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ketchup
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WaveofShadow
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jcarlsoniv
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On October 16 2014 04:42 ketchup wrote: I've repeatedly asked ghandi on how he sees himself helping town, but he has yet to respond. He's more interested in equivocating my posting to his, which is just categorically untrue. He has never been interested in working with a town agenda, only serving his self interest. | ||
onlywonderboy
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WaveofShadow
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Right now one of you is dead and we don't know which. If you're town then what you want to do is leave behind something that will help us win the game (because you can still win after you're dead). You have 4h. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 16 2014 04:44 WaveofShadow wrote: That it would be good scumplay. If they're both scum they have had no choice basically all day. If we were both scum, don't you think there would be more people than just ketchup interested in pressuring Req? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On October 16 2014 04:46 jcarlsoniv wrote: If we were both scum, don't you think there would be more people than just ketchup interested in pressuring Req? What? How do you figure? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 16 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote: You both need to stop posting defenses and attacks of each other at this point. Right now one of you is dead and we don't know which. If you're town then what you want to do is leave behind something that will help us win the game (because you can still win after you're dead). You have 4h. Isn't that pretty much what I said by "Whatever if their posting atm is good or not, they're pretty much restricted to attack each other if they're only looking at suvival"? Or at least that we couldn't evaluate them by that metric when deciding between them (and that by keeping doing that they pretty much dug it further between only the two of them). | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On October 16 2014 04:42 ketchup wrote: I've repeatedly asked ghandi on how he sees himself helping town, but he has yet to respond. Have you? Maybe I've been misinterpreting your question. In the brief periods of time where I haven't had to constantly defend myself, I was doing a couple other things, like looking through the forgotten lurkers like Mordek. I found some stuff, talked about it, and had a couple people agree with me. I said it wasn't anything more than a vote meant to get Mordek talking rather than distracting people or lynching people. After that though, I noticed that OWB switched his vote again. He's actually done this a large number of times day one; he's got a very fast trigger that he's been pulling. I remember saying he was a lurker, and then him immediately deflecting it by acting appalled that I'd suggest it and then snap-voting against me. He seems very eager to get on a bandwagon early, so that he can be on the train but never arouse suspicion. He never actually instigates anything, and almost never posts anything but defense (or his quick switches). That said, I'm willing to take my vote off of Mordek now. Soniv is still Scummer #1 in my book, but OWB's flipping is damn suspicious and he's also been very unproductive. Asmo too has been sketchy, though to a lesser degree. [/b]##unvote[/b] | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
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jcarlsoniv
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There would be at least one other person in the thread interested in pushing it, right? Let's assume Req is town (because this is your viewpoint). And let's assume 3 scum (that seemed to be a reasonable conclusion that we arrived at +1 3p). That means that if both Jeff and I were scum, there would be one other person in the thread on our team. This day has been the Soniv and Jeff show from the start, so would it not follow that the scum team would want to be coordinated early on to get the votes somewhere else? Ketchup and I were really the only ones pushing Req, so does that mean you think ketchup is scum? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Which is pretty much the point I made when I avoided the bandwagons so far. I'm still unsure about Req. I mean, with the new knowledge today he's potentially less trustworthy, but I have no idea how good he could be at manipulating us. And since his posting is standard Req (and I stand by this) it'd be hard to call me "playing a role" atm. Actually it could work if you said that Req has actually been feeling fine but pretending he was "pissed/sensitive Req" at least today, but because even that Req is in line with how he behaves when he does feel like that, either he's genuine, or he's really good at playing pretend. For 1) I don't believe it, 2) isn't that WIFOM territory? Req manipulating us because he's aware of how identical his posting is to how he behaves in these situations? I'm not saying he gets a free pass. I'm saying when I think about it and look at his posting, and what I [think I] know of him, I don't believe him capable of such manipulation. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 16 2014 04:57 jcarlsoniv wrote: There would be at least one other person in the thread interested in pushing it, right? Let's assume Req is town (because this is your viewpoint). And let's assume 3 scum (that seemed to be a reasonable conclusion that we arrived at +1 3p). That means that if both Jeff and I were scum, there would be one other person in the thread on our team. This day has been the Soniv and Jeff show from the start, so would it not follow that the scum team would want to be coordinated early on to get the votes somewhere else? Ketchup and I were really the only ones pushing Req, so does that mean you think ketchup is scum? What? If you're both scum then if I were the third scum the absolute last thing I would ever do is be caught trying to push somewhere else. That's terrible. | ||
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Requizen
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WaveofShadow
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On October 16 2014 04:57 jcarlsoniv wrote: There would be at least one other person in the thread interested in pushing it, right? Let's assume Req is town (because this is your viewpoint). And let's assume 3 scum (that seemed to be a reasonable conclusion that we arrived at +1 3p). That means that if both Jeff and I were scum, there would be one other person in the thread on our team. This day has been the Soniv and Jeff show from the start, so would it not follow that the scum team would want to be coordinated early on to get the votes somewhere else? Ketchup and I were really the only ones pushing Req, so does that mean you think ketchup is scum? That's one possibility. Another is that with an almost certain scum lynch today (both main suspects are scum), you all try to distance yourselves from each other. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On October 16 2014 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Soniv did you claim VT? He did not. I claim VT, Tolkien is VT, MoonBear is VT, and Wave claims VT. Just to keep track of VTs | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 16 2014 04:59 WaveofShadow wrote: What? If you're both scum then if I were the third scum the absolute last thing I would ever do is be caught trying to push somewhere else. That's terrible. At this point, yes, it would be awful. But when I had started pressuring Req, almost everyone, except for ketchup - who started pressuring Req first - wrote it off as Req being Req. Early in the day, it was not locked in that it would be me and Jeff, there was still plenty of time for things to go other ways, but your thickheadedness the entire day has kept it locked right in place. On October 16 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote: You both need to stop posting defenses and attacks of each other at this point. Right now one of you is dead and we don't know which. If you're town then what you want to do is leave behind something that will help us win the game (because you can still win after you're dead). You have 4h. I absolutely disagree that I should stop defending myself. If I get lynched, when I flip town there is more than enough in my posting history for people to work off of. I will not stop defending myself (and it's hilarious that I have to say this because there have been posts of "soniv isn't defending himself enough"). I have read "if soniv flips scum, then jeff looks bad because soniv avoided him D1". And I have read "if soniv flips town, then jeff looks bad because of the bandwagon on soniv". So why isn't the lynch going on someone who actually has a better chance of flipping scum. On October 16 2014 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Soniv did you claim VT? I have claimed nothing. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 16 2014 05:10 jcarlsoniv wrote: At this point, yes, it would be awful. But when I had started pressuring Req, almost everyone, except for ketchup - who started pressuring Req first - wrote it off as Req being Req. Early in the day, it was not locked in that it would be me and Jeff, there was still plenty of time for things to go other ways, but your thickheadedness the entire day has kept it locked right in place. I absolutely disagree that I should stop defending myself. If I get lynched, when I flip town there is more than enough in my posting history for people to work off of. I will not stop defending myself (and it's hilarious that I have to say this because there have been posts of "soniv isn't defending himself enough"). I have read "if soniv flips scum, then jeff looks bad because soniv avoided him D1". And I have read "if soniv flips town, then jeff looks bad because of the bandwagon on soniv". So why isn't the lynch going on someone who actually has a better chance of flipping scum. I have claimed nothing. I'll take the thickheadedness keeping the vote in place as a compliment.  And I don't give a shit what other people have said about your connections. If I vote you today it's because you're scum and I don't give a shit about Jeff. Defending yourself doesn't help the town win, because people aren't likely to all of a sudden wake up and say 'Oh, now i get it!' | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On October 16 2014 05:10 GhandiEAGLE wrote: He did not. I claim VT, Tolkien is VT, MoonBear is VT, and Wave claims VT. Just to keep track of VTs Not very useful, there's got to be at least 6 VTs in the game so it's not like we're catching anyone in a lie. Wave's claim was in his semi-trolly opening post too. | ||
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