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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 15 2014 18:31 GMT
#1401
I like how Soniv dodged the claim or your getting lynched questions too. Admittedly he could be in meetings but let's not forget.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 15 2014 18:34 GMT
#1402
Wave:
+ Show Spoiler +
what do you mean by "politician"? I assume it's not "pocketting people" since Asmo hasn't exactly done that (his big case on Soniv put people behind him but he didn't specifically try to get them). Trying not to get on the bad side of anyone, like when he always says "sorry" and backtracks if someone challenges him (unless he has backing already, like the Soniv case, again)?

About the bus thing, I mentioned it because it wasn't obvious to me, I thought about it a bit before but wasn't too confident in making such a call, then when I saw Asmo's post (that you noted too) it prompted me to think about it harder.
I didn't see anyone else mention it explicitly so I wanted to put it out here for everyone; when did you point it out or call it obvious?


Soniv:
+ Show Spoiler +
About the key thing, this is how I view it (from reading today's filters only):
- before Ghandi switched and I voted, it was 6-5 for you. A tie would be against Ghandi I think, haven't checked hard, but iirc owb has the oldest post, and he isn't likely to switch, so for you to die people needed to switch. ComaDose certainly won't because he seems convinced that killing Ghandi will somehow clear him (and I think however Ghandi flips there are strong arguments against him either way, part of why I don't think lynching Ghandi will produce much), Cixah and ketchup don't look like they would either (ketchup offered a hand but I dunno how firm he is).
That means that Wave, because he tends to be listened to, and because he's one of the rare people not completely set yet, has the power to either force a tie or break it (even more so had he known I'd vote against you, that was 6-6 but Ghandi switched while I typed).

As for lynching you, sure there's a risk you'll flip green.
But not only do I think it's a tiny risk, we also stand to gain much more from your flipping (whether red or green, already said I'm coming for Asmo if you flip green myself) than Ghandi's. Both your posting has been a bit poor today, but I could easily attribute that to both of you being in a kinda deadlock for more of the day; and if given more liberty, I'm much more afraid of you leading us astray than I'd be of Ghandi. Even if he's scum he doesn't push us toward wrong lynches (that pretty much everyone ignores him doesn't help).

As of now we can't know which one of you is red, or if you aren't even both red (I don't see it as likely but it's not impossible), but I'm pretty damn sure one of you has to be scum, and your flip will give us more stuff to catch the remaining 2-3.
Add to that that I won't be around for the deadline in case of last minute shenanigans/twist (if you want to claim do it in the next 4 hours), and that I didn't think the situation could change (I'll admit I'm wrong, the new mordek wagon proved that with a perfect timing, uh), and I didn't see the point to fish for "maybe scum" instead of "very probably scum + info on the others".

If you give me a better lynch? I'll bow, and I'll switch to that. But my reasoning was (and still is, unless twists like a mordek slip or something) that it's between Ghandi and you tonight, and that you are the "better" lynch.


Ghandi that's noob-claiming and we've looked at Asmo funny already for that. You're just making your situation worse, and just because I voted Soniv doesn't mean I read you as town.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 15 2014 18:36 GMT
#1403
Alaric, owb switched to me.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 15 2014 18:42 GMT
#1404
How is saying Soniv played better than me noob-claiming? He did, and I think everyone else would agree. I haven't done noob-claiming since D1, and my posting has improved greatly since then.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2014 18:52 GMT
#1405
On October 16 2014 03:34 Alaric wrote:

Soniv:
+ Show Spoiler +
About the key thing, this is how I view it (from reading today's filters only):
- before Ghandi switched and I voted, it was 6-5 for you. A tie would be against Ghandi I think, haven't checked hard, but iirc owb has the oldest post, and he isn't likely to switch, so for you to die people needed to switch. ComaDose certainly won't because he seems convinced that killing Ghandi will somehow clear him (and I think however Ghandi flips there are strong arguments against him either way, part of why I don't think lynching Ghandi will produce much), Cixah and ketchup don't look like they would either (ketchup offered a hand but I dunno how firm he is).
That means that Wave, because he tends to be listened to, and because he's one of the rare people not completely set yet, has the power to either force a tie or break it (even more so had he known I'd vote against you, that was 6-6 but Ghandi switched while I typed).

As for lynching you, sure there's a risk you'll flip green.
But not only do I think it's a tiny risk, we also stand to gain much more from your flipping (whether red or green, already said I'm coming for Asmo if you flip green myself) than Ghandi's. Both your posting has been a bit poor today, but I could easily attribute that to both of you being in a kinda deadlock for more of the day; and if given more liberty, I'm much more afraid of you leading us astray than I'd be of Ghandi. Even if he's scum he doesn't push us toward wrong lynches (that pretty much everyone ignores him doesn't help).

As of now we can't know which one of you is red, or if you aren't even both red (I don't see it as likely but it's not impossible), but I'm pretty damn sure one of you has to be scum, and your flip will give us more stuff to catch the remaining 2-3.
Add to that that I won't be around for the deadline in case of last minute shenanigans/twist (if you want to claim do it in the next 4 hours), and that I didn't think the situation could change (I'll admit I'm wrong, the new mordek wagon proved that with a perfect timing, uh), and I didn't see the point to fish for "maybe scum" instead of "very probably scum + info on the others".

If you give me a better lynch? I'll bow, and I'll switch to that. But my reasoning was (and still is, unless twists like a mordek slip or something) that it's between Ghandi and you tonight, and that you are the "better" lynch.



I'm so confused how you think my posting has been bad today. You had a town read on me D1, and my posting was so much worse D1, and I'm happy to be the first to admit that. Once again, I'm feeling like my entire play today has been largely ignored.

I have tried to hand you guys a better lynch, and it was completely passed off as everyone giving Req a pass for being Req. I also now believe that Jeff is scum (something I did not think was true D1), and I've tried to push him as well. Is this going to be the theme of the game? Every day it's going to be Jeff vs. someone that ends up flipping town, only to continue it on the next day?

You think you're going to get information from my flip, but all you'll find out is how god damn wrong you've been and how much time you've all wasted.

On October 16 2014 03:31 mordek wrote:
I like how Soniv dodged the claim or your getting lynched questions too. Admittedly he could be in meetings but let's not forget.


? What did I dodge?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 15 2014 18:53 GMT
#1406
On October 16 2014 03:07 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Oh good so basically TL;DR my reasons for everything is that I'm bad

A lot of people are newbies in this game, but you're one of the last people not actually catching on.

I don't necessarily buy that.

I was talking about that post in particular.

He hadn't by the time Wave talked about being the key, Mordek. After checking I think the tiebreaker is Asmodeus now who's as unlikely to switch (inb4 Asmo switches to you too), so the reason why Wave could claim to be the key remains, assuming we do end up deciding between Ghandi and Soniv.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 15 2014 18:57 GMT
#1407
That was probably a dramatic way of putting it but Wave said you're going to need to claim or make a big play
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#1408
On October 16 2014 03:57 mordek wrote:
That was probably a dramatic way of putting it but Wave said you're going to need to claim or make a big play


Are you talking about this?

On October 16 2014 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
If either you or soniv is 3P I suggest you claim.


To which I did not respond because I'm not 3P.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 15 2014 19:02 GMT
#1409
On October 16 2014 03:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 03:34 Alaric wrote:

Soniv:
+ Show Spoiler +
About the key thing, this is how I view it (from reading today's filters only):
- before Ghandi switched and I voted, it was 6-5 for you. A tie would be against Ghandi I think, haven't checked hard, but iirc owb has the oldest post, and he isn't likely to switch, so for you to die people needed to switch. ComaDose certainly won't because he seems convinced that killing Ghandi will somehow clear him (and I think however Ghandi flips there are strong arguments against him either way, part of why I don't think lynching Ghandi will produce much), Cixah and ketchup don't look like they would either (ketchup offered a hand but I dunno how firm he is).
That means that Wave, because he tends to be listened to, and because he's one of the rare people not completely set yet, has the power to either force a tie or break it (even more so had he known I'd vote against you, that was 6-6 but Ghandi switched while I typed).

As for lynching you, sure there's a risk you'll flip green.
But not only do I think it's a tiny risk, we also stand to gain much more from your flipping (whether red or green, already said I'm coming for Asmo if you flip green myself) than Ghandi's. Both your posting has been a bit poor today, but I could easily attribute that to both of you being in a kinda deadlock for more of the day; and if given more liberty, I'm much more afraid of you leading us astray than I'd be of Ghandi. Even if he's scum he doesn't push us toward wrong lynches (that pretty much everyone ignores him doesn't help).

As of now we can't know which one of you is red, or if you aren't even both red (I don't see it as likely but it's not impossible), but I'm pretty damn sure one of you has to be scum, and your flip will give us more stuff to catch the remaining 2-3.
Add to that that I won't be around for the deadline in case of last minute shenanigans/twist (if you want to claim do it in the next 4 hours), and that I didn't think the situation could change (I'll admit I'm wrong, the new mordek wagon proved that with a perfect timing, uh), and I didn't see the point to fish for "maybe scum" instead of "very probably scum + info on the others".

If you give me a better lynch? I'll bow, and I'll switch to that. But my reasoning was (and still is, unless twists like a mordek slip or something) that it's between Ghandi and you tonight, and that you are the "better" lynch.



I'm so confused how you think my posting has been bad today. You had a town read on me D1, and my posting was so much worse D1, and I'm happy to be the first to admit that. Once again, I'm feeling like my entire play today has been largely ignored.

I have tried to hand you guys a better lynch, and it was completely passed off as everyone giving Req a pass for being Req. I also now believe that Jeff is scum (something I did not think was true D1), and I've tried to push him as well. Is this going to be the theme of the game? Every day it's going to be Jeff vs. someone that ends up flipping town, only to continue it on the next day?

You think you're going to get information from my flip, but all you'll find out is how god damn wrong you've been and how much time you've all wasted.

Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 03:31 mordek wrote:
I like how Soniv dodged the claim or your getting lynched questions too. Admittedly he could be in meetings but let's not forget.


? What did I dodge?

I can get behind what Soniv is saying here. I've already said I think he's played better than Jeff during Day 2 so between the two I'm still going to vote Jeff. In fact
##Unvote
##Vote GhandiEAGLE

The Jeff flip will give us insight into Soniv's alignment and we can decide whether or not we trust him from there. If they are both mafia it would be a pretty masterful bus.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 15 2014 19:03 GMT
#1410
Vote Count

jcarlsoniv (5): ketchup, WaveofShadow, AsmodeusXI, mordek, Alzadar, Requizen, GhandiEAGLE, Alaric
GhandiEAGLE (5): WaveofShadow, jcarlsoniv, onlwonderboy, ComaDose, ketchup, Cixah, jcarlsoniv, WaveofShadow, onlywonderboy
mordek (2): GhandiEAGLE, WaveofShadow, onlywonderboy
ComaDose (0): jcarlsoniv, Alzadar, Requizen, Alaric
Requizen (0): jcarlsoniv, ketchup
ketchup (0): Requizen

Not voting (0): no people

Currently, jcarlsoniv is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends in

Remember that voting is mandatory.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 15 2014 19:09 GMT
#1411
One question before I decide to move off Mordek yet or not is whether or not mafia know each other from the beginning of Day 1, or if they have to wait until nightfall to know.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 15 2014 19:10 GMT
#1412
Very beginning of the game.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 15 2014 19:11 GMT
#1413
Here are a few questions that I am currently having:

Why is Wave jumping on the mordek voting that was started by someone he feels is so heavily scummy that he has been after him since day 1?

What's with the late day 2 vote switch by wave? I mean he could pressure mordek without voting for him.

What's with OWB's jump on mordek as well?

How did the mordek get three quick votes in the span of 1 hour?
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 15 2014 19:13 GMT
#1414
On October 16 2014 02:57 Requizen wrote:
I'm here.


Anything else to add?
I am the Town Medic.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#1415
On October 16 2014 04:11 ketchup wrote:
Here are a few questions that I am currently having:

Why is Wave jumping on the mordek voting that was started by someone he feels is so heavily scummy that he has been after him since day 1?

What's with the late day 2 vote switch by wave? I mean he could pressure mordek without voting for him.

What's with OWB's jump on mordek as well?

How did the mordek get three quick votes in the span of 1 hour?

I agreed with Wave's post that some of his posts were suspicious and I wanted to get him more active, which worked.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 15 2014 19:15 GMT
#1416
On October 16 2014 04:13 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 02:57 Requizen wrote:
I'm here.


Anything else to add?

Trying to read. All our sites went down. Work is more important than this.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 15 2014 19:16 GMT
#1417
On October 16 2014 04:11 ketchup wrote:
Here are a few questions that I am currently having:

Why is Wave jumping on the mordek voting that was started by someone he feels is so heavily scummy that he has been after him since day 1?

What's with the late day 2 vote switch by wave? I mean he could pressure mordek without voting for him.

What's with OWB's jump on mordek as well?

How did the mordek get three quick votes in the span of 1 hour?


Seems like more of a pressure vote by all of them, mordek hadn't been around much in awhile, start putting his name on the lynch list and lo and behold he shows his face and makes a big post. This doesn't incriminate him necessarily: scum and townie alike are prodded by being voted at.
I am the Town Medic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 15 2014 19:39 GMT
#1418
Eh, I don't think people understand the meaning or use of a pressure vote. Oh well.

##unvote

Vote/read on mordek was never real tbh, but I wanted to see who I could make do stuff. Only person to jump was owb, though that's pretty interesting sine he's been doing it alllllllll game.

On October 16 2014 04:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 03:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 16 2014 03:34 Alaric wrote:

Soniv:
+ Show Spoiler +
About the key thing, this is how I view it (from reading today's filters only):
- before Ghandi switched and I voted, it was 6-5 for you. A tie would be against Ghandi I think, haven't checked hard, but iirc owb has the oldest post, and he isn't likely to switch, so for you to die people needed to switch. ComaDose certainly won't because he seems convinced that killing Ghandi will somehow clear him (and I think however Ghandi flips there are strong arguments against him either way, part of why I don't think lynching Ghandi will produce much), Cixah and ketchup don't look like they would either (ketchup offered a hand but I dunno how firm he is).
That means that Wave, because he tends to be listened to, and because he's one of the rare people not completely set yet, has the power to either force a tie or break it (even more so had he known I'd vote against you, that was 6-6 but Ghandi switched while I typed).

As for lynching you, sure there's a risk you'll flip green.
But not only do I think it's a tiny risk, we also stand to gain much more from your flipping (whether red or green, already said I'm coming for Asmo if you flip green myself) than Ghandi's. Both your posting has been a bit poor today, but I could easily attribute that to both of you being in a kinda deadlock for more of the day; and if given more liberty, I'm much more afraid of you leading us astray than I'd be of Ghandi. Even if he's scum he doesn't push us toward wrong lynches (that pretty much everyone ignores him doesn't help).

As of now we can't know which one of you is red, or if you aren't even both red (I don't see it as likely but it's not impossible), but I'm pretty damn sure one of you has to be scum, and your flip will give us more stuff to catch the remaining 2-3.
Add to that that I won't be around for the deadline in case of last minute shenanigans/twist (if you want to claim do it in the next 4 hours), and that I didn't think the situation could change (I'll admit I'm wrong, the new mordek wagon proved that with a perfect timing, uh), and I didn't see the point to fish for "maybe scum" instead of "very probably scum + info on the others".

If you give me a better lynch? I'll bow, and I'll switch to that. But my reasoning was (and still is, unless twists like a mordek slip or something) that it's between Ghandi and you tonight, and that you are the "better" lynch.



I'm so confused how you think my posting has been bad today. You had a town read on me D1, and my posting was so much worse D1, and I'm happy to be the first to admit that. Once again, I'm feeling like my entire play today has been largely ignored.

I have tried to hand you guys a better lynch, and it was completely passed off as everyone giving Req a pass for being Req. I also now believe that Jeff is scum (something I did not think was true D1), and I've tried to push him as well. Is this going to be the theme of the game? Every day it's going to be Jeff vs. someone that ends up flipping town, only to continue it on the next day?

You think you're going to get information from my flip, but all you'll find out is how god damn wrong you've been and how much time you've all wasted.

On October 16 2014 03:31 mordek wrote:
I like how Soniv dodged the claim or your getting lynched questions too. Admittedly he could be in meetings but let's not forget.


? What did I dodge?

I can get behind what Soniv is saying here. I've already said I think he's played better than Jeff during Day 2 so between the two I'm still going to vote Jeff. In fact
##Unvote
##Vote GhandiEAGLE

The Jeff flip will give us insight into Soniv's alignment and we can decide whether or not we trust him from there. If they are both mafia it would be a pretty masterful bus.

This is pretty untrue.

ketchup, what do you think? Who should it be today?
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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 15 2014 19:41 GMT
#1419
On October 16 2014 04:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Eh, I don't think people understand the meaning or use of a pressure vote. Oh well.

##unvote

Vote/read on mordek was never real tbh, but I wanted to see who I could make do stuff. Only person to jump was owb, though that's pretty interesting sine he's been doing it alllllllll game.

Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 04:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 16 2014 03:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 16 2014 03:34 Alaric wrote:

Soniv:
+ Show Spoiler +
About the key thing, this is how I view it (from reading today's filters only):
- before Ghandi switched and I voted, it was 6-5 for you. A tie would be against Ghandi I think, haven't checked hard, but iirc owb has the oldest post, and he isn't likely to switch, so for you to die people needed to switch. ComaDose certainly won't because he seems convinced that killing Ghandi will somehow clear him (and I think however Ghandi flips there are strong arguments against him either way, part of why I don't think lynching Ghandi will produce much), Cixah and ketchup don't look like they would either (ketchup offered a hand but I dunno how firm he is).
That means that Wave, because he tends to be listened to, and because he's one of the rare people not completely set yet, has the power to either force a tie or break it (even more so had he known I'd vote against you, that was 6-6 but Ghandi switched while I typed).

As for lynching you, sure there's a risk you'll flip green.
But not only do I think it's a tiny risk, we also stand to gain much more from your flipping (whether red or green, already said I'm coming for Asmo if you flip green myself) than Ghandi's. Both your posting has been a bit poor today, but I could easily attribute that to both of you being in a kinda deadlock for more of the day; and if given more liberty, I'm much more afraid of you leading us astray than I'd be of Ghandi. Even if he's scum he doesn't push us toward wrong lynches (that pretty much everyone ignores him doesn't help).

As of now we can't know which one of you is red, or if you aren't even both red (I don't see it as likely but it's not impossible), but I'm pretty damn sure one of you has to be scum, and your flip will give us more stuff to catch the remaining 2-3.
Add to that that I won't be around for the deadline in case of last minute shenanigans/twist (if you want to claim do it in the next 4 hours), and that I didn't think the situation could change (I'll admit I'm wrong, the new mordek wagon proved that with a perfect timing, uh), and I didn't see the point to fish for "maybe scum" instead of "very probably scum + info on the others".

If you give me a better lynch? I'll bow, and I'll switch to that. But my reasoning was (and still is, unless twists like a mordek slip or something) that it's between Ghandi and you tonight, and that you are the "better" lynch.



I'm so confused how you think my posting has been bad today. You had a town read on me D1, and my posting was so much worse D1, and I'm happy to be the first to admit that. Once again, I'm feeling like my entire play today has been largely ignored.

I have tried to hand you guys a better lynch, and it was completely passed off as everyone giving Req a pass for being Req. I also now believe that Jeff is scum (something I did not think was true D1), and I've tried to push him as well. Is this going to be the theme of the game? Every day it's going to be Jeff vs. someone that ends up flipping town, only to continue it on the next day?

You think you're going to get information from my flip, but all you'll find out is how god damn wrong you've been and how much time you've all wasted.

On October 16 2014 03:31 mordek wrote:
I like how Soniv dodged the claim or your getting lynched questions too. Admittedly he could be in meetings but let's not forget.


? What did I dodge?

I can get behind what Soniv is saying here. I've already said I think he's played better than Jeff during Day 2 so between the two I'm still going to vote Jeff. In fact
##Unvote
##Vote GhandiEAGLE

The Jeff flip will give us insight into Soniv's alignment and we can decide whether or not we trust him from there. If they are both mafia it would be a pretty masterful bus.

This is pretty untrue.

ketchup, what do you think? Who should it be today?


I kept my vote where it should be today. I think soniv is helpful while ghandi is not.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
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October 15 2014 19:42 GMT
#1420
On October 16 2014 04:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Eh, I don't think people understand the meaning or use of a pressure vote. Oh well.

##unvote

Vote/read on mordek was never real tbh, but I wanted to see who I could make do stuff. Only person to jump was owb, though that's pretty interesting sine he's been doing it alllllllll game.

Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 04:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 16 2014 03:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 16 2014 03:34 Alaric wrote:

Soniv:
+ Show Spoiler +
About the key thing, this is how I view it (from reading today's filters only):
- before Ghandi switched and I voted, it was 6-5 for you. A tie would be against Ghandi I think, haven't checked hard, but iirc owb has the oldest post, and he isn't likely to switch, so for you to die people needed to switch. ComaDose certainly won't because he seems convinced that killing Ghandi will somehow clear him (and I think however Ghandi flips there are strong arguments against him either way, part of why I don't think lynching Ghandi will produce much), Cixah and ketchup don't look like they would either (ketchup offered a hand but I dunno how firm he is).
That means that Wave, because he tends to be listened to, and because he's one of the rare people not completely set yet, has the power to either force a tie or break it (even more so had he known I'd vote against you, that was 6-6 but Ghandi switched while I typed).

As for lynching you, sure there's a risk you'll flip green.
But not only do I think it's a tiny risk, we also stand to gain much more from your flipping (whether red or green, already said I'm coming for Asmo if you flip green myself) than Ghandi's. Both your posting has been a bit poor today, but I could easily attribute that to both of you being in a kinda deadlock for more of the day; and if given more liberty, I'm much more afraid of you leading us astray than I'd be of Ghandi. Even if he's scum he doesn't push us toward wrong lynches (that pretty much everyone ignores him doesn't help).

As of now we can't know which one of you is red, or if you aren't even both red (I don't see it as likely but it's not impossible), but I'm pretty damn sure one of you has to be scum, and your flip will give us more stuff to catch the remaining 2-3.
Add to that that I won't be around for the deadline in case of last minute shenanigans/twist (if you want to claim do it in the next 4 hours), and that I didn't think the situation could change (I'll admit I'm wrong, the new mordek wagon proved that with a perfect timing, uh), and I didn't see the point to fish for "maybe scum" instead of "very probably scum + info on the others".

If you give me a better lynch? I'll bow, and I'll switch to that. But my reasoning was (and still is, unless twists like a mordek slip or something) that it's between Ghandi and you tonight, and that you are the "better" lynch.



I'm so confused how you think my posting has been bad today. You had a town read on me D1, and my posting was so much worse D1, and I'm happy to be the first to admit that. Once again, I'm feeling like my entire play today has been largely ignored.

I have tried to hand you guys a better lynch, and it was completely passed off as everyone giving Req a pass for being Req. I also now believe that Jeff is scum (something I did not think was true D1), and I've tried to push him as well. Is this going to be the theme of the game? Every day it's going to be Jeff vs. someone that ends up flipping town, only to continue it on the next day?

You think you're going to get information from my flip, but all you'll find out is how god damn wrong you've been and how much time you've all wasted.

On October 16 2014 03:31 mordek wrote:
I like how Soniv dodged the claim or your getting lynched questions too. Admittedly he could be in meetings but let's not forget.


? What did I dodge?

I can get behind what Soniv is saying here. I've already said I think he's played better than Jeff during Day 2 so between the two I'm still going to vote Jeff. In fact
##Unvote
##Vote GhandiEAGLE

The Jeff flip will give us insight into Soniv's alignment and we can decide whether or not we trust him from there. If they are both mafia it would be a pretty masterful bus.

This is pretty untrue.

ketchup, what do you think? Who should it be today?

That it won't give us insight or that the bus would be a pretty good scum play?
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