SK Telecom T1 is set to part ways with Rain, PartinG, and Fantasy. According to press materials from SK Telecom, the contracts of the players will end on the 30th of this month. The three players declined to re-sign with SK Telecom.
Rain expressed a desire to compete on a foreign team; Fantasy also said he was looking for new experiences.
DailyEsports also conducted an interview with PartinG about his motivations for leaving SK Telecom T1: " I miss the passion from the foreign fans who used to cheer for me."
On September 11 2014 16:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So is SKT alright financially? They just dropped two of their best players just months after getting 2nd in Proleague. This is a very bad sign.
SKT should be by all means the most wealthy team in proleague...
On September 11 2014 16:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So is SKT alright financially? They just dropped two of their best players just months after getting 2nd in Proleague. This is a very bad sign.
Says that the players declined re-signing, not that SKT booted them, right?
On September 11 2014 16:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So is SKT alright financially? They just dropped two of their best players just months after getting 2nd in Proleague. This is a very bad sign.
Says that the players declined re-signing, not that SKT booted them, right?
Maybe even the top tier players feel it's too crowded. I wouldn't blame them.
The only explanation I can think of is salary disputes. Which brings up the question of what Fantasy was thinking. Rain and Parting, they may very well have demanded more money than SKT was willing to give them.
i think that it's those players who want to play out of korea? i'm guessing they'll have to sign with euro teams, get euro visas and compete in the euro scene? i'm guessing? speculation? we need more information this is nuts lawl
(personally i hope they join foreign teams and wreck the foreign scene againà
On September 11 2014 16:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So is SKT alright financially? They just dropped two of their best players just months after getting 2nd in Proleague. This is a very bad sign.
Says that the players declined re-signing, not that SKT booted them, right?
Maybe even the top tier players feel it's too crowded. I wouldn't blame them.
I can understand Parting if so is the case but Rain was rock solid as the #1 SKT-choice.
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
DPRain & DPartinG inc
deadpixels confirmed new bonjwa level team with inno joining as well
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
Prime has their arms wide open
Prime has their empty wallet wide open as well
Prime got players salaries for the first time in always, they are richer than ever
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
Prime has their arms wide open
Prime has their empty wallet wide open as well
Prime got players salaries for the first time in always, they are richer than ever
You're telling me MKP signed with MVP cause of passion? wow.
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
Prime has their arms wide open
Prime has their empty wallet wide open as well
Prime got players salaries for the first time in always, they are richer than ever
You're telling me MKP signed with MVP cause of passion? wow.
On September 11 2014 16:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Well, the more I think about it, with soO, Soulkey and Classic plus almost certainly Innovation now, they are still a playoff team.
Translation came in from the LR, said that the players are using the whole "foreign experiences" line. Which I'm pretty sure at this point is code for "They weren't offering enough money."
Hey guys, I posted this in the LR thread but feels like I should probably post it here too:
Quick translation:
SKT1 parts with Rain, Parting and Fantasy
SKT1 has revealed through a press release that they have released Rain, Parting and Fantasy, who were previously pillars of their team.
Fantasy, who debuted in 2007, stated that he wanted to have a wider range of experiences and face new challenges and decided not to re-sign with the team. Similarly, Rain expressed his desire to experience life overseas as a player and decided not to re-sigh. Parting, who joined the team last year, also expressed similar desires of wanting to join a foreign team, and decided not to re-sign with SKT1
SKT Head Office stated "We want to thank these players who showed top quality play during their long time at SKT1, and we will be cheering for them in future tournaments."
On September 11 2014 16:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Well, the more I think about it, with soO, Soulkey and Classic plus almost certainly Innovation now, they are still a playoff team.
Yeah, I'm not really worried about SKT, they still got 4 strong players and overall a good bench.
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
how so? Rain is the more succesful player as of late
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
Prime has their arms wide open
Prime has their empty wallet wide open as well
Prime got players salaries for the first time in always, they are richer than ever
You're telling me MKP signed with MVP cause of passion? wow.
I wonder what the reason could be? Rain being the biggest shocker, I mean certainly SKT had enough money to retain him? What happened during negotiations?
Guess Bogus to SKT now that he has returned from foreign team.
This is really mistirious. I mean Rain is doing just soooo well atm, i can't see any good reasson except the non-particitipation in foreing tournaments from SKT so far, so i guess he wants to play at some world wide tournies.
Liquid is going for the epic move of the year. They come to an agreement with DeadPixels.
Thet sign Innovation, Rain, Parting, Fantasy, Taeja becomes plYer/coach, they open a teamhouse in Korea and all of a sudden are THE topdog in the scene. Makes sense!
Parting doesn't seem like a Liquid player. He's more of an EG type. On the other hand, Rain would be a perfect fit on Liquid. As for Fantasy, well Taeja is retiring at the end of the year so...
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
Prime has their arms wide open
Prime has their empty wallet wide open as well
Prime got players salaries for the first time in always, they are richer than ever
You're telling me MKP signed with MVP cause of passion? wow.
On September 11 2014 16:25 stuchiu wrote: No one wants to stay in Korea. Completely understandable.
How ironic it would be if more Koreans than ever leave for WCS EU and AM, completely backfiring the region-lock idea.
Region lock forces people without visas to stay in Korea. Makes it more competitive, thus enticing players who can get visas to exit. Cyclic backfiring?
The three players declined to re-sign with SK Telecom.
Parting and Rain are probably the two best paid players on SKT, even Fanta might be well paid considering his accomplishments, seniority and wasn't he captain too? Parting is on apparently $66K/year, rain probably similar, maybe SKT were like we'll offer you two-thirds that next season and they're like gtfo.
If the last four years of sc2 have taught us one thing, it's that if a team's best players decide to leave all at the same time, the boat is listing. Badly.
On September 11 2014 16:37 endy wrote: Rain? Holy shit?!
edit: Liquid`Rain would sound good, but I doubt TL can offer a salary close to the SKT was giving him.
But liquid will send him everywhere, and he is good enough to have high finishes in tournaments and make lots of money Look at liquidhero He made 8k at a random tournament in china the other day, by beating puck and mcsed
On September 11 2014 16:22 Ace Frehley wrote: This smells like disbanding
Smells more like "the players want something else"
The three players declined to re-sign with SK Telecom.
Parting and Rain are probably the two best paid players on SKT, even Fanta might be well paid considering his accomplishments, seniority and wasn't he captain too? Parting is on apparently $66K/year, rain probably similar, maybe SKT were like we'll offer you two-thirds that next season and they're like gtfo.
If the last four years of sc2 have taught us one thing, it's that if a team's best players decide to leave all at the same time, the boat is listing. Badly.
Like any other team will offer them more money....
The only original T1 left is soO This doesnt affect T1's strength much though, they are gonna PigBaby & Bogus and finish top2 next PL with ease. The only problem is whos gonna fill Rain's ace vacancy
Damn. SKT1 just got.. ... well, as big of a deal as this is, they're skt1 and can grab whoever they want. thinking innovation since he wants a kespa home and is of the caliber
MVP.Rain gogo make it happen Choya :3 MVP is only missing a Protoss of decent substance in their roster, they have decent enough Terran and good Zergs, just need that muscle toss.
But please Rain stay in Pro League. However pretty sure one of PartinG/Rain will be on Jin Air next season.
can anyone tell me why korean teams don't send players to foreign events? rain is very good and can win a lot of foreign tournaments. is it mainly because it's expensive or is it because of proleague?
On September 11 2014 16:43 Arceus wrote: The only original T1 left is soO This doesnt affect T1's strength much though, they are gonna PigBaby & Bogus and finish top2 next PL with ease. The only problem is whos gonna fill Rain's ace vacancy
Nobody can replace Rain. He went 5-0 in play-offs and they still lost.
On September 11 2014 16:43 Arceus wrote: The only original T1 left is soO This doesnt affect T1's strength much though, they are gonna PigBaby & Bogus and finish top2 next PL with ease. The only problem is whos gonna fill Rain's ace vacancy
Paralyze is a "original" T1, isn't he? 'Sides, Fantasy was the only one of these three who was an original T1 anyways.
On September 11 2014 16:45 Levistus wrote: whaaaaaaaaatttttttt?
can anyone tell me why korean teams don't send players to foreign events? rain is very good and can win a lot of foreign tournaments. is it mainly because it's expensive or is it because of proleague?
On September 11 2014 16:44 Pandemona wrote: MVP.Rain gogo make it happen Choya :3 MVP is only missing a Protoss of decent substance in their roster, they have decent enough Terran and good Zergs, just need that muscle toss.
But please Rain stay in Pro League. However pretty sure one of PartinG/Rain will be on Jin Air next season.
The only way a foreign team picks Rain up is if they can offer a really good contract. EG and Liquid are the only two teams I can think of that could create a contract that would entice Rain.
On September 11 2014 16:50 Packawana wrote: The only way a foreign team picks Rain up is if they can offer a really good contract. EG and Liquid are the only two teams I can think of that could create a contract that would entice Rain.
Acer could, but I doubt they'll pick up any Protoss.
Yeah PartinG remembers what it's like to play in foreign tournaments and surely talked the other into it. (cause you know... they probably asked : "How is it like outside Korea ?" and PartinG looked at them and said : "Easy").
PartinG won a lot outside of Korea and it seems to suit him. I wouldn't blame him to go out there again.
I once made a grave error in referring to SKT1 as the Real Madrid of the Starcraft world. What I did not recognize was that they were in fact the Portsmouth of Starcraft...minus the trophy.
To use another football analogy, imagine if you can that Real Madrid just decided to suddenly release Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale, and Iker Casillas. But we're alright guys. Really.
I saw Parting's twitter message and was wondering what it said then I come to TL to see this?!? I know everyone speculated about Parting and Fantasy already but Rain?! D:
Kind of understandable from Partings point of view, he finally wants to win vs a KT player again. But i never saw Rain coming :o And Fantasy... sad to see him go, but not unexpected considering the discussions about him leaving
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
Prime has their arms wide open
Why would Rain go to Prime? He wants a foreign team. If he still wanted to play in Proleague then he would have just stayed with SKT1.
On September 11 2014 17:09 LeLfe wrote: quite a gamble by FanTaSy, he hasn't done much on SC2, I wonder who will be willing to pay him as much as SKT did
Fantasy should go back BW like bisu. Read from somewhere bisu is making like 20k a month from streaming afreeca or some shit.
On September 11 2014 17:00 Evil_Sheep wrote: I once made a grave error in referring to SKT1 as the Real Madrid of the Starcraft world. What I did not recognize was that they were in fact the Portsmouth of Starcraft...minus the trophy.
To use another football analogy, imagine if you can that Real Madrid just decided to suddenly release Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale, and Iker Casillas. But we're alright guys. Really.
they are alright. they all want to go to foreign teams, to more foreign events and to more glory than korea alone can give them.
On September 11 2014 17:00 Evil_Sheep wrote: I once made a grave error in referring to SKT1 as the Real Madrid of the Starcraft world. What I did not recognize was that they were in fact the Portsmouth of Starcraft...minus the trophy.
To use another football analogy, imagine if you can that Real Madrid just decided to suddenly release Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale, and Iker Casillas. But we're alright guys. Really.
it's more like that a team like Real Madrid is playing in a league of lower prestige,
like if real madrid is playing in russia (random country, no hate on russians lol), good team, good money, bad environment
korea need to make a step forward in order to keep their sustainability, its a fact that korea is not anymore the mecca of sc2
they need more money in their system (more tournaments and so on)
$0$ won more in a single tournament that the last proleague winner team, oh c'mon!
Wow, I kind of expected PartinG to go after the twitter name change, but Rain?
A big section of SKT's recent trophy cabinet just left... I hope they can pick up a solid Protoss/Terran, but I'm glad my boiz Dark, soO and Soulkey are still there.
On September 11 2014 17:00 Evil_Sheep wrote: I once made a grave error in referring to SKT1 as the Real Madrid of the Starcraft world. What I did not recognize was that they were in fact the Portsmouth of Starcraft...minus the trophy.
To use another football analogy, imagine if you can that Real Madrid just decided to suddenly release Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale, and Iker Casillas. But we're alright guys. Really.
They refused to resign a contract, no release happened. And it's fine, I imagine SKT will just throw more money around and get new players (SKT.Innovation pretty much confirmed now)
Rain and Parting should just go to Samsung. Still get the KeSPA practice style, get to play in PL and Samsung is much more liberal of letting their players go to foreign tournaments.
Oh no, this is sad news. Now only soO and Paralyze remain from the old SKT.
I understand that Fantasy is leaving since he didn´t get a lot of playing time. If he doesn´t find a nice team he could even switch back to broodwar, which is kind of recovering.
But Rain and Parting looked pretty solid and were fielded regularly. I hope they stay in Proleague at least. Well, TL would be nice as well
Rain and Parting should just go to Samsung. Still get the KeSPA practice style, get to play in PL and Samsung is much more liberal of letting their players go to foreign tournaments.
On September 11 2014 17:00 Evil_Sheep wrote: I once made a grave error in referring to SKT1 as the Real Madrid of the Starcraft world. What I did not recognize was that they were in fact the Portsmouth of Starcraft...minus the trophy.
To use another football analogy, imagine if you can that Real Madrid just decided to suddenly release Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale, and Iker Casillas. But we're alright guys. Really.
They refused to resign a contract, no release happened. And it's fine, I imagine SKT will just throw more money around and get new players (SKT.Innovation pretty much confirmed now)
with how parting wants foreign fans to cheer him and visit foreign tournaments more often, it just seems like victor needs to call and tell him that the money spot opens up on liquid.
if they then get DRG aswell all is well in the world again.
Now i'm no longer a Rain fan. Not because I dislike his choice to depart, but because I can't bear to see on of the greats, one of the best to play the game be reduced to challenger league or Code A fodder. Not a single KeSPA elephant managed to pull off the level of success they had in Korea when on foreign teams. Even players like the robot terran, the double royal roader came back because of terrible skill drops. Hoping that no foreign team manages to get his interest and he just walks back to KeSPA.
Well fuck, I never in a million years expected Rain to leave SKT1. Rain is one of those you forever associate with his former team, just like MarineKing with Prime, Mvp with IM and DRG with MVP. Good luck to all of them, they are some of my favorite players, they are very skilled and it would be a shame to see their talents go to waste.
On September 11 2014 17:56 Radicalness wrote: Been a while since EG picked up a player...
EG made statements long time ago that they are less focused on starcraft 2, and have been focused on their Dota/LOL scene. I don't see them investing tons of money into starcraft 2, not to mention 2015 region lock, makes it even more expensive.
I don't see any foreign teams picking up Koreans anytime soon with the new lock.
On September 11 2014 17:56 Radicalness wrote: Been a while since EG picked up a player...
EG made statements long time ago that they are less focused on starcraft 2, and have been focused on their Dota/LOL scene. I don't see them investing tons of money into starcraft 2, not to mention 2015 region lock, makes it even more expensive.
I don't see any foreign teams picking up Koreans anytime soon with the new lock.
Yeah, I think people are really glossing over this fact.
On September 11 2014 18:01 ilikeredheads wrote: damn...SKT got nerfed hard.
or maybe SKT was clearing "cap space" for new blood....like innovation?
Wow, I really didn't expect Rain to leave SKT, he was one of their strongest players and seemed to be quite well in the team. I guess SKT will be still fine but I will miss him in Proleague a bit.
But on a second thought, if you look at the videos on their channel and Proleague broadcasts, Rain often hangs out with PartinG and they're both fun and outgoing personalities (the rest of the team is cool too but seems a bit more quiet), so maybe they have similar reasons, maybe as PartinG said they really just want to have fun. And with Proleague and GSL taking most of their time, they can't really go to all those international events.
And who knows, maybe Kespa will make up their mind and allow a foreign team to compete which will happen to have players like PartinG and Rain
As to what team will sign them, Acer looks good currently and they seem to have fun atmosphere, so I guess it would suit them. Evil Geniuses would be a good choice as well I guess, some great teammates for Jaedong, who's apparently getting better again since he just won WEC. mYinsanity sounds good too but I'm not sure how it looks on the inside. Team Liquid is always nice but didn't someone say that they prefer to sign like up and rising players, not already stars? Anyway, I kinda hope they'll end up in the same team because I think they get along quite well.
I wonder what will happen with Fantasy. He didn't seem to feel very well in the team, he looked very shy and all but maybe that's just an impression.
Super wild guess: they go to ROOT. Parting is kinda friends with CatZ so maybe they're in talks already... CatZ what the hell are you selling to this guys?!?
On September 11 2014 19:00 SuperHofmann wrote: Hey, EG won WEC Starcraft and WEC Dota2, something about 80k of prize pool in total, they maybe can think to acquire some Sc2 players.
It's not a money issue, it simply isn't worth it for EG to get more SC2 players.
On September 11 2014 19:00 SuperHofmann wrote: Hey, EG won WEC Starcraft and WEC Dota2, something about 80k of prize pool in total, they maybe can think to acquire some Sc2 players.
It's not a money issue, it simply isn't worth it for EG to get more SC2 players.
Yes I know, because only Jaedong (and sometime HuK) are bringing moneys to EG. Suppy, Xenocider, ThorZain and Demuslim are just a waste of money for EG, it's about 2 years that they don't have decent results. But if EG signs some top koreans it will be a good investiment for them
Since 2 years ago Sc2 wasn't worth for EG because their players suck
I don't really know if its good for Top Koreans to switch to a foreign team. Foreign Teams don't have the same training schedule and training area as in Korea.
On September 11 2014 16:22 Ace Frehley wrote: This smells like disbanding
SKT still has plenty of players like Classic, soO, and Soulkey for instance
Plus, there are a lot of free agents around. SC2 felt like having a resurgence lately, I wouldn't go for #dedgaem just because players are not extending their contracts. Fantasy might probably retire and wasn't fielded for ages, PartinG might just want to attend more than "just" proleague since he already had a sweet taste of foreign fandom. Especially since SKT still got soO, Soulkey and Classic, combined with Innovation being a free agent and that certain list that still includes some players that are at least on the edge of relevancy/significance - I don't think they'll disband.
On September 11 2014 19:00 SuperHofmann wrote: Hey, EG won WEC Starcraft and WEC Dota2, something about 80k of prize pool in total, they maybe can think to acquire some Sc2 players.
It's not a money issue, it simply isn't worth it for EG to get more SC2 players.
Yes I know, because only Jaedong (and sometime HuK) are bringing moneys to EG. Suppy, Xenocider, ThorZain and Demuslim are just a waste of money for EG, it's about 2 years that they don't have decent results. But if EG signs some top koreans it will be a good investiment for them
Since 2 years ago Sc2 wasn't worth for EG because their players suck
How do you know? I heard several times that they (EG) are focusing to have some NA players (thats why IdrA, HuK, Incontrol, Suppy etc). A EG team without them is very unlikely, but without EU players is possible. ANd you dont know what EG sponsors want (someone said Monster Energy doesnt care about results, only players with attraction (Stephano!) to community.
so, i guess afreeca and bw would be the one thing that everyone expects from Fantasy, however, in that one interview, bisu claimed that fantasy still worked hard in sc2. dunno
On September 11 2014 16:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So is SKT alright financially? They just dropped two of their best players just months after getting 2nd in Proleague. This is a very bad sign.
On September 11 2014 16:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So is SKT alright financially? They just dropped two of their best players just months after getting 2nd in Proleague. This is a very bad sign.
On September 11 2014 19:06 Ammanas wrote: I just hope to god Rain and Fantasy won't go to non-Proleague team.
Considering they've all said they're looking to go to foreign teams and travel to other tournaments I think its a fair bet that they'll be on non-Proleague teams. Not that many foreigner teams in Proleague.
On September 11 2014 16:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So is SKT alright financially? They just dropped two of their best players just months after getting 2nd in Proleague. This is a very bad sign.
On September 11 2014 16:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So is SKT alright financially? They just dropped two of their best players just months after getting 2nd in Proleague. This is a very bad sign.
On September 11 2014 19:06 Ammanas wrote: I just hope to god Rain and Fantasy won't go to non-Proleague team.
Considering they've all said they're looking to go to foreign teams and travel to other tournaments I think its a fair bet that they'll be on non-Proleague teams. Not that many foreigner teams in Proleague.
Confirmed competing in pro-league is not as much fun as traveling all over the world and playing in front of cheering fans.
i wish i was really rich. i would form a team with these players including mvp, mc and bisu. these players need to be playing at as many events as possible.
why can't skt do what cj does with hero anyway? hero goes to a lot of foreign events right?
On September 11 2014 20:02 Gwavajuice wrote: What's the deal with their dreams of foreign teams? It's not like they are so many of them and they're all financially blooming?
and if all the best players decide to play IEM or DH instead of SPL, will there be a SPL at all in the future?
Competing in SPL is BOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGGG. Foreign girls way more fun.
This is so weird, I have a hard time thinking that many teams will want more koreans they can ship to international events. With this regionlock leaving kespa is probably not the right choice unless you got connections. I really wish them well, I think Rain really fits into PL while PartinG doesn't. Hope Rain changes his mind about leaving Kespa
Acer Rain may happen, if Acer is looking for someone to replace INnoVation.
Some said Acer PartinG but I don't think PartinG can meet Acer's very high expectation. Look at what Acer accomplished in the latest two years. They sponsored 3 ATC and won 2 of them, they performed very actively to attract community attentions (just like Waxangel said, F*** Acer. :D), and they successfully replaced EG to become Liquid's new rivalry and one of the best foreign teams in the world. It makes me feel that what Acer desires is to become another TL, an influential leader, not just a regular team. Losing INnoVation will not make them give up that ambition.
And by far Rain is the perfect candidate for Acer. Very stable for a long time, very solid in team league, the favorite in any top-tier tournament, and has great reputation and fan base in the foreign community. Also he has the potential to be a good leader, which will also be important when considering that MMA has to retire the next year.
On September 11 2014 20:25 mooncifer wrote: Acer Rain may happen, if Acer is looking for someone to replace INnoVation.
Some said Acer PartinG but I don't think PartinG can meet Acer's very high expectation. Look at what Acer accomplished in the latest two years. They sponsored 3 ATC and won 2 of them, they performed very actively to attract community attentions (just like Waxangel said, F*** Acer. :D), and they successfully replaced EG to become Liquid's new rivalry and one of the best foreign teams in the world. It makes me feel that what Acer desires is to become another TL, an influential leader, not just a regular team. Losing INnoVation will not make them give up that ambition.
And by far Rain is the perfect candidate for Acer. Very stable for a long time, very solid in team league, the favorite in any top-tier tournament, and has great reputation and fan base in the foreign community. Also he has the potential to be a good leader, which will also be important when considering that MMA has to retire the next year.
I'm pretty sure that average KeSPA b-teamer is twice as good as any Acer player that is currently on their team.
Wow, what a blow to SKT!! And there are not too many foreign teams available I guess, so where will they end up? AlienInvasionParting??? DignitasRain?????
So now Acer shouldn't have any problem compensating the loss of INnoVation. AcerFantasy? Also EG could use this opportunity to buy some more talent, aside from JD their roster seems non-existent.
On September 11 2014 20:52 Creager wrote: So now Acer shouldn't have any problem compensating the loss of INnoVation. AcerFantasy? Also EG could use this opportunity to buy some more talent, aside from JD their roster seems non-existent.
DeMusliM came third in a tournament about finding the best European, so he's still kicking.
WOW wtf is happening. SKT without Parting and Rain? Now they need innovation if they want to do well in proleague imo. Also no Rain in proleague probably, THAT sucks -.- (idc about parting tbh)
On September 11 2014 20:52 Creager wrote: So now Acer shouldn't have any problem compensating the loss of INnoVation. AcerFantasy? Also EG could use this opportunity to buy some more talent, aside from JD their roster seems non-existent.
DeMusliM came third in a tournament about finding the best European, so he's still kicking.
Sorry but last time I bet my money on DeMusliM he proceeded to lose against someone named "MarineLord" at DH or sth. 0-2... I really like Ben, but as a player I have to admit I've given up on him long time ago.
Rain leaving is surprising but not Parting and Fantasy. Parting can get easy money from foreign tournaments and Fantasy has been rumoured to be retiring for such a long time prior to PL finals. He's likely going to play in this seeing everything fit what Love said: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/465791-lovetv-starleague-brood-war-30
On September 11 2014 17:09 LeLfe wrote: quite a gamble by FanTaSy, he hasn't done much on SC2, I wonder who will be willing to pay him as much as SKT did
Fantasy should go back BW like bisu. Read from somewhere bisu is making like 20k a month from streaming afreeca or some shit.
yes, Bisu is making ridiculous bank on Afreeca and streams on a daily basis. Imagine if Fantasy starts streaming, I'm sure he'll make more than what he was making on SKT in SCII.
MK, EG Parting sounds very good. Haven't heard many waves from that team in a long time since they booted Idra, though Huk has been doing much better recently.
I wonder who will have a larger salary after these transfers. Top of the top notch Rain. The angel himself? Or will it be our fallen angel. Soul-train Devil Parting?
To be honest the rationales given in the article smell like bullshit, especially Fantasy who I'm sure would've seen a huge salary cut if he stayed on SKT. But I am shocked about Rain.
Wouldn't be scared of SKT1 having financial issues or the team having internal problems. Just seems like the case of the three players desiring to look beyond Korea and join a foreign team for the experience.
HAHAAH Im loving this.. SKT fans were already talkin shit about how they were going to be adding Bogus to their line up and instead they lose the very face of SKT along with two of their best three players. RIP SKT.
On September 11 2014 21:19 BigFan wrote: Rain leaving is surprising but not Parting and Fantasy. Parting can get easy money from foreign tournaments and Fantasy has been rumoured to be retiring for such a long time prior to PL finals. He's likely going to play in this seeing everything fit what Love said: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/465791-lovetv-starleague-brood-war-30
On September 11 2014 17:09 LeLfe wrote: quite a gamble by FanTaSy, he hasn't done much on SC2, I wonder who will be willing to pay him as much as SKT did
Fantasy should go back BW like bisu. Read from somewhere bisu is making like 20k a month from streaming afreeca or some shit.
yes, Bisu is making ridiculous bank on Afreeca and streams on a daily basis. Imagine if Fantasy starts streaming, I'm sure he'll make more than what he was making on SKT in SCII.
Rumors of Fantasy retiring are only rumors though. His twitter is sc2fantasy.. oh yeah and he's streaming later
On September 11 2014 22:07 -Celestial- wrote: Despite everything discussed above about foreign teams and the fact that there is zero chance of this happening...
IM.Lucky IM.PartinG IM.INnoVation IM.Rain
Coach: Jung "FanTaSy" Myung Hoon
Next Proleague winning team right there. ;P
We can all have dreams. I just want IM.Mvp again :\
Maybe Rain and PartinG looked over at MC and Hyunn sitting at the top two WCS rankings (and earning lots of prize money) and then realized that it doesn't make sense to stay in Korea where only the top player gets significant tournament money and you have to compete with the best of the best just to survive the round of 16. PartinG was one win away from the round of 8 after beating Maru 2-1 and going 1-1 with Innovation. That's a pretty crazy group for the round of 16.
Would be so happy if Fantasy were like "fuck it, this game clearly isn't for me" went on to play Love.tv S3 and win the 30k!
I find Fantasy's story to be so sad. The last 4-5 months of televised BW he was without a question THE best player, better than Flash and although he bombed out in the Tving OSL finals he would have clearly enjoyed much success if SC2 switch hadn't happened.
On September 11 2014 22:28 thezanursic wrote: Would be so happy if Fantasy were like "fuck it, this game clearly isn't for me" went on to play Love.tv S3 and win the 30k!
I find Fantasy's story to be so sad. The last 4-5 months of televised BW he was without a question THE best player, better than Flash and although he bombed out in the Tving OSL finals he would have clearly enjoyed much success if SC2 switch hadn't happened.
Jangbi was pretty much the undisputed numero uno at the tail end of BW. Fantasy was definitely the second best though. Not sure why he's stuck with Sc2 for so long, even though his results have been, at best, mediocre. I'd love to see him back in BW at this point.
sick news today, didtn expect rain to leave or parting. i thought fanta may retiere after this PL season. i dont know who they will pick as an replacement but MK.SKT1 would blow my mind. ggl to all of these players. i feel parting and rain will find a team asap. SK or Acer are is my gues but well see. sad that these players most likely wont play in the next Proleague season.
All those guys must have a new team already right? It would be pretty stupid to choose not having a great contract with a Korean team in the hope some foreign team picks you up ?
On September 11 2014 22:28 thezanursic wrote: Would be so happy if Fantasy were like "fuck it, this game clearly isn't for me" went on to play Love.tv S3 and win the 30k!
I find Fantasy's story to be so sad. The last 4-5 months of televised BW he was without a question THE best player, better than Flash and although he bombed out in the Tving OSL finals he would have clearly enjoyed much success if SC2 switch hadn't happened.
Jangbi was pretty much the undisputed numero uno at the tail end of BW. Fantasy was definitely the second best though. Not sure why he's stuck with Sc2 for so long, even though his results have been, at best, mediocre. I'd love to see him back in BW at this point.
Are you shitting me. Winning the finals doesn't mean Jangbi was better. Jangbi was a good player, but he was not nearly as good as Fantasy. Fantasy choked in the finals. Jangbi in reality should have lost versus Zero in the semifinals, but Zero choked to...
Jangbi... Was always so inconsistent.
I know that statistics aren't everything, but still
And that's just the statistics when you look at fantasy's play it makes it all the more clear. Fantasy. was. the. best. player.
See Fantasy vs Flash SPL 2012 finals
Jangbi was good, but he in all truth was very lucky to make it to the finals of the last OSL and actually win it. Zero had to choke, Fantasy had to choke, fine he won, it still doesn't make him the best. It's really easy to look at who won a certain finals and just bend the narrative to "he was the best player" when there were other factors in play and also I'm not saying that Jangbi won by luck in the Tving finals, he played better than Fantasy, but that's because Fantasy choked and didn't play like he had throughout 2012.
On September 11 2014 22:55 Boucot wrote: According to Only (aAa coach), Parting will join yoe Flash Wolves with the ultimate goal for yoe to form a very big team.
On September 11 2014 22:55 Boucot wrote: According to Only (aAa coach), Parting will join yoe Flash Wolves with the ultimate goal for yoe to form a very big team.
On September 11 2014 22:55 Boucot wrote: According to Only (aAa coach), Parting will join yoe Flash Wolves with the ultimate goal for yoe to form a very big team.
Boy it is a buyers market for players right now! GL to everyone looking for a team, but when I see so many top players looking for foreign teams it makes me worried that this is the perfect breeding ground for scammers and liars. Hope all these guys have their wits about them and are careful.
Just a curious question for any Korean out there - lets pretend that the 8.000 USD/month for Parting is true. How big salary is this for a Korean citizen? For a Czech people these money are huge.
Thanks!
Edit: I just want to know how big pile of money they could save. because they can really be about some fame and glory and not about money, since they can have some high numbers on accounts. Considering the regime and how much time they have to spend their $$$
Well, I'm sorry, but this might be my fault. After all these years as SKT1 fan, I somehow realized that I don't have much passion for the team anymore (Boxer and Bisu not with team anymore, Fanta not doing well). Even in last proleague finals, I cheered for KT, especially Flash.
Yesterday, I felt it is time to switch my favourite team in my TL profile to KT. Today I wake up and this happens. Coincidence
On September 11 2014 22:28 thezanursic wrote: Would be so happy if Fantasy were like "fuck it, this game clearly isn't for me" went on to play Love.tv S3 and win the 30k!
I find Fantasy's story to be so sad. The last 4-5 months of televised BW he was without a question THE best player, better than Flash and although he bombed out in the Tving OSL finals he would have clearly enjoyed much success if SC2 switch hadn't happened.
Jangbi was pretty much the undisputed numero uno at the tail end of BW. Fantasy was definitely the second best though. Not sure why he's stuck with Sc2 for so long, even though his results have been, at best, mediocre. I'd love to see him back in BW at this point.
Are you shitting me. Winning the finals doesn't mean Jangbi was better. Jangbi was a good player, but he was not nearly as good as Fantasy. Fantasy choked in the finals. Jangbi in reality should have lost versus Zero in the semifinals, but Zero choked to...
Jangbi... Was always so inconsistent.
I know that statistics aren't everything, but still
And that's just the statistics when you look at fantasy's play it makes it all the more clear. Fantasy. was. the. best. player.
See Fantasy vs Flash SPL 2012 finals
Jangbi was good, but he in all truth was very lucky to make it to the finals of the last OSL and actually win it. Zero had to choke, Fantasy had to choke, fine he won, it still doesn't make him the best. It's really easy to look at who won a certain finals and just bend the narrative to "he was the best player" when there were other factors in play and also I'm not saying that Jangbi won by luck in the Tving finals, he played better than Fantasy, but that's because Fantasy choked and didn't play like he had throughout 2012.
He won the last two OSLs, that's not luck and that's not from opponents choking. He won because he was better. Jangbi was the best player for the last year of BW, in the games where it actually mattered.
What The F. Did not see this coming at all! Lots of changes coming, it'll be good for SC2 scene overall I think. Imagine them playing in WCS NA. It'll be "sick" as Rotty would say.
On September 11 2014 22:28 thezanursic wrote: Would be so happy if Fantasy were like "fuck it, this game clearly isn't for me" went on to play Love.tv S3 and win the 30k!
I find Fantasy's story to be so sad. The last 4-5 months of televised BW he was without a question THE best player, better than Flash and although he bombed out in the Tving OSL finals he would have clearly enjoyed much success if SC2 switch hadn't happened.
Jangbi was pretty much the undisputed numero uno at the tail end of BW. Fantasy was definitely the second best though. Not sure why he's stuck with Sc2 for so long, even though his results have been, at best, mediocre. I'd love to see him back in BW at this point.
Are you shitting me. Winning the finals doesn't mean Jangbi was better. Jangbi was a good player, but he was not nearly as good as Fantasy. Fantasy choked in the finals. Jangbi in reality should have lost versus Zero in the semifinals, but Zero choked to...
Jangbi... Was always so inconsistent.
I know that statistics aren't everything, but still
And that's just the statistics when you look at fantasy's play it makes it all the more clear. Fantasy. was. the. best. player.
See Fantasy vs Flash SPL 2012 finals
Jangbi was good, but he in all truth was very lucky to make it to the finals of the last OSL and actually win it. Zero had to choke, Fantasy had to choke, fine he won, it still doesn't make him the best. It's really easy to look at who won a certain finals and just bend the narrative to "he was the best player" when there were other factors in play and also I'm not saying that Jangbi won by luck in the Tving finals, he played better than Fantasy, but that's because Fantasy choked and didn't play like he had throughout 2012.
He won the last two OSLs, that's not luck and that's not from opponents choking. He won because he was better. Jangbi was the best player for the last year of BW, in the games where it actually mattered.
Yeah, unlike Fantasy Jangbi doesn't choke in games where it really matters, hence he is the better player.
Also, I don't Fantasy really choked in the last finals. It looked more like Jangbi dismantling him with well prepared builds.
At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
I think this is partly SKT's fault for not sending their players overseas more. Proleague was Bo5 for most of the year and they had 7 players in Code S. They should've easily been able to send 2 players to foreign tournaments.
I would find it amusing if Blizzard's region lock backfires. All the mediocre Koreans go back to Korea. They will be replaced by better Koreans who foreign teams are willing to sponsor visas for.
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
You mean like KT? They are pretty cool.
I think that's the only team that would be a complete sell out. Also, you have a teammate that removed his chin. That's pretty creepy.
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
Come to KT, i mean Zest is more handsome than Bisu anyway.
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
You mean like KT? They are pretty cool.
I think that's the only team that would be a complete sell out. Also, you have a teammate that removed his chin. That's pretty creepy.
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
What are you talking about?! Koreans are going for ez foreign money! They're bad for everyone! We mùst banish them from esports forever! They're terking foreigner jerbs!
/sarcasm
Actually I totally agree with this, I hope all the Korean talent goes to the foreign teams and then they continue to wreck the international scene.
Liquid needs to pick one these guys up, if possible. I'm guessing Nazgul has refrained from hiring new players for a while now since he knew this opportunity would arise. Nazgul is actually so smart.
By the way, watching Fantasy stream, he doesn't seem like the kind of Terran that would float 1000 minerals and 500 gas during fights. He's really improved compared to early in his SC2 career, no?
Coupled with the WCS changes this seems like a bad choice. Or maybe they just wanna play "smaller" foreign tournaments like Dreamhack etc and prefer it over playing in Proleague.
Still too many free agents. I do think they'll be picked up, but it might need a new team. Gogo someone rich? :D
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
You mean like KT? They are pretty cool.
I think that's the only team that would be a complete sell out. Also, you have a teammate that removed his chin. That's pretty creepy.
On September 12 2014 00:45 Incognoto wrote: Holy crap is anyone else watching Fantasy stream? If he sees banelings he doesn't split he focus fires them.
Always rooted against SKT from the BW days, but they have always provided quite the entertainment. Especially Fantasy who I was hoping would rise to relevance in SC2 like the days of old. I'm sure SKT will reload and still be quite formidable going forward but it will be different. The subtraction of Fantasy (who never played) and PartinG shouldn't be too bad, but Rain was their leader and Ace player. Should be interesting to see who between Soulkey and SoO steps up to become their new face (guessing the latter). Hope all 3 enjoy their new adventures and I will miss rooting against them and the Goliath that is SKT in Proleague. Excited to see them in overseas tournaments and competing all over the world!
On September 11 2014 21:19 BigFan wrote: Rain leaving is surprising but not Parting and Fantasy. Parting can get easy money from foreign tournaments and Fantasy has been rumoured to be retiring for such a long time prior to PL finals. He's likely going to play in this seeing everything fit what Love said: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/465791-lovetv-starleague-brood-war-30
On September 11 2014 17:17 covetousrat wrote:
On September 11 2014 17:09 LeLfe wrote: quite a gamble by FanTaSy, he hasn't done much on SC2, I wonder who will be willing to pay him as much as SKT did
Fantasy should go back BW like bisu. Read from somewhere bisu is making like 20k a month from streaming afreeca or some shit.
yes, Bisu is making ridiculous bank on Afreeca and streams on a daily basis. Imagine if Fantasy starts streaming, I'm sure he'll make more than what he was making on SKT in SCII.
Rumors of Fantasy retiring are only rumors though. His twitter is sc2fantasy.. oh yeah and he's streaming later
well yes, they are, no one knows but being out of SKT giving the rumour a higher possibility of happening. Other thing is that we are getting terrans who have never streamed on afreeca with 100 wins in PL. Fantasy and leta are the only two that come to mind considering other options that aren't possible (aka no flash for ex lol). Leta obviously more likely because of his current position but there's still fantasy as a possibility.
With all the Acer and TL being mentioned I had to think of Acer buying all the Koreans for a year now and go for PL next year and win it. That PR Bomb they would get could be worth it XD
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
You mean like KT? They are pretty cool.
I think that's the only team that would be a complete sell out. Also, you have a teammate that removed his chin. That's pretty creepy.
there can only be one chin unfortunately
Wait who removed their chin?
Stats. Which is why Classic is chintoss 2.0.
Also, proleague will definitely suffer not having 3 starters (Rain, Parting, and Hydra). I am eager to see who steps up in their place though. Change is good! LoTV is coming out "soon" and the scene is in another stage of evolution. Embrace it!
On September 12 2014 00:51 Big-t wrote: Why Rain? Makes absolutely no sens...
I think PartinG is playing a huge role there. He seemed to come along great with Rain. Whenever I saw them on stream, they were mostly smiling and laughing. And PartinG does seem like a fun person, especially if he's even half as funny in person as in interviews. Not wanna say that it's PartinG's fault that Rain leaves, but I do think he had tons of fun with him and without him he'd still be staying in SKT1.
On September 12 2014 00:45 Incognoto wrote: Holy crap is anyone else watching Fantasy stream? If he sees banelings he doesn't split he focus fires them.
what
the
hell
never seen FP terran do that. it's insanity.
Splitting is for loosers, you gotta go 1v1 those banelings and beat them or die......like a man.
On September 12 2014 00:59 FeyFey wrote: With all the Acer and TL being mentioned I had to think of Acer buying all the Koreans for a year now and go for PL next year and win it. That PR Bomb they would get could be worth it XD
I'm sure the Acer management will think it was a fantastic investment when they are raiding the carbage bins outside the local supermarket for recyclable cans.
At this point it seems rather obvious that money wasn't the sole motive. My guess is that the management had a too tight a grip on these players limiting their freedom as a player and as a person.
On September 12 2014 00:51 Big-t wrote: Why Rain? Makes absolutely no sens...
I think PartinG is playing a huge role there. He seemed to come along great with Rain. Whenever I saw them on stream, they were mostly smiling and laughing. And PartinG does seem like a fun person, especially if he's even half as funny in person as in interviews. Not wanna say that it's PartinG's fault that Rain leaves, but I do think he had tons of fun with him and without him he'd still be staying in SKT1.
I agree. They seemed to be really good friends even before Parting moved to SKT, so I'd imagine Rain wants to move with parting to a new team (which might make it a lot more expensive for a team wanting to pick either one up.)
At any rate I see them both staying in the same team house wherever they go.
On September 12 2014 02:09 Aeromi wrote: PartinG to join a Taiwanese team.
God dammit
It's so Page 16.
On September 11 2014 22:55 Boucot wrote: According to Only (aAa coach), Parting will join yoe Flash Wolves with the ultimate goal for yoe to form a very big team.
Well TL doesn't have a Dota team to sink money into anymore and Taeja is due to retire. Hope they pick up Hydra and Rain, they seem like Liquid kind of players.
@Saechiis: if none of the foreigners retire, I think they will only sign one Korean. But Rain could be really the perfect succcessor of Taeja, given how supersolid he is.
On September 11 2014 23:56 BisuDagger wrote: At first I was sad and felt upset, but honestly this is great for foreign Starcraft 2. With so many players going abroad it's going to make international tournaments even more exciting. However, for the first time in 6 years (2008 when Bisu joined SKT) I must consider if I will remain an SKT fan when the staff and players are nearly completely new or find a new team with players that I'm passionate about.
Really the end of a decade. Fantasy carried boxers and iloveoovs torch to the highest pillars of starcraft bw play ever seen (fantasy ended bw as the top player, imo at least, and obviously the scene got higher skilled overtime)
So, how long till Rain runs back with the tail between his legs and rejoins SK Telecom T1 after he finds out how it's like on a foreign team where they have no teamhouse where everything is provided for the player and stable high (for a progamer) salary income. Oh well, in a few months Rain probably won't be a top tier protoss anymore as his skill declines due to lack of the structured KeSPA practice regime.
On September 12 2014 03:57 Mattidute wrote: So, how long till Rain runs back with the tail between his legs and rejoins SK Telecom T1 after he finds out how it's like on a foreign team where they have no teamhouse where everything is provided for the player and stable high (for a progamer) salary income. Oh well, in a few months Rain probably won't be a top tier protoss anymore as his skill declines due to lack of the structured KeSPA practice regime.
Many Koreans are able to succeed on Western teams or even just with personal sponsors. Taeja and HerO have done great on TL. MC has done well on SK and GEM. Polt has thrived on CM Storm.
On September 11 2014 22:55 Boucot wrote: According to Only (aAa coach), Parting will join yoe Flash Wolves with the ultimate goal for yoe to form a very big team.
On September 12 2014 03:57 Mattidute wrote: So, how long till Rain runs back with the tail between his legs and rejoins SK Telecom T1 after he finds out how it's like on a foreign team where they have no teamhouse where everything is provided for the player and stable high (for a progamer) salary income. Oh well, in a few months Rain probably won't be a top tier protoss anymore as his skill declines due to lack of the structured KeSPA practice regime.
Many Koreans are able to succeed on Western teams or even just with personal sponsors. Taeja and HerO have done great on TL. MC has done well on SK and GEM. Polt has thrived on CM Storm.
Yeah but they were never particularly good to start with.
On September 12 2014 03:57 Mattidute wrote: So, how long till Rain runs back with the tail between his legs and rejoins SK Telecom T1 after he finds out how it's like on a foreign team where they have no teamhouse where everything is provided for the player and stable high (for a progamer) salary income. Oh well, in a few months Rain probably won't be a top tier protoss anymore as his skill declines due to lack of the structured KeSPA practice regime.
Many Koreans are able to succeed on Western teams or even just with personal sponsors. Taeja and HerO have done great on TL. MC has done well on SK and GEM. Polt has thrived on CM Storm.
Yeah but they were never particularly good to start with.
So winning 2 GSL titles and being the #1 in prize winnings makes you not particularly good.
Not even gonna go into the two TL Koreans and Polt since you are either delusional or trolling.
On September 12 2014 03:57 Mattidute wrote: So, how long till Rain runs back with the tail between his legs and rejoins SK Telecom T1 after he finds out how it's like on a foreign team where they have no teamhouse where everything is provided for the player and stable high (for a progamer) salary income. Oh well, in a few months Rain probably won't be a top tier protoss anymore as his skill declines due to lack of the structured KeSPA practice regime.
.....Dude.... seriously...
All and i mean ALL Koreans wished they could travel more often for Foreign tournaments. Rain will be completely fine as well as any other Korean that decides to come to a foreign team. Now are there Koreans that like the structure of team houses and practice... sure there are but MC, HyuN, Polt, Violet, Bomber, Stardust, etc... have all shown you can be very successful outside of Korea.
This might open the door the BIG, BIG, BIG things in 2015 for Starcraft!
Fact: You know EG will pick one of these dudes up i think we all know thats true.
On September 12 2014 03:57 Mattidute wrote: So, how long till Rain runs back with the tail between his legs and rejoins SK Telecom T1 after he finds out how it's like on a foreign team where they have no teamhouse where everything is provided for the player and stable high (for a progamer) salary income. Oh well, in a few months Rain probably won't be a top tier protoss anymore as his skill declines due to lack of the structured KeSPA practice regime.
.....Dude.... seriously...
All and i mean ALL Koreans wished they could travel more often for Foreign tournaments. Rain will be completely fine as well as any other Korean that decides to come to a foreign team. Now are there Koreans that like the structure of team houses and practice... sure there are but MC, HyuN, Polt, Violet, Bomber, Stardust, etc... have all shown you can be very successful outside of Korea.
This might open the door the BIG, BIG, BIG things in 2015 for Starcraft!
Fact: You know EG will pick one of these dudes up i think we all know thats true.
Just imagine the dream of Rain and DRG joining Liquid. Nazgul and TB have a conversation and open a bigger house and Bunny and Snute move to Korea. Axiom and TL partnerup for Proleague.
On September 12 2014 05:04 AWalker9 wrote: Just imagine the dream of Rain and DRG joining Liquid. Nazgul and TB have a conversation and open a bigger house and Bunny and Snute move to Korea. Axiom and TL partnerup for Proleague.
On September 11 2014 16:22 Zealously wrote: I worry for Rain here. Parting is a much more attractive prospect than Rain, and I'm not sure there are teams available for both.
Ooooh, it's more than just team shuffling!! Exciting.
Perhaps we'll see EG pick a few of these big names up. JD can only carry so much, and he looks like he's really struggling right now.
And with so many SKT players leaving, SKTInnovation doesn't sound that crazy. They are in need of a quality Terran, after all. I'd much prefer to see him go to any other team, however.
On September 12 2014 05:04 AWalker9 wrote: Just imagine the dream of Rain and DRG joining Liquid. Nazgul and TB have a conversation and open a bigger house and Bunny and Snute move to Korea. Axiom and TL partnerup for Proleague.
On September 12 2014 05:30 Nebulem wrote: Has Squirtle found a team ? Otherwise, it would be so nice to see PartinG and Squirtle team up once again. Startale nostalgia is real.
I'm still holding out for a reunion-StarTale entering ProLeague for next season.
The crazy thing is that skt still has a pretty decent line up. Soo soulkey classic dark and paralyze. Also, i reckon that innovation and gumi bear are fairly reasonable pick ups with all of that money they've got.
On September 12 2014 06:56 DBS wrote: The crazy thing is that skt still has a pretty decent line up. Soo soulkey classic dark and paralyze. Also, i reckon that innovation and gumi bear are fairly reasonable pick ups with all of that money they've got.
I mean SKT will probably be fine, but Rain on the other hand
On September 12 2014 09:54 Darthsanta13 wrote: Man, that means it can't be rain or parting. There's just way too many puns that could be done with those two.
On September 12 2014 09:54 Darthsanta13 wrote: Man, that means it can't be rain or parting. There's just way too many puns that could be done with those two.
On September 12 2014 09:54 Darthsanta13 wrote: Man, that means it can't be rain or parting. There's just way too many puns that could be done with those two.
i wonder why fantasy/parting chose to stream on twitch instead of azubu, even tho kespa is going to partner up with azubu. is it simply that now fantasy/parting is no longer kespa players that azubu will no longer offer them the same deal?
i also feel that if EG doesnt pick up one of these guys, their sc2 squad is basically dead in terms of priority.
On September 12 2014 09:54 Darthsanta13 wrote: Man, that means it can't be rain or parting. There's just way too many puns that could be done with those two.
Actually, maybe they couldn't think of a good enough pun, which is why they decided against having one.
Just realised, KT Rain would make KT so ******* ridiculously strong. In addition with a top Zerg like DRG, this would just be unfair to the others Proleague teams.
I never loved a protoss like i loved Rain. I am so so sad, they were so good (still are) but now they are not going to improve like they would if they stayed in a big kespa team... i dont get it... So sad.
Teams don't own players, that has been established. Don't fret for SKT, they will bounce back. I'm just curious what these players want to do now. Any of them is a top notch addition to any team at this moment!
EPT
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