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On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully. I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though... Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. 5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote
I dont like what kelsier did at all. Lets be honest he tricked gullible little kush into committing suicide. I can still see it from a town perspective tho. Im sure LS still remembers something that he pulled in his last game...
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On December 12 2014 11:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 11:05 Half the Sky wrote:
2am...FML. Good night, will continue on this around lunchtime or so. LS, I will remember to follow up on Oats, but I'd say for now, it's not looking good. He just seemed way more involved.
Rasputin, since you're here, can you give a comparison of Oats' gameplay as you know it versus what we're seeing now, (or if you have an opinion, then what?) we are trying to see if we can compare playstyles and get something alignment indicative. My opinion from SMIV is that it's not looking good, but this isn't a mini game either. LS gave a load of links to go through a few pages ago. Heh, he's certainly less present this game, but the only one I'm comfortable giving a meta-read on is SL, and that's just cause he's so careless it's obvious. As a near plynch, sure...but I wouldn't vote Oats Day 2 unless I see something scummy from his corner, and he's reading more null than anything to me right now.
I havent done jack shit and you dont have a read on me?
actually that makes sense. disregard.
Froggydude still the best lynch for today, look at the shit he has written.
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I would explain but its all kinda bad 
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Hey glowingbear, why is liancourt scum and not a dick?
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Game before that then. Obviously not a game where what I say isn't what's happening -.-
I already explained how it's not the same at all. Your point 2 i already explained means nothing because I do it as town and literally gave an example which you just dismissed to talk about me being angry and this game I'm restricted to 4 pages max a cycle which makes gameplay totally different. If your meta doesn't carry over at all its not an alignment indicative meta. I don't understand how you can continue to push/believe this at all when presented with overwhelming evidence from not only me but multiple people saying otherwise unless you are mafia.
It feels like what you quoted of me doing to obi in that mafia game is what you're trying and failing to do to me. You have something that looks scummy to you and you stick to it like a dog as your only proper read because it looks like you're contributing etc.
All I can say is that you're pushing the wrong guy and I suggest you try and contribute elsewhere as people I'm sure are absolutely sick of you pressing the same meta and if they agreed they would have already said so. Do something else with you limited post counts because all your reasoning is out there now and you are wasting mine quite successfully.
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On December 12 2014 11:24 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully. I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though... On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. 5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote I dont like what kelsier did at all. Lets be honest he tricked gullible little kush into committing suicide. I can still see it from a town perspective tho. Im sure LS still remembers something that he pulled in his last game...
Hahaha, I'm sure LS remembers that. I think that his wanting to force FF to react was honest, but I need to check the time stamps for that.
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Actually no it was last game. Russian mini. Fu ritoky
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On December 09 2014 08:46 KelsierSC wrote:
So i have noticed something with this set up. If you are scrooge just claim.
Done within 2 minutes of FF posting. FF had multiple small posts during this time period, so Kelsier's claim that he was trying to force a reaction from FF isn't terribly unlikely and it does check out.
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On December 12 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:
Game before that then. Obviously not a game where what I say isn't what's happening -.-
I already explained how it's not the same at all. Your point 2 i already explained means nothing because I do it as town and literally gave an example which you just dismissed to talk about me being angry and this game I'm restricted to 4 pages max a cycle which makes gameplay totally different. If your meta doesn't carry over at all its not an alignment indicative meta. I don't understand how you can continue to push/believe this at all when presented with overwhelming evidence from not only me but multiple people saying otherwise unless you are mafia.
It feels like what you quoted of me doing to obi in that mafia game is what you're trying and failing to do to me. You have something that looks scummy to you and you stick to it like a dog as your only proper read because it looks like you're contributing etc.
All I can say is that you're pushing the wrong guy and I suggest you try and contribute elsewhere as people I'm sure are absolutely sick of you pressing the same meta and if they agreed they would have already said so. Do something else with you limited post counts because all your reasoning is out there now and you are wasting mine quite successfully.
? i have pushed on LS until he was basically obvious town, was the main proponent of the FF lynch which i believe you like for at least a portion of the reasons i brought to the table, and i pushed on kels lightly although he is my weakest scum read atm before you. so idk what you're talking about it being the only thing i am doing.
if i am not lynching you, i still don't see a reason not to lynch ff, i wouldn't mind a lynch on kels, and i think SL may have scum slipped by claiming that he KNEW FOR CERTAIN that damdred died via present and not being shot. i also don't know what to make of him and gb coming out and trying to dominate the phase and drive it toward me early on, but that's probably gut OMGUS reaction.
also posting this for myself and others for later:
On December 11 2014 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
Finished Counting For Today
ritoky (1): kushm4sta
27ninjabunnies (11): The_Templar, Holyflare, batsnacks, sicklucker, kitaman27, liancourt, Koshi, Xatalos, Tubesock, Trfel, Fecalfeast
The_Templar (2): GlowingBear, froggynoddy
Vivax (1): Oatsmaster
GlowingBear (1): Damdred
Fecalfeast (3): ritoky, LoneMeow, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (3): 27ninjabunnies, LightningStrike, Alakaslam
Xatalos (3): ObiWanShinobi, Vivax, rsoultin
froggynoddy (1): Half the Sky
Not Voting (0):
27ninjabunnies was lynched!
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On December 12 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
Actually no it was last game. Russian mini. Fu ritoky
oh, i must not have played cuz i was alive until the end in the mspaint game
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On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully. I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though... Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. 5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote
Oooh let's dance. GB, Slick, and now YOU are here to "pressure" and with your buddy KelsierSC on the wagon.
4 of 5. Is it my 5 or the games 5? Does it matter? No. Oh, wait, you are here to pressure me as your naughty friend Sicklucker's silly ##Vote: Tubesock didn't work. 5 of 5, 5 of mine or the games? Now does it matter? No.
Put in some effort. Defend KelsierSC or sink him now. The choice is yours. Distance or closeness. Answer that, should be easy, there is A LOT of content. Then we have a dance. I'll be here. When's your next "test"? How long you here? Huh, you here for 1 response or sticking around to REALLY DIG FOR SOME SCUM????
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On December 12 2014 11:41 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully. I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though... On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. 5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote Oooh let's dance. GB, Slick, and now YOU are here to "pressure" and with your buddy KelsierSC on the wagon. 4 of 5. Is it my 5 or the games 5? Does it matter? No. Oh, wait, you are here to pressure me as your naughty friend Sicklucker's silly ##Vote: Tubesock didn't work. 5 of 5, 5 of mine or the games? Now does it matter? No. Put in some effort. Defend KelsierSC or sink him now. The choice is yours. Distance or closeness. Answer that, should be easy, there is A LOT of content. Then we have a dance. I'll be here. When's your next "test"? How long you here? Huh, you here for 1 response or sticking around to REALLY DIG FOR SOME SCUM????
Sassy. Answer the damn question.
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On December 12 2014 11:38 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:
Game before that then. Obviously not a game where what I say isn't what's happening -.-
I already explained how it's not the same at all. Your point 2 i already explained means nothing because I do it as town and literally gave an example which you just dismissed to talk about me being angry and this game I'm restricted to 4 pages max a cycle which makes gameplay totally different. If your meta doesn't carry over at all its not an alignment indicative meta. I don't understand how you can continue to push/believe this at all when presented with overwhelming evidence from not only me but multiple people saying otherwise unless you are mafia.
It feels like what you quoted of me doing to obi in that mafia game is what you're trying and failing to do to me. You have something that looks scummy to you and you stick to it like a dog as your only proper read because it looks like you're contributing etc.
All I can say is that you're pushing the wrong guy and I suggest you try and contribute elsewhere as people I'm sure are absolutely sick of you pressing the same meta and if they agreed they would have already said so. Do something else with you limited post counts because all your reasoning is out there now and you are wasting mine quite successfully. ? i have pushed on LS until he was basically obvious town, was the main proponent of the FF lynch which i believe you like for at least a portion of the reasons i brought to the table, and i pushed on kels lightly although he is my weakest scum read atm before you. so idk what you're talking about it being the only thing i am doing. if i am not lynching you, i still don't see a reason not to lynch ff, i wouldn't mind a lynch on kels, and i think SL may have scum slipped by claiming that he KNEW FOR CERTAIN that damdred died via present and not being shot. i also don't know what to make of him and gb coming out and trying to dominate the phase and drive it toward me early on, but that's probably gut OMGUS reaction. also posting this for myself and others for later: Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
Finished Counting For Today
ritoky (1): kushm4sta
27ninjabunnies (11): The_Templar, Holyflare, batsnacks, sicklucker, kitaman27, liancourt, Koshi, Xatalos, Tubesock, Trfel, Fecalfeast
The_Templar (2): GlowingBear, froggynoddy
Vivax (1): Oatsmaster
GlowingBear (1): Damdred
Fecalfeast (3): ritoky, LoneMeow, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (3): 27ninjabunnies, LightningStrike, Alakaslam
Xatalos (3): ObiWanShinobi, Vivax, rsoultin
froggynoddy (1): Half the Sky
Not Voting (0):
27ninjabunnies was lynched!
Like your not this bad? I said im 90% sure because I sent him the present and their was no other reason for him to die (he claimed vt mafia would be role hunting) Damdred either died from a present or was veg shot which seems unlikely. My logic checks.
Now one thing I want to bring up is a real actual damming scum slip just happened and you both ignored it while you had your annoying fight I dont care about. It reminds me of the fight between hopeless and holyflare where I was mafia and licking my chops.Thoughts? on the real scum slip?
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 30 2014 04:11 geript wrote:I'd give JAT confirmed town status but iirc correctly he's had huge filters as mafia before. I've started feeling worse and worse about HF. It's not just not lynching scum. Most of his town games as of late have had ridiculous activity. In my experience HF is less active as mafia. And yes, 12 pages on D1 is low activity for him. More importantly: For someone who's relieved and I presume excited to roll town again his filter including length doesn't really show it. Especially when it gets to the lynch. Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I would lynch jat and palmar. Not honestly sure about damd tbh but wouldn't mind the pressure on him for now, wave feeels a bit unfocused but I'm not sure why i feel like that and I haven't really read him properly it just feels that way from watching him interact so kiiind of wary on that
Would lynch sentinel Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 05:32 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely nobody will follow you jat. Just like nobody will probably follow me. I'm content with both tbh. These are important for two reasons. HF could absolutely push a lynch on JAT or anyone he wanted. As town, HF hammers what he believes to be true. He a conceited asshole who has no doubts whatsoever in his ability (it's part of the reason I enjoy playing with him). But when you look at the lynch it's far more ambivalence. Also note: Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote:yeh it looked towny enough to move to sentinel  ##unvote
##vote sentinel Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 29 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote:yeh it looked towny enough to move to sentinel ##unvote
##vote sentinel maybe not actually his filter has more stuff than i remembered ##unvote 3 minutes to read and analyze a filter is quite fast. Seeing as how HF has seemed to be phone posting most if not all the time, that's blazing. More likely though it's just bullshit. For Damdred beaing a great lynch in HF's own words he ends up on a meh GB. Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 07:48 Holyflare wrote:On November 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
GB over, say, Sn0, HF? honestly i have no idea and the gb defending damd and damd defending gb is just too weird Like this is really odd. The argument applies equally both ways. HF thinks these things through as town. He's an exceptionally logic based player. But look at the length of his progression. 1. Would lynch JAT, Palmer, Sent; Damdred ambivalent 2. Shit fight with JAT but is content with no one sheeping him on JAT 3. Damdred (some who has been flawless reading Damdred) is a good lynch 4. Will listen to Damdred 5. Damdred towny enough to move to sent 6. Sent towny enough in filter to switch elsewhere 7. Ends on GB HF's previous 100% lock solid read on Damdred changes. JAT a preferred lynch come rely disappears and is never pushed. Mystical speed reading ability. GB move out of ass over suggestions (Marv/me) toward Sn0. A person (sent) who is a preferred lynch hasn't been read whatsoever but can be cleared in 3 minutes. HF is scum. He's not caring about getting a right lynch. He only cares about a not mafia lynch.
Geript case for reference. Eerily similar to what ritoky is pushing. Aka total tripe. You should be voting him until he produces things today. He's saying "oh I've done so much" but isn't pushing anything useful today other than baseless crap on me. So really he's done nothing but go yolo on one town and not updated his other reads today. Which he is calling me mafia for when he is incredibly guilty of it.
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Talking about the 5 mafia thing?
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Like I dont have to or want to defend kelsier. Hes not really anyones top lynch I think your the only one pushing him. Who are the 5? Your scum mates?
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On December 12 2014 11:24 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully. I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though... On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. 5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote I dont like what kelsier did at all. Lets be honest he tricked gullible little kush into committing suicide. I can still see it from a town perspective tho. Im sure LS still remembers something that he pulled in his last game...
Oooh, so so beautiful. Now we have something. NOW you decide to distance yourself from KelsierSC?? What about your ##Vote: Tubesock???? And Templar JUST came to your rescue to add pressure. Please don't go.
Ooh, now tell me naughty one, why is KelsierSC naughty??? Bring yourself closer, or separate yourself. Say something that isn't unproveable claim bullshit and I'll LOVE LOVE to respond. Prove I'm NAUGHTY.
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And holy. ritoky is basically an uncced veg/cop with 1 bullet or check. Why are you voting him? Your looking more scummy then him for doing it.
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On December 12 2014 11:52 sicklucker wrote:
And holy. ritoky is basically an uncced veg/cop with 1 bullet or check. Why are you voting him? Your looking more scummy then him for doing it.
You kidding me? I'm voting for someone I think is absolutely mafia and you're telling me you don't want me to vote for a potential mafia vig/cop?
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Like ritokys gonna sort himself out in the night. Just treat him like we were gonna vote him out and claimed cop. We cant vote him out. He can prove hes town tomorrow. If he does notill be the first to vote him.
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