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On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament.
Bomber is #4 because he actually has results against those GSL players while Polt and MC have not had good results in quite a while.
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On October 03 2014 07:59 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament. Yeah i was surprised that MC was not top 4/5 :/ I wonder if those loses against Hyun, First, Stardust, Patience, SpaceMarine or Targa have any link with him not being top10 though :/ I mean, he won against CPU, Maddelisk, Stahlbolzen, Nightend and Namshar !
Stahlbolzen would be on my Top 10 list, but oh well
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On October 03 2014 07:58 Walnuts wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament. Which is why neither Polt nor MC are on the list- neither of them are as good as the GSL players you listed.
It is true though that the Power Ranks are heavily biased towards stuff that happens in Korea, while usually they don't do any better oversea. PR is based on assuming B-Teamers are being better then Foreigners. Since those that get slaughtered by the top Koreans usually never meet, to see who really has the stronger opponents.
Its fun that way though, since it means that someone that doesn't attend GSL or ProLeague and makes it into the Power Rank was a true badass that month. While the rest is a good indication of who does well in Korea currently.
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special mentions to Life and Maru?
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On October 03 2014 09:30 Greenei wrote:
My powerrank without looking:
1. Zest
2. soO
3. Innovation
4. Bomber
5. her0
6. Cure
7. Solar
8. Rain
9. Flash
10. Stats
I guess I approve of OP's Power Rank. It will probably be less controversial than the last one, because it is not bad like the last one was.
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On October 03 2014 09:33 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 07:58 Walnuts wrote:On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament. Which is why neither Polt nor MC are on the list- neither of them are as good as the GSL players you listed. It is true though that the Power Ranks are heavily biased towards stuff that happens in Korea, while usually they don't do any better oversea. PR is based on assuming B-Teamers are being better then Foreigners. Since those that get slaughtered by the top Koreans usually never meet, to see who really has the stronger opponents. Its fun that way though, since it means that someone that doesn't attend GSL or ProLeague and makes it into the Power Rank was a true badass that month. While the rest is a good indication of who does well in Korea currently.
Korea is the hardest region, if you really wanna deny that, gl !
Also: the last two "foreign" premier tournaments where you had a really competitive lineup had Kespa vs Kespa (aka korean koreans ^^) finals.
Let's be real for a moment 
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On October 03 2014 09:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 09:33 FeyFey wrote:On October 03 2014 07:58 Walnuts wrote:On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament. Which is why neither Polt nor MC are on the list- neither of them are as good as the GSL players you listed. It is true though that the Power Ranks are heavily biased towards stuff that happens in Korea, while usually they don't do any better oversea. PR is based on assuming B-Teamers are being better then Foreigners. Since those that get slaughtered by the top Koreans usually never meet, to see who really has the stronger opponents. Its fun that way though, since it means that someone that doesn't attend GSL or ProLeague and makes it into the Power Rank was a true badass that month. While the rest is a good indication of who does well in Korea currently. Korea is the hardest region, if you really wanna deny that, gl ! Also: the last two "foreign" premier tournaments where you had a really competitive lineup had Kespa vs Kespa (aka korean koreans ^^) finals. Let's be real for a moment
Bomber vs Cure though.
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Glad Zest is #1. If there's one word to describe him, it's consistency.
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On October 03 2014 09:55 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 09:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2014 09:33 FeyFey wrote:On October 03 2014 07:58 Walnuts wrote:On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament. Which is why neither Polt nor MC are on the list- neither of them are as good as the GSL players you listed. It is true though that the Power Ranks are heavily biased towards stuff that happens in Korea, while usually they don't do any better oversea. PR is based on assuming B-Teamers are being better then Foreigners. Since those that get slaughtered by the top Koreans usually never meet, to see who really has the stronger opponents. Its fun that way though, since it means that someone that doesn't attend GSL or ProLeague and makes it into the Power Rank was a true badass that month. While the rest is a good indication of who does well in Korea currently. Korea is the hardest region, if you really wanna deny that, gl ! Also: the last two "foreign" premier tournaments where you had a really competitive lineup had Kespa vs Kespa (aka korean koreans ^^) finals. Let's be real for a moment Bomber vs Cure though.
Well i didn't count redbull cause there were only 8 players.
But even then that would be one out of three (and still a "korean korean" in the final)
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INno and Taea's highs are both 1.
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watcha gonna do when Hukamania runs wild on you brother???
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I don't really get why Solar beats Cure. Cure comes second place in a foreign event (which he had to qualify for) vs solar coming first in a less stacked foreign event (which he just entered in r2). Meanwhile Cure is GSL Semifinal barely missing out to Innovation after smashing Solar in the QFs. Surely GSL should be rated higher than a foreign event? Also, just in terms of how they've been playing, Cure's looked much better.
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OHH YEAH BOMBER!
Bomber's high is #1 btw. It was the power rank right after season 2 finals last year.
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Canada11355 Posts
I actually laughed heartily when I saw soO's name at #2. Poor soO, never #1
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On October 03 2014 10:52 Yonnua wrote:
I don't really get why Solar beats Cure. Cure comes second place in a foreign event (which he had to qualify for) vs solar coming first in a less stacked foreign event (which he just entered in r2). Meanwhile Cure is GSL Semifinal barely missing out to Innovation after smashing Solar in the QFs. Surely GSL should be rated higher than a foreign event? Also, just in terms of how they've been playing, Cure's looked much better.
Honestly I think Cure is too high ranked. He has 3 bo3 losses in a row to protosses outside top 10. I would penalize that much higher than OP did, and would put Her0 above both Solar, Cure and Flash.
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On October 03 2014 11:31 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:52 Yonnua wrote:
I don't really get why Solar beats Cure. Cure comes second place in a foreign event (which he had to qualify for) vs solar coming first in a less stacked foreign event (which he just entered in r2). Meanwhile Cure is GSL Semifinal barely missing out to Innovation after smashing Solar in the QFs. Surely GSL should be rated higher than a foreign event? Also, just in terms of how they've been playing, Cure's looked much better. Honestly I think Cure is too high ranked. He has 3 bo3 losses in a row to protosses outside top 10. I would penalize that much higher than OP did, and would put Her0 above both Solar, Cure and Flash.
Don't you mean the superior herO, killer of Flash?
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United States97274 Posts
why would you put herO over Solar? herO got a 2nd place in a tournament and then lost to Solar in the tournament Solar won. Solar made Ro8 GSL. I don't think it's unreasonable for Solar to be ahead of herO
the one tournament herO got far in he was invited to based off results well before this month. Solar lost in the final of the qualifier by 1 map
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On October 03 2014 09:56 Dreamer.T wrote:
Glad Zest is #1. If there's one word to describe him, it's consistency.
I dont mean to be a complete ass by starting an argument, but Zest was only consistent in 2014 (NEVER HEARD OF HIM IN 2012-2013 when other KeSPA ppl like Rain, Soulkey, INnoVation Dear have been winning things).
yes and I know Zest has beaten all the players I listed above, but still, his results last year and 2012, were not even 'inconsistent', he just wasnt worth mentioning in 2012 and 2013
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On October 03 2014 11:31 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:52 Yonnua wrote:
I don't really get why Solar beats Cure. Cure comes second place in a foreign event (which he had to qualify for) vs solar coming first in a less stacked foreign event (which he just entered in r2). Meanwhile Cure is GSL Semifinal barely missing out to Innovation after smashing Solar in the QFs. Surely GSL should be rated higher than a foreign event? Also, just in terms of how they've been playing, Cure's looked much better. Honestly I think Cure is too high ranked. He has 3 bo3 losses in a row to protosses outside top 10. I would penalize that much higher than OP did, and would put Her0 above both Solar, Cure and Flash.
Solar lost 2-1 to a player I've never even heard of called "Gamja" in the RBBG qualifiers that Cure smashed his way though. There's no logic to Solar > Cure.
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EPT
