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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 05 2014 00:13 CNSnow wrote:People are arguing whether we should count wins only or general performance. As far as I see, Maru was kicked out because he didn't won his matches but there is that statement about TeaJa, written on the power rank: Show nested quote +Three series in all of September isn't enough for me to kick Taeja out of the Power Rank And I think that Teaja is there only because he is in TL. Well, if Teaja was that good, then he will be playing in Code S and not barely making it to Ro32 of WCS AM. If you want to make a PR based only on results then don't be (positively) biased with any TL gamer. All in all I would like to see a more general PR based on performance and not only on wins in a Bo3 or Bo5.
What if I told you that I am unaffiliated with Team Liquid the SC2 team and that I don't particularly like the players on TeamLiquid?
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All in all I would like to see a more general PR based on performance and not only on wins in a Bo3 or Bo5.
Here you go:
1) HyuN
2) Zest
3) MC
4) Polt
5) San
6) TaeJa
7) Bomber
8) StarDust
9) soO
10) jjakji
Source: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings
Comparing performances between strong players makes a lot of sense. Solar is a great example. He's had two big tournament results against a very deep field, but he got some rather easy match-ups. Both times, he had an easy group and still only placed 2nd in his group, and he got very lucky at Shenzhen when Jim beat San (who has a weak PvP but the best PvZ in the world). They're giving an unfair advantage to the Koreans vs the Americans and Europeans by using GSL results but ignoring WCS America/Europe results (unless somebody loses of course) but thems the breaks.
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Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A power ranking that I can agree with, except for #4 and #10.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 05 2014 03:05 usopsama wrote:
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A power ranking that I can agree with, except for #4 and #10.
Too high or too low?
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Great list. I guess TaeJa probably doesn't deserve to be there, as much as I like him and think he's incredible at his best, but yeh.
Love Maru too but I agree that he doesn't deserve to be there, and Flash is too high for my liking.
Everything else is great. Bomber FTW!!
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On October 05 2014 03:38 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2014 03:05 usopsama wrote:
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A power ranking that I can agree with, except for #4 and #10. Too high or too low?
Shouldn't be there at all. 
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On October 05 2014 06:09 usopsama wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2014 03:38 Zealously wrote:On October 05 2014 03:05 usopsama wrote:
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A power ranking that I can agree with, except for #4 and #10. Too high or too low? Shouldn't be there at all.
Same with #7
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On October 05 2014 06:09 usopsama wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2014 03:38 Zealously wrote:On October 05 2014 03:05 usopsama wrote:
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A power ranking that I can agree with, except for #4 and #10. Too high or too low? Shouldn't be there at all.
So you think, that Bomber, who defeated Rain relatively safely and stomped Cure into the ground without any problem should be ranked lower than both of them?
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On October 05 2014 06:12 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2014 06:09 usopsama wrote:On October 05 2014 03:38 Zealously wrote:On October 05 2014 03:05 usopsama wrote:
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A power ranking that I can agree with, except for #4 and #10. Too high or too low? Shouldn't be there at all. So you think, that Bomber, who defeated Rain relatively safely and stomped Cure into the ground without any problem should be ranked lower than both of them?
Was bored enough to look at some of his posting history, total kespa fanboy/troll (i still really don't understand this). But I guess this was obvious anyways 
Obviously Bomber should be on the rankings.
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Northern Ireland26505 Posts
You've pretty much got to be a rabid anti-fan or an idiot to not give Bomber a slot somewhere in this month's ranking
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Still absurd that Flash is even in it, but at least it is getting better in this respect. Shame that it is so strictly bounded by the arbitrary boundary of a month, because the GSL finals have made soO look like a gold league scrub, definitely not the 2nd best player.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
you're all silly for replying to usopsama. he's just obliged not to like non kespa players. you know, because opinions.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On October 05 2014 17:16 lichter wrote:
you're all silly for replying to usopsama. he's just obliged not to like non kespa players. you know, because opinions.
KESPAAAAAAAAAAA
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 05 2014 17:03 opisska wrote:
Still absurd that Flash is even in it, but at least it is getting better in this respect. Shame that it is so strictly bounded by the arbitrary boundary of a month, because the GSL finals have made soO look like a gold league scrub, definitely not the 2nd best player.
soO is the 2nd best player (or even the best) as long as he isn't playing in the finals!
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So will soO now have a permanent 2nd place in any upcoming power ranks or will you wait for his 2nd place finish at Blizzcon to make that decision?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 05 2014 20:21 sigm wrote:
So will soO now have a permanent 2nd place in any upcoming power ranks or will you wait for his 2nd place finish at Blizzcon to make that decision?
I'm actually just going to put a silvery background behind his section in every upcoming PR
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On October 05 2014 19:35 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2014 17:03 opisska wrote:
Still absurd that Flash is even in it, but at least it is getting better in this respect. Shame that it is so strictly bounded by the arbitrary boundary of a month, because the GSL finals have made soO look like a gold league scrub, definitely not the 2nd best player. soO is the 2nd best player (or even the best) as long as he isn't playing in the finals!
While I get that the extraordinary sequence of second places it makes a nice running joke, you have to admit that he got quite rolled by Innovation - so much that it's hard to put it as just "too anxious in finals" or whatever. Yes, inno lost the roach-bane games, but that was kind of expected. At any point where something vaguely resembling a normal game was played, soO was looking heavily outclassed (and I say that as someone who has been silenty hating innovation for two years already). But on the other hand, the 2nd place is an impressive feat in itself and I always say that the closest thing to a real comparison of players is the result list of the last GSL, so why not.
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On October 05 2014 22:33 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2014 19:35 Zealously wrote:On October 05 2014 17:03 opisska wrote:
Still absurd that Flash is even in it, but at least it is getting better in this respect. Shame that it is so strictly bounded by the arbitrary boundary of a month, because the GSL finals have made soO look like a gold league scrub, definitely not the 2nd best player. soO is the 2nd best player (or even the best) as long as he isn't playing in the finals! While I get that the extraordinary sequence of second places it makes a nice running joke, you have to admit that he got quite rolled by Innovation - so much that it's hard to put it as just "too anxious in finals" or whatever. Yes, inno lost the roach-bane games, but that was kind of expected. At any point where something vaguely resembling a normal game was played, soO was looking heavily outclassed (and I say that as someone who has been silenty hating innovation for two years already). But on the other hand, the 2nd place is an impressive feat in itself and I always say that the closest thing to a real comparison of players is the result list of the last GSL, so why not.
the last game was the only "normal game"
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i like how flash is still in the top 10 tho he is doing pretty bad lately...
So much Hype
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