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your Country52797 Posts
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Wtf SKT just went from powerhouse to noob
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On September 11 2014 23:17 SAFenix wrote: Wtf SKT just went from powerhouse to noob They were pretty top-heavy and still have Classic, soO, and Soulkey.
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Well, I'm sorry, but this might be my fault. After all these years as SKT1 fan, I somehow realized that I don't have much passion for the team anymore (Boxer and Bisu not with team anymore, Fanta not doing well). Even in last proleague finals, I cheered for KT, especially Flash.
Yesterday, I felt it is time to switch my favourite team in my TL profile to KT. Today I wake up and this happens. Coincidence
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On September 11 2014 22:57 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 22:33 Squat wrote:On September 11 2014 22:28 thezanursic wrote: Would be so happy if Fantasy were like "fuck it, this game clearly isn't for me" went on to play Love.tv S3 and win the 30k!
I find Fantasy's story to be so sad. The last 4-5 months of televised BW he was without a question THE best player, better than Flash and although he bombed out in the Tving OSL finals he would have clearly enjoyed much success if SC2 switch hadn't happened. Jangbi was pretty much the undisputed numero uno at the tail end of BW. Fantasy was definitely the second best though. Not sure why he's stuck with Sc2 for so long, even though his results have been, at best, mediocre. I'd love to see him back in BW at this point. Are you shitting me. Winning the finals doesn't mean Jangbi was better. Jangbi was a good player, but he was not nearly as good as Fantasy. Fantasy choked in the finals. Jangbi in reality should have lost versus Zero in the semifinals, but Zero choked to... Jangbi... Was always so inconsistent. I know that statistics aren't everything, but still http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=6&part=games&vs=all&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2012&to_month=9&to_day=7&action=Update http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=63&part=games&vs=all&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2014&to_month=2&to_day=23&action=UpdateFantasy 2012 - 28 wins - 7 losses (80.00%) Jangbi 2012 - 22 wins - 16 losses (57.89%) And that's just the statistics when you look at fantasy's play it makes it all the more clear. Fantasy. was. the. best. player. See Fantasy vs Flash SPL 2012 finals Jangbi was good, but he in all truth was very lucky to make it to the finals of the last OSL and actually win it. Zero had to choke, Fantasy had to choke, fine he won, it still doesn't make him the best. It's really easy to look at who won a certain finals and just bend the narrative to "he was the best player" when there were other factors in play and also I'm not saying that Jangbi won by luck in the Tving finals, he played better than Fantasy, but that's because Fantasy choked and didn't play like he had throughout 2012. He won the last two OSLs, that's not luck and that's not from opponents choking. He won because he was better. Jangbi was the best player for the last year of BW, in the games where it actually mattered.
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At least now Fnatasy is streaming and Parting tweeted about setting up his own stream. Niiiiiiice
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What The F. Did not see this coming at all! Lots of changes coming, it'll be good for SC2 scene overall I think. Imagine them playing in WCS NA. It'll be "sick" as Rotty would say.
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That is insanely surprising. Wowow.
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SKTINnoVation, SKTPigBaby, SKTNestea incoming :D
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On September 11 2014 23:31 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 22:57 thezanursic wrote:On September 11 2014 22:33 Squat wrote:On September 11 2014 22:28 thezanursic wrote: Would be so happy if Fantasy were like "fuck it, this game clearly isn't for me" went on to play Love.tv S3 and win the 30k!
I find Fantasy's story to be so sad. The last 4-5 months of televised BW he was without a question THE best player, better than Flash and although he bombed out in the Tving OSL finals he would have clearly enjoyed much success if SC2 switch hadn't happened. Jangbi was pretty much the undisputed numero uno at the tail end of BW. Fantasy was definitely the second best though. Not sure why he's stuck with Sc2 for so long, even though his results have been, at best, mediocre. I'd love to see him back in BW at this point. Are you shitting me. Winning the finals doesn't mean Jangbi was better. Jangbi was a good player, but he was not nearly as good as Fantasy. Fantasy choked in the finals. Jangbi in reality should have lost versus Zero in the semifinals, but Zero choked to... Jangbi... Was always so inconsistent. I know that statistics aren't everything, but still http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=6&part=games&vs=all&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2012&to_month=9&to_day=7&action=Update http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=63&part=games&vs=all&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2014&to_month=2&to_day=23&action=UpdateFantasy 2012 - 28 wins - 7 losses (80.00%) Jangbi 2012 - 22 wins - 16 losses (57.89%) And that's just the statistics when you look at fantasy's play it makes it all the more clear. Fantasy. was. the. best. player. See Fantasy vs Flash SPL 2012 finals Jangbi was good, but he in all truth was very lucky to make it to the finals of the last OSL and actually win it. Zero had to choke, Fantasy had to choke, fine he won, it still doesn't make him the best. It's really easy to look at who won a certain finals and just bend the narrative to "he was the best player" when there were other factors in play and also I'm not saying that Jangbi won by luck in the Tving finals, he played better than Fantasy, but that's because Fantasy choked and didn't play like he had throughout 2012. He won the last two OSLs, that's not luck and that's not from opponents choking. He won because he was better. Jangbi was the best player for the last year of BW, in the games where it actually mattered. Yeah, unlike Fantasy Jangbi doesn't choke in games where it really matters, hence he is the better player.
Also, I don't Fantasy really choked in the last finals. It looked more like Jangbi dismantling him with well prepared builds.
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And SKT still has Soulkey, soO, Classic, and the deep as hell roster.
Damn, huge news
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Funny thing is that with Parting and Rain leaving, Fantasy could probably have secured himself a regular spot on the PL roster TT
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Bisutopia19143 Posts
At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
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On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about. You mean like KT? They are pretty cool.
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I think this is partly SKT's fault for not sending their players overseas more. Proleague was Bo5 for most of the year and they had 7 players in Code S. They should've easily been able to send 2 players to foreign tournaments.
I would find it amusing if Blizzard's region lock backfires. All the mediocre Koreans go back to Korea. They will be replaced by better Koreans who foreign teams are willing to sponsor visas for.
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On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
Join me in supporting Woongjin Stars!
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On September 11 2014 23:59 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about. You mean like KT? They are pretty cool. I think that's the only team that would be a complete sell out. Also, you have a teammate that removed his chin. That's pretty creepy.
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On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about. Come to KT, i mean Zest is more handsome than Bisu anyway.
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