EPTIM RIDE OR DIE WITH DAMDRED YAAEEEH
Theres too many other unknowns and hes gone against all my meta mafia reads on him. Congrats if you tricked me im never voting you.
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
IM RIDE OR DIE WITH DAMDRED YAAEEEH Theres too many other unknowns and hes gone against all my meta mafia reads on him. Congrats if you tricked me im never voting you. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On November 30 2014 10:43 sicklucker wrote: Maybe Ls is town if bats is. Hes just following him around like a puppy. If bats is town I like ls. kts is town I dont like either. This dont make any sense bro. It makes more sense for LS to be scum and looking for someone to sheep. Which is what has been happening the whole game. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On November 30 2014 10:48 sicklucker wrote: Is he tho? Either way the one thing im sure of is Hopeless1der Is probably town for moving the lynch off of kush. He was the one who pointed out the thing about a tie break. Even this is a bit sketchy because he might think kush is getting mod killed. But I think experienced players know kush is gonna get replaced not mod killed. Can anyone add to this? if they are both town, hopeless can do anything and look good. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On November 30 2014 11:23 Hopeless1der wrote: ergo i must look bad. thanks oats. btw to your "placeholder" argument, the only reason i came back was BH sent a voting reminder. I was still reading the thread, any vote i placed would have probably changed. no, ergo, you arent town for trying to lynch HTS over kush. Thats pretty mcuh the only argument i have Hopeless. You know why? cause you havent done jackkkkkkkk shit since you replaced. | ||
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Damdred
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
And I'd still bet anything that LS is scum. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
RNG hates us enough not giving us a cop. But I was worried through last night of a scum team with three veterans. At two lynches from LYLO one, there is a decent chance one of the lurkers is scum. Possibly two. Meat, Hopeless, LS. I'm saying this without filter diving, just based off numbers and given how this group collectively is playin Im sure there is one vet on the team. Again general comment, no evidence. Possible vets, Damdred, Bats, Oats, Hopeless Facts about voting. I believe it was either of Breshke or Meat that pushed Kush, originally. Oats pushed me. I'm not sure how he confused me with LS as he quoted me at least twice going back and forth. LS sheeped the entire time. Breshke could have hammered anyone but didn't. Damdred missed hammering me by presumably seconds. Rasputin could have hammered me but didn't. Because if I had to guess, there was at least one scum likely two in the lynch mob. I'm thinking two of these scum are Meat and Lightning especially considering Lightning sheeped 100%. Third one is a vet. I'm putting it as a tossup between Hopeless and Oats. Regarding the latter, Oats said I wasn't taking responsibility for my votes, yet his explanation for pushing me seems quite ironic. Again all first instincts based from last night. I'm going to read Bats case against Rasputin because I never got to through much before EoD. But N2 lynch yet to occur... | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
I was wrong on DSMI and Kush so it's likely I am wrong on thinking Bats is scum using the same way to conclude. SL seems much a scum hunter, still looking good to me. And Bats when you next get here, can you sum up in 1-2 sentences your key point against Rasputin? I read your posts twice now and... Also SL no one has counterclaimed Breshke on RB, I'm confused on how this isn't reliable? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
But some of you earlier in this game were making the argument that not all the mafia could be overly involved...equally likely not all the mafia are lurking. Which is why I conclude for now Oats or Hopeless. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On November 30 2014 22:05 Half the Sky wrote: Alright, so overhauling everything I've done so far. Back to the drawing board. RNG hates us enough not giving us a cop. But I was worried through last night of a scum team with three veterans. At two lynches from LYLO one, there is a decent chance one of the lurkers is scum. Possibly two. Meat, Hopeless, LS. I'm saying this without filter diving, just based off numbers and given how this group collectively is playin Im sure there is one vet on the team. Again general comment, no evidence. Possible vets, Damdred, Bats, Oats, Hopeless Facts about voting. I believe it was either of Breshke or Meat that pushed Kush, originally. Oats pushed me. I'm not sure how he confused me with LS as he quoted me at least twice going back and forth. LS sheeped the entire time. Breshke could have hammered anyone but didn't. Damdred missed hammering me by presumably seconds. Rasputin could have hammered me but didn't. Because if I had to guess, there was at least one scum likely two in the lynch mob. I'm thinking two of these scum are Meat and Lightning especially considering Lightning sheeped 100%. Third one is a vet. I'm putting it as a tossup between Hopeless and Oats. Regarding the latter, Oats said I wasn't taking responsibility for my votes, yet his explanation for pushing me seems quite ironic. Again all first instincts based from last night. I'm going to read Bats case against Rasputin because I never got to through much before EoD. But N2 lynch yet to occur... I confused you as in like I thought you posted what LS posted earlier I dont see how Im not taking responisbility for that post. BH completely randomizes his setups so no, the 3rd one is not neccesarrily a vet. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On November 30 2014 22:24 Half the Sky wrote: Also SL no one has counterclaimed Breshke on RB, I'm confused on how this isn't reliable? scum can just not roleblock with breshke claiming it. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
@bats, what's the deal with only using parts of my posts when you're quoting me? maybe that's common but it feels scummy as hell, especially when what you're badgering me about is explained right in the text of the posts that you conveniently left out of your quotes @ls...still think you're scummy, dude, but I did see that you claimed to be convinced by bats, damdred and hope that I was scum and weren't just voting cause I had voted for you, so my bad on that score yeah, breshke could be false claiming, but there was still a role out and about night 1. doubt mafia was so sure of trfel that they didn't bother to rb, unless rber was afk or something | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
I should have said "most likely" a vet. Reference page 3 of this thread. Statistically speaking the distribution of (defined) noobs to vets is just about half in this game. Statistically, a 2 noob/1 vet combo or 2 vets/1 noob combo is more likely than 3 noobs or 3 vets. Most here are settled on LS/Meat as two of the three. And on average, I cannot see all 3 scum being lurkers or all most active in any given game. Ignoring meta, people can choose to lurk, be more involved or somewhere in between. A mix of behaviours is most likely. Statistically speaking (ignoring meta and throwing out all assumptions I've made for reasons already explained) that narrows it to you, Bats, Damdred. ...if we assume LS and Meat are scum, both being noob category, and on the lesser end of posting. Not absolutely, but most statistically likely. And after last night I'm not as inclined to think Bats or Damdred scum. But that is subjective from me. It is certainly possible that Hopeless is scum, he sheeped the vote, but so did LS. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On December 01 2014 02:23 rsoultin wrote: Heh, well...my first instinct is the lynch mob shenaningans last night and squabbling was mostly town fighting town with maybe 1 or 2 scum jumping in to take advantage of the confusion I agree with this, neither of us hammered the other like you said and supporting Kush was a case based on meta. But still town driven. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
I'm not sure of bats, personally, but am willing to admit that's probably biased with him coming at me so hard. Seemed opportunistic from my standpoint. I will say though that generally any scum could have participated in (probably not led) all the shenanigans voting last night and come out smelling good since the lynch options probably weren't scum. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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Damdred
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
HTS Oats Meat Rsoultin | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On November 29 2014 22:18 Half the Sky wrote: Neither individual is helping the town agenda (both have promoted policy votes over scum votes for example). Looking at both Bats and Kush (as my current vote is on Bats) and using the above as a checklist for Kush: #1 - Check. I had pointed out the D1 argument on page 51, but why does Kush expect any of us to think that D1 makes him a townie? Reads with the exception of the one Kush did on his phone have been weak/unsupported. Bats' voting D1 was a problem, but the gap between voting Damdred and then jumping to DSMI is even worse given the arguments he used to try and sell that vote. He pushed that vote well before Damdred did. #2 - Check. Bats has dodged questions from three people this game (Oats, Breshke, myself). Kush isn't saying much of anything to begin with, but he dodged Oats on the Damdred read. #3 - Check. Kush is way more sporadic than Bats, Thanksgiving is forgiveable, but afterwards, even Bats hasn't afked. #4 - Check. At least I remember Bats for being overly defensive. Kush's filter on the other hand, I have had to filter dive three times in the last 12 hours. I'd say he's topped Bats in the scum category. ##unvote ##vote kushm4sta On November 27 2014 03:05 Half the Sky wrote: LS, check page 1. DSMI is not in the noob category. You were last game and this game. You cannot compare the two situations. Kush, I went through his filter again, and now your arguments are making a lot more sense. I checked the filter against the sequence of his reads/explanations versus others for the same individuals and there is a lot of bandwagoning. Too much for his own good this late in the day. I'm still not feeling too good about Batsnacks though, ignoring any meta. I would be lying if I said otherwise. ##Unvote ##Vote Dicksmash McIroncock | ||
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