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On September 05 2014 23:25 kushm4sta wrote: Read through dsmdred filter on and I'm finding it pretty townie with lots of content
So why was he on your scum list 1 page before this was posted?
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like that is tied up in so much bad meta, and you aren't even considering the recent change in my life situation
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On September 06 2014 02:40 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:34 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 05 2014 19:57 kushm4sta wrote: So poorer u disagree about batsnacks why ? Weird how I'm your top scum read due to inactivity, I do stuff, and then you don't even feel the need to comment on it. Its not about the activity its about how much I think you care about the game and you frankly don't seem to care. I thought at first you cared but now I'm just not seeing it like I have before. that's a sketchy as fuck thing to base a read on. you aren't me. You don't truly know my current level of caring AND you don't know how business could affect my level of caring.
I understand RL takes a part in how you play yesterday I felt shitty so my play was shitty. I however can't take what you say at base value because if you're mafia your entire goal is to lie and deceive me. Frankly in your play I'm not seeing the same kind of kush I normally see when you're town. I'm looking man D1 I had you as my town and even spoke to vivax about why he had you as scum and disagreed. It was based off the same read but the tone felt different at the time. The fact that you're questioning me now on that read when it lands you in the scumpile vs the townpile is sketchy to me.
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On September 06 2014 02:41 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 23:25 kushm4sta wrote: Read through dsmdred filter on and I'm finding it pretty townie with lots of content So why was he on your scum list 1 page before this was posted?
cause i hadn't read his filter yet. Here is literally exactly how I made the list. Copypasted the player list. Delete the names of people that seems townie just from my read through. CLICK POST. Do not read too much into that list.
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?? so you had me as town, then my tone changed a little, a now you have me as scum?? that is nebulous.
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Why is it scummy that im questioning you about your shitty read on me?
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Reconsideration of batsnacks as town
On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote: I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons. This idea looks pretty solidly townie.
Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum.
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On September 06 2014 02:59 kushm4sta wrote:Reconsideration of batsnacks as town
Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote: I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons. This idea looks pretty solidly townie. Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum.
When you get a chance kush, I'd like you to expand on the bolded part, please. What do you mean by "too dumb to be scum?" Personally, I liked that case, even if I didn't agree with his conclusion.
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On September 06 2014 02:42 kushm4sta wrote: like that is tied up in so much bad meta, and you aren't even considering the recent change in my life situation
A lot of players who I respect have ALWAYS talked about that being a good read on you so why would it be bad meta?
I get the feeling from your posts that you're scum caught for what you consider a "bad" reason because you're not arguing about how you think I'm wrong but more about how the meta is bad and that its silly that that is the reason. Like subconsciously you know there is a reason but you don't think mine is good.
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On September 06 2014 02:45 kushm4sta wrote: ?? so you had me as town, then my tone changed a little, a now you have me as scum?? that is nebulous.
You play one way at the start then you started playing/sounding different so my read flipped. How is that nebulous?
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On September 06 2014 03:09 3d12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:59 kushm4sta wrote:Reconsideration of batsnacks as town
On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote: I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons. This idea looks pretty solidly townie. Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum. When you get a chance kush, I'd like you to expand on the bolded part, please. What do you mean by "too dumb to be scum?" Personally, I liked that case, even if I didn't agree with his conclusion.
of course you would like that case... We have zero information about the terms of the missions. Speculating something as specific as that and basing a scumread off of it is ridiculous. So ridiculous that scum would probably never make that argument.
Originally I said it indicated tmi. But that is wrong. Scum would not go into lengths about a theory informed by their knowledge of their own missions. No scum is that dumb.
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Right now i'm suffering a bit from OMGUS and my reads are being colored right now,
Vivax: Hes seemed to tunnel pretty much every person he has went after this game. Templar, he said was scummy, bats he said was worth another look. But his vote ended up on someone he said was a plynch and then he peace'd out and went to sleep. He never reallye ven tried to get a wagon going on d1 and he jumped on a plynch As day two draws near he hears Oats wants to lynch people who over explained their votes. Vivax never looks back at the votes really. He jumps on me because of what he says is an over explained vote, but he never pressures the other people on the train who had contradictions in previous statements and where they ended up. He also gives no room for evolution of reads, or gives context for posts, he just looks for things that could be scummy and links them together.
3D: I just keep going back to those last posts he made in D1 and they just look bad. He has a lot of scum reads, and then says its scummy to jump on the hot lynch wagon after lurking but he does the same thing. He does say whatever he is thinking it seems like in d2 but his D1 to me was really scummy and his case on bats fullfilling some mission today is weird to me.
Getting concerened about a couple other people now, I still have bats as scum but the case on him hasn't changed much. Hes really formal and is try hard and formulaic in his posts which look a lot like N&T and Storm 2, even his night 2 postings where he was getting people riled up it fits into his scum meta.
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On September 06 2014 03:11 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:42 kushm4sta wrote: like that is tied up in so much bad meta, and you aren't even considering the recent change in my life situation A lot of players who I respect have ALWAYS talked about that being a good read on you so why would it be bad meta? I get the feeling from your posts that you're scum caught for what you consider a "bad" reason because you're not arguing about how you think I'm wrong but more about how the meta is bad and that its silly that that is the reason. Like subconsciously you know there is a reason but you don't think mine is good. during the school year I am often known to have terrible activity d1 or terrible activity for the entire game. Actually last town game I got mislynched d2? i think because of inactivity.
On September 06 2014 03:11 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:45 kushm4sta wrote: ?? so you had me as town, then my tone changed a little, a now you have me as scum?? that is nebulous. You play one way at the start then you started playing/sounding different so my read flipped. How is that nebulous? It's nebulous because I changed in a way you can only describe as "tone", and you don't point to any specific evidence. Also, if I was acting townie then, and scummy now, what makes my behavior then less telling than my behavior now?
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On September 06 2014 03:12 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 03:09 3d12 wrote:On September 06 2014 02:59 kushm4sta wrote:Reconsideration of batsnacks as town
On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote: I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons. This idea looks pretty solidly townie. Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum. When you get a chance kush, I'd like you to expand on the bolded part, please. What do you mean by "too dumb to be scum?" Personally, I liked that case, even if I didn't agree with his conclusion. of course you would like that case... We have zero information about the terms of the missions. Speculating something as specific as that and basing a scumread off of it is ridiculous. So ridiculous that scum would probably never make that argument. Originally I said it indicated tmi. But that is wrong. Scum would not go into lengths about a theory informed by their knowledge of their own missions. No scum is that dumb.
Of course I would. Any case that helps root out scum, directly or indirectly, helps us as a whole. And zero information about the terms of the missions doesn't cripple us as much as you might like us to believe. We can infer about certain objectives the host may have arranged and gauge reactions accordingly. I don't like how it seems like you're trying to throw us off that trail.
Also, I rather dislike the disparity between "So ridiculous that scum would probably never make that argument" and "No scum is that dumb." (emphasis mine) It seems like you started writing your post in one frame of mind, then switched to another frame of mind to make your point seem less shaky. If anything reeks of tmi in this post, it's that.
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kitaman27
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kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,
Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice.
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Kitaman is your bunnies case still your top scum read/case right now?
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damdred "no scum is that dumb" and "scum would probably never make that argument" are the same thing. one is just exaggerated. but they represent the same mindset.
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I don't think i've said anything like that Kush. I think 3d said that
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