increase for a diamond player (note that the time when you play also affects general level of opponents who are available. For example during wee hours there are less opponents available, but is more likely to face more determined ones, who potentially have suffered MMR decay).

Based on that image, the first good opponent value and the last two your good values are in sync. It would suggest that those values are likely correct and the first good value incorrect. If I knew your account name I could check if the data supports this hypothesis to be sure.

Newfur

United States9 Posts

November 09 2014 08:41 GMT

#3864

I'm getting that my profile is invalid no matter what. Help?

EDIT: logs so far. Played 4 games, no joy yet.

LOG FILE:
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03:22:51 MMR-Stats 10.3
03:22:51 --------INIT START--------
03:22:51 OK File-Encoding UTF-8
03:22:51 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled.
03:22:51 Loading HOTS DB file...
03:22:51 OK Loading DB version 19.7 done
03:22:52 OK DB up to date!
03:22:52 Loading character profiles:
03:22:52 Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
03:22:52 OK Settings loaded!
03:22:52 OK Gamedata: 3 Games loaded.
03:22:52 Loading Archive...
03:22:52 No Data Found!
03:22:52 Memory scanner is disabled
03:22:52 OK Triggers ready!
03:22:52 Unranked detection for LOST new games has been disabled for following servers (remove recorded unranked games manually): US, EU, KR, SEA, CN
03:22:53 OK: Program is up to date
03:22:53 --------INIT END--------
03:23:42 --------------------------
03:23:42 Game Start detected
03:24:22 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
03:24:27 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site giveup!
03:24:27 Solving division ladder URL via API failed, retrying via normal web profile
03:24:35 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site giveup!
03:24:35 FATALERROR WEBGRABBER could not fetch season number! EXPECTED: 19. Player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
03:24:35 Webgrabber: Player false
03:24:35 No Profile, skip
03:24:35 Webgrabber: Opponent false
03:24:35 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
03:24:35 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
03:24:35 Pre-Trigger: player 2:

03:24:35 Pre-Trigger done
03:39:39 Post-trigger: Start
03:40:39 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
03:40:44 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site giveup!
03:40:44 Solving division ladder URL via API failed, retrying via normal web profile
03:40:51 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site giveup!
03:40:51 FATALERROR WEBGRABBER could not fetch season number! EXPECTED: 19. Player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
03:40:51 Webgrabber: Player false
03:40:56 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site giveup!
03:40:56 Solving division ladder URL via API failed, retrying via normal web profile
03:41:03 ERROR Webgrabber: Cant catch Site giveup!
03:41:03 FATALERROR WEBGRABBER could not fetch season number! EXPECTED: 19. Player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1321751/1/Drusius/
03:41:03 Webgrabber: Opponent false
03:41:03 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
03:41:03 Unranked detection starts (detection is disabled for lost matches)
03:41:03 Unranked detection ends
03:41:03 Bonus calc (CobaltMouse diam-): max end: 1790, max fetch: 1790
03:41:03 Bonus calc (Drusius diam-): max end: 1790, max fetch: 1790
03:41:03 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
03:41:03 Adjusted calculator ERROR: Invalid player data: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
03:41:03 Adjusted calculator ERROR: Invalid player data: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1321751/1/Drusius/
03:41:03 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
03:41:03 Gamecheck: false
03:41:03 GAME:
HotS
03:41:03 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2276905
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
game: HotS
server: US
league: gold
division_name: zeratul zeta
Main race: z
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 11/9/2014
mapname: Foxtrot Labs LE
totalbonuspool: 1790
Wins: 48
Looses: 33
points: 1154
bonus: 836
change_points: 20
adjusted_points: -9999

03:41:03 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: HotS
server:
league: error
division_name: error
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: error
mapname: error
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

03:41:03 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2276905
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
game: HotS
server: US
league: gold
division_name: zeratul zeta
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 11/9/2014
mapname: Catallena LE
totalbonuspool: 1790
Wins: 49
Looses: 34
points: 1174
bonus: 809
change_points: 0
adjusted_points: -9999

03:41:03 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-1321751
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1321751/1/Drusius/
game: HotS
server: US
league: gold
division_name: broodling chi
Main race: t
Game race: t
gamedate: 11/9/2014
mapname: Catallena LE
totalbonuspool: 1790
Wins: 7
Looses: 0
points: 172
bonus: 1704
change_points: 32
adjusted_points: -9999

03:41:03 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1415522386024
VALID: false
Result for player 1: L
--- GAMEEND ---

03:41:03 POST-Trigger done
03:41:03 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
03:41:03 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 0% 
03:41:03 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 0% 
03:41:04 OK Uploader: game uploaded
03:41:04 Ladder Game Done!
03:41:04 --------------------------

korona

1098 Posts

November 09 2014 16:32 GMT

#3865

On November 09 2014 17:41 Newfur wrote:
I'm getting that my profile is invalid no matter what. Help?

EDIT: logs so far. Played 4 games, no joy yet.

LOG FILE:
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They seem to have disabled NA web API for Blizzcon duration. Thus fetching the season number is not possible for NA profiles and data is set bad: http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/15141444340

But anyways I just locked MMR tool data for all servers due the season transition. New good games are not possible for couple of days.

Another thing is that they are moving to their new API that requires authentication in early 2015. Anonymous APIs will be removed. And they still have no API replacement for desktop applications (only for web applications). And it is likely I have to disable API support entirely for MMR tool in early 2015 (from that point on it is not possible to get season number unless they restore them to the normal web profiles. Also it will not be possible to recognize which divisions are WoL divisions and which HotS division for Chinese server (for other servers it is possible to deduce this from web profiles)).

korona

1098 Posts

November 09 2014 16:39 GMT

#3866

2014-11-09: New season 20 is starting soon (already started for KR, CN, SEA) and thus DB was locked (v. 19.8)

Please restart Sc2gears at the latest when your server switches season (happens around midnight CET for EU and midnight PDT for NA). When all servers have switched and all web profiles have been updated I will calculate bonus pool start times & release the lock. But this will potentially take some days as in two last seasons Blizzard has had trouble regarding the API and web profile updates at season start. Would not be surprised if it is the same case this time too...

Newfur

United States9 Posts

November 09 2014 20:50 GMT

#3867

On November 10 2014 01:32 korona wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 09 2014 17:41 Newfur wrote:
I'm getting that my profile is invalid no matter what. Help?

EDIT: logs so far. Played 4 games, no joy yet.

LOG FILE:
+ Show Spoiler +

OK. I guess I just chose a really bad time to start using this tool. Thanks anyway! I look forward to starting up again in a few days! About how long do you think it will take after season reset to get good games for this?

korona

1098 Posts

November 09 2014 23:24 GMT

#3868

On November 10 2014 05:50 Newfur wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 10 2014 01:32 korona wrote:

On November 09 2014 17:41 Newfur wrote:
I'm getting that my profile is invalid no matter what. Help?

EDIT: logs so far. Played 4 games, no joy yet.

LOG FILE:
+ Show Spoiler +

Depends on Blizzard how fast they get season switch done regarding web profiles and API. They have had problems at start of two last seasons. I think it took some 2 to 3 days in this ending season (S19). And 4 to 5 days to get things fixed in previous season (S18). Hopefully they get things done faster for season 20.

But keep the tool on while playing. Even if the data is marked 'bad'. It can later be used as estimate data.

korona

1098 Posts

November 12 2014 10:53 GMT

#3869

2014-11-12: Season 20 web profiles still not fixed (profiles partially show S19 data and bonus pool for S20 missing)

Season 20 started couple of days ago, but just like last season Blizzard has updated the web profiles only partially. Yesterday the S20 divisions became available via web profiles, but the bonus pools are missing. This is because the web profiles are partially still in season 19. Bonus pool is shown only for S19 divisions and not at all for S20 divisions. Until Blizzard fixes the profiles, the MMR tool DB remains to be locked (no new good games are possible).

Edit: Just by reading different forums it seems the ladder offfsets / thresholds have likely remained the same. There are so many demotion reports in various places. At least MMR decay feature is still active.

Edit: 2014-11-13 17:30 CET: Web profiles regarding the bonus pool have been fixed for all servers except China during last night. I will update DB file later today or tomorrow. But Blizzard has disabled SC2 anonymous API for the duration of WoW expansion launch. Thus the tool will mark matches bad even after the DB update until Blizzard re-enables the API.

korona

1098 Posts

November 14 2014 18:51 GMT

#3870

2014-11-14: MMR tool DB (v. 20.1) updated for S20 for NA, EU, KR and SEA servers (CN still not updated)

Updated bonus pool accumulation starting times for all servers except China. Blizzard has also re-enabled SC2 anonymous web-API so good games are now possible once again. Please restart Sc2gears to download the new DB file.

Chinese web profiles are still only partially updated. As there is no bonus pool data regarding S20 available from CN web profiles, the CN data remains locked regarding MMR tool (no new good games possible for CN games).

Edit 2014-11-18: Chinese web profiles are still malfunctioning regarding the bonus pool. Thus Chinese data remains locked. Note that I am not going to check every day if Blizzard has fixed the Chinese web profiles. If you notice Blizzard has fixed them, then please inform in this thread.

macmazen

Germany1 Post

November 15 2014 00:17 GMT

#3871

I have 41 games played now but still no "good game" in sight, just keep getting these errors:

ERROR PRECHECK PRE-PLAYER: WEBSERVER middle update happened!
ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened!
ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid

korona

1098 Posts

November 15 2014 05:16 GMT

#3872

On November 15 2014 09:17 macmazen wrote:
I have 41 games played now but still no "good game" in sight, just keep getting these errors:

ERROR PRECHECK PRE-PLAYER: WEBSERVER middle update happened!
ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened!
ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid

First if you have read the messages in this thread the DB was locked from last Sunday evening CET time to Friday evening CET time. No good games were possible during that period. This is because it first took several days for Blizzard to update the web profiles + they disabled the web API for WoW expansion launch period.

Second those error messages you mentioned are related to out-of-sync issue that Blizzard's web profiles have been suffering since February. More information regarding that can be found when you check few last pages. Check e.g. this and all links in older messages http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23174856

But now as web profiles seem to work for all servers except CN good games are possible again. But depending where you are in your league range it may take a while. Also at start of the season it takes some time for the opponents to reach their typical adjusted point levels (more likely to get good calculation results then).

PS: Promised few weeks back to check few profiles. That is still in my task list. We will see how long it takes me to find time.

Newfur

United States9 Posts

November 16 2014 21:02 GMT

#3873

I've been getting that all my games are 50% now instead of 0%. Will this just clear up? If so, how long will it take?

LOG FILE:
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15:02:43 MMR-Stats 10.3
15:02:43 --------INIT START--------
15:02:43 OK Encoding: OK
15:02:43 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled.
15:02:43 Loading HOTS DB file...
15:02:43 OK Loading DB version 20.1 done
15:02:45 OK DB up to date!
15:02:45 Loading character profiles:
15:02:45 Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
15:02:45 OK Settings loaded!
15:02:45 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 18 sec
15:02:45 OK Gamedata: 13 Games loaded.
15:02:45 Loading Archive...
15:02:45 No Data Found!
15:02:45 Memory scanner is disabled
15:02:45 OK Triggers ready!
15:02:45 DB has been locked for following servers (new games are set invalid): CN
15:02:45 Unranked detection for LOST new games has been disabled for following servers (remove recorded unranked games manually): US, EU, KR, SEA, CN
15:02:46 OK: Program is up to date
15:02:46 --------INIT END--------
15:04:06 --------------------------
15:04:06 Game Start detected
15:04:46 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
15:04:50 Webgrabber: Player true
15:04:50 No Profile, skip
15:04:50 Webgrabber: Opponent false
15:04:50 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
15:04:50 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
15:04:50 Pre-Trigger: player 2:

15:04:50 Pre-Trigger done
15:12:32 Post-trigger: Start
15:13:32 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
15:13:36 Webgrabber: Player true
15:13:39 Webgrabber: Opponent true
15:13:39 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
15:13:39 DATAERROR BONUSCHANGETIME: post-game bonuspool value will be set bad for: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
15:13:39 DATAERROR BONUSCHANGETIME: post-game bonuspool value will be set bad for: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5916921/1/WhatsHisName/
15:13:39 Unranked detection starts (detection is disabled for lost matches)
15:13:39 Unranked detection ends
15:13:39 DATAERROR BONUSCHANGETIME: Bonus pool increased while fetching match data --> Match data set to bad
15:13:39 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
15:13:39 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
15:13:39 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 
15:13:40 OK Uploader: game uploaded
15:13:40 Ladder Game Done!
15:13:40 --------------------------
15:15:38 --------------------------
15:15:38 Game Start detected
15:16:18 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
15:16:22 Webgrabber: Player true
15:16:22 No Profile, skip
15:16:22 Webgrabber: Opponent false
15:16:22 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
15:16:22 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
15:16:22 Pre-Trigger: player 2:

15:16:22 Pre-Trigger done
15:26:07 Post-trigger: Start
15:27:07 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
15:27:11 Webgrabber: Player true
15:27:14 Webgrabber: Opponent true
15:27:14 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
15:27:14 Unranked detection starts (detection is disabled for lost matches)
15:27:14 Unranked detection ends
15:27:14 Bonus calc (TheLegacyx diam-): max end: 112, max fetch: 112
15:27:14 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
15:27:14 ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
15:27:14 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
15:27:14 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4033054/1/TheLegacyx/
15:27:14 A -9999 B -9999

15:27:14
15:27:14 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4033054/1/TheLegacyx/
15:27:14 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
15:27:14 Gamecheck: false
15:27:14 GAME:
HotS
15:27:14 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2276905
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
game: HotS
server: US
league: platinum
division_name: pylon alamo
Main race: z
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 11/16/2014
mapname: Xel'Naga Caverns
totalbonuspool: 112
Wins: 7
Looses: 2
points: 171
bonus: 14
change_points: 24
adjusted_points: 73

15:27:14 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: HotS
server:
league: error
division_name: error
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: error
mapname: error
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

15:27:14 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2276905
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
game: HotS
server: US
league: platinum
division_name: pylon alamo
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 11/16/2014
mapname: Cloud Kingdom LE
totalbonuspool: 112
Wins: 9
Looses: 2
points: 209
bonus: 0
change_points: 14
adjusted_points: 97

15:27:14 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-4033054
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4033054/1/TheLegacyx/
game: HotS
server: US
league: platinum
division_name: victory lima
Main race: t
Game race: t
gamedate: 11/16/2014
mapname: Cloud Kingdom LE
totalbonuspool: 112
Wins: 2
Looses: 2
points: 30
bonus: 86
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 4

15:27:14 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1416169586223
VALID: false
Result for player 1: W
--- GAMEEND ---

15:27:14 POST-Trigger done
15:27:14 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
15:27:14 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
15:27:14 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 
15:27:16 OK Uploader: game uploaded
15:27:16 Ladder Game Done!
15:27:16 --------------------------
15:33:15 --------------------------
15:33:15 Game Start detected
15:33:55 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
15:34:03 Webgrabber: Player true
15:34:03 No Profile, skip
15:34:03 Webgrabber: Opponent false
15:34:03 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
15:34:03 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
15:34:03 Pre-Trigger: player 2:

15:34:03 Pre-Trigger done
15:49:06 Post-trigger: Start
15:50:06 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
15:50:19 Webgrabber: Player true
15:50:30 Webgrabber: Opponent true
15:50:30 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
15:50:30 Unranked detection starts (detection is disabled for lost matches)
15:50:30 Unranked detection ends
15:50:30 Bonus calc (ITLCI diam-): max end: 112, max fetch: 112
15:50:30 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
15:50:30 ERROR PRECHECK PRE-PLAYER: WEBSERVER middle update happened! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
15:50:30 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
15:50:30 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3115802/1/ITLCI/
15:50:30 A -9999 B -9999

15:50:30
15:50:30 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3115802/1/ITLCI/
15:50:30 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
15:50:30 Gamecheck: false
15:50:30 GAME:
HotS
15:50:30 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2276905
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
game: HotS
server: US
league: platinum
division_name: pylon alamo
Main race: z
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 11/16/2014
mapname: Cloud Kingdom LE
totalbonuspool: 112
Wins: 9
Looses: 2
points: 209
bonus: 0
change_points: 14
adjusted_points: 97

15:50:30 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: HotS
server:
league: error
division_name: error
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: error
mapname: error
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

15:50:30 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-2276905
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2276905/1/CobaltMouse/
game: HotS
server: US
league: platinum
division_name: pylon alamo
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 11/16/2014
mapname: Metalopolis
totalbonuspool: 112
Wins: 9
Looses: 2
points: 209
bonus: 0
change_points: 12
adjusted_points: 97

15:50:30 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-3115802
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3115802/1/ITLCI/
game: HotS
server: US
league: platinum
division_name: braken pepper
Main race: p
Game race: p
gamedate: 11/16/2014
mapname: Metalopolis
totalbonuspool: 112
Wins: 19
Looses: 26
points: 168
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 56

15:50:30 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1416170964844
VALID: false
Result for player 1: W
--- GAMEEND ---

15:50:30 POST-Trigger done
15:50:30 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
15:50:30 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
15:50:30 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 
15:50:35 OK Uploader: game uploaded
15:50:35 Ladder Game Done!
15:50:35 --------------------------

korona

1098 Posts

November 17 2014 02:51 GMT

#3874

On November 17 2014 06:02 Newfur wrote:
I've been getting that all my games are 50% now instead of 0%. Will this just clear up? If so, how long will it take?

LOG FILE:
+ Show Spoiler +

First read the contents of the link I gave 2 posts before (and link chain inside it): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23293257

But quick summary of your log:

1) You don't have memory reader enabled. This means that only for games where opponent wins and has more than 0 bonus pool left, may lead to results (there are several other criteria). Also it is harder to detect if the data was incorrect due to the out-of-sync issue that Blizzard's web profiles are often suffering from. I recommend to switch it on to improve your chances.

2) Your first match in the log ended just when your bonus pool increased. As there may be slight delays regarding web profiles, all matches that end near the bonus pool tick time are marked bad (1 point error regarding bonus pool would lead potentially considerably incorrect results). 'Near' means some tens of seconds.

3) Other matches gave either "ERROR PRECHECK PRE-PLAYER: WEBSERVER middle update happened!" or "ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened! ". These are caused by the out-of-sync issue of Blizzard's profiles.

You just need to play more. Also it is advised to turn the memory reader on.

SwiftRH

United States105 Posts

December 08 2014 18:42 GMT

#3875

does this still work?

korona

1098 Posts

December 09 2014 13:56 GMT

#3876

On December 09 2014 03:42 SwiftRH wrote:
does this still work?

Yes it should be. Why? Have you had problems?

I have not checked user graphs this season, but the uploaded data seems ok based on just looking at it. Also early season MMR calculation results were in line (checked only some) with last season's ones & there has been no sudden league distribution changes during early season (have been polling nios.kr, threshold changes during the season will cause clear spike). Thus there should have been no threshold changes by Blizzard either (last known offset threshold change was early S18. Now it is S20).

The out-of-sync issue of Blizzard's web profiles still continues causing increased amount of data marked as bad / increased amount of incorrect results (still good results are majority).

Thought during last 7 days there has been reports on the bonus pool bug on EU server (e.g. 1,2 and experiences from people I know). Bonus points have not been used for every game even if there is pool. Based on reports the issue is less common than the issue that occurred last season that forced me to lock EU data for a moment. Thus I have not locked EU data yet, even if that issue will cause incorrect calculations if memory reader was not active (or pre-game data was not available).

DarkLordFoxx

United States12 Posts

December 15 2014 06:21 GMT

#3877

I haven't had a good game in a very long time: http://i.imgur.com/1FtJaD1.jpg

Most of the games it looks like it's the Blizzard bonus pool update issue? I have memory reader enabled. Is there anything I can do to help make more good games or do I just have to play a lot more games and hope?

Here's the log from my latest game:
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22:07:14 --------------------------
22:07:14 Game Start detected
22:07:14 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
22:07:15 Reading Memory ...OK
22:07:15 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
22:07:55 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
22:07:58 Webgrabber: Player true
22:08:01 Webgrabber: Opponent true
22:08:01 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
22:08:01 Pre-Trigger done
22:18:19 Post-trigger: Start
22:19:19 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
22:19:22 Webgrabber: Player true
22:19:26 Webgrabber: Opponent true
22:19:26 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
22:19:26 Unranked detection starts (detection is disabled for lost matches)
22:19:26 Unranked detection ends
22:19:26 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
22:19:26 ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2890548/1/DarkLordFoxx/
22:19:26 ERROR PRECHECK PRE-PLAYER: WEBSERVER middle update happened! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2794651/1/Spacemarine/
22:19:26 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
22:19:26 Gamecheck: false
22:19:26 POST-Trigger done
22:19:26 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
22:19:26 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50%
22:19:26 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50%
22:19:28 OK Uploader: game uploaded
22:19:28 Ladder Game Done!
22:19:28 --------------------------

shamas4446

United States1 Post

December 15 2014 06:38 GMT

#3878

Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.

Taytaylol

France6 Posts

December 15 2014 11:14 GMT

#3879

Today, MMR stats won't stop asking me to Download new version.

I did it several times and restartes SC2Gears, but it keep asking me to update ...

Anyone ?

Jimmeh

United Kingdom908 Posts

December 15 2014 11:32 GMT

#3880

Website is down for a couple of days, should be back by Wednesday latest. Sorry for any inconvenience.

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