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On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,
Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice.
I'm still trying to figure that out.
Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town:
On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum? I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it? I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump.
He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
A) On September 04 2014 04:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
But it really disgusts me how many people went afk and didn't give a shit.
On September 05 2014 12:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to sheep Vivax because I don't feel like doing anything.
See you.
B) On September 04 2014 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:What the fuck are you doing this game?
On September 03 2014 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how almost everyone is okay with me doing nothing.
Somebody get this guy a mirror.
It's really tempting to lynch him, just so we don't have to hear the "LOL I DID NOTHING AND GOT AWAY WITH IT. SUCK IT TOWN" speech at endgame.
On September 03 2014 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I never post reads dude. I always hide them until I have an ironclad case or unless I have a really strong townread, of which I have neither.
I think you should have had more than enough time to put together an ironclad case by now.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
In fact, I think I'll throw a vote down.
##Vote ObiWanShinobi
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Why are you hesitant to vote him though kita? U seemed hesitant
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On September 06 2014 03:48 kushm4sta wrote:
damdred "no scum is that dumb" and "scum would probably never make that argument" are the same thing. one is just exaggerated. but they represent the same mindset.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like this defensive tone.
##unvote
##Vote kushm4sta
You have one chance from me. I was reading you town prior to today, but now I'm willing to put the batwagon on hold to pin you on this:
Post your updated reads, or explain in clear terms why batsnacks couldn't be scum. You may quote any posts you would like to make this argument, not just the one you were referencing initially.
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Vote: kushm4sta
EBWOP to fix formatting. I don't know how stingy the host will be about that.
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GAH third time's a charm:
##Vote: kushm4sta
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3d I made a post explaining why I was reconsidering my bat read. 2 posts actually. Read them?
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On September 06 2014 04:09 kushm4sta wrote:
3d I made a post explaining why I was reconsidering my bat read. 2 posts actually. Read them?
I have been reading. In fact, I've probably been reading more than you would like me to:
On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum?
On September 06 2014 02:59 kushm4sta wrote:Reconsideration of batsnacks as town
Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons. This idea looks pretty solidly townie. Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum.
Here we see one hour separating "batsnacks I think you're scum" and "This idea looks pretty solidly townie." That post from bat was made three days prior. Why did this not have any effect on your read before?
On September 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,
Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice. I'm still trying to figure that out. Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town: Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum? I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it? I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump. He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh.
And here we are, one hour later, and you're back to "I'm still trying to figure that out." I can't tell if this is an honest approximation of "I'm re-reading and can't come to a conclusion yet" or "shit, I realized my inconsistency and should probably say something noncommittal so I can't be pinned for it." Who wins? Who's next? You decide.
On September 06 2014 02:40 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:34 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 05 2014 19:57 kushm4sta wrote:
So poorer u disagree about batsnacks why ? Weird how I'm your top scum read due to inactivity, I do stuff, and then you don't even feel the need to comment on it. Its not about the activity its about how much I think you care about the game and you frankly don't seem to care. I thought at first you cared but now I'm just not seeing it like I have before. that's a sketchy as fuck thing to base a read on. you aren't me. You don't truly know my current level of caring AND you don't know how business could affect my level of caring.
This was the kicker though. This post comes between the first two I've quoted timeline-wise, and takes place approximately one hour before you use the same "sketchy" (translation: scummy) reasoning in your post about bat. I'll re-quote it, in case you forgot:
On September 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,
Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice. I'm still trying to figure that out. Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town: Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum? I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it? I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump. He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh.
So, with my case on the table, I will repeat my ultimatum. You will either post your list of updated reads with reasons for each, post a clear and concise explanation of why bat couldn't be scum, or you will be lynched. Make your choice.
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Don't talk like that to people. All you will do is piss them off. Iwill do as much as I want to/have time for. Your ultimatum means nothing to me.
In response to your long winded bullshit above I will say
Yes I change my mind about stuff because it's more important to me to be right than to be consistent.
My read of batsnacks is more nuanced and less certain than poofters read of myself. Your comparison of the two is not apt.
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On September 06 2014 03:17 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 03:11 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 06 2014 02:42 kushm4sta wrote:
like that is tied up in so much bad meta, and you aren't even considering the recent change in my life situation A lot of players who I respect have ALWAYS talked about that being a good read on you so why would it be bad meta? I get the feeling from your posts that you're scum caught for what you consider a "bad" reason because you're not arguing about how you think I'm wrong but more about how the meta is bad and that its silly that that is the reason. Like subconsciously you know there is a reason but you don't think mine is good. during the school year I am often known to have terrible activity d1 or terrible activity for the entire game. Actually last town game I got mislynched d2? i think because of inactivity. Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 03:11 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 06 2014 02:45 kushm4sta wrote:
?? so you had me as town, then my tone changed a little, a now you have me as scum?? that is nebulous. You play one way at the start then you started playing/sounding different so my read flipped. How is that nebulous? It's nebulous because I changed in a way you can only describe as "tone", and you don't point to any specific evidence. Also, if I was acting townie then, and scummy now, what makes my behavior then less telling than my behavior now?
I have seen low activity kush look townie based on your give a fuck and like I said I didn't see it this game after a flash of it at the start of the game so activity I understand can be low (I've had low activity the last two games because of that.) I just am not sure I see the the town!kush.
I will say this the way you have been posting the last hour or two FEELS more townie in general.
Can you give me your feelings on bunny aside from your love proposal? Also What do you think of Oats? I'm assuming you think these people are townie based on your reads list earlier where you left both of them off but apparently you hadn't even read Damdred and he was on your scum list so if you read these people what might you think?
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On September 06 2014 04:25 3d12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 04:09 kushm4sta wrote:
3d I made a post explaining why I was reconsidering my bat read. 2 posts actually. Read them? I have been reading. In fact, I've probably been reading more than you would like me to: Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum? Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:59 kushm4sta wrote:Reconsideration of batsnacks as town
On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons. This idea looks pretty solidly townie. Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum. Here we see one hour separating "batsnacks I think you're scum" and "This idea looks pretty solidly townie." That post from bat was made three days prior. Why did this not have any effect on your read before? Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,
Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice. I'm still trying to figure that out. Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town: On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum? I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it? I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump. He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh. And here we are, one hour later, and you're back to "I'm still trying to figure that out." I can't tell if this is an honest approximation of "I'm re-reading and can't come to a conclusion yet" or "shit, I realized my inconsistency and should probably say something noncommittal so I can't be pinned for it." Who wins? Who's next? You decide. Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:40 kushm4sta wrote:On September 06 2014 02:34 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 05 2014 19:57 kushm4sta wrote:
So poorer u disagree about batsnacks why ? Weird how I'm your top scum read due to inactivity, I do stuff, and then you don't even feel the need to comment on it. Its not about the activity its about how much I think you care about the game and you frankly don't seem to care. I thought at first you cared but now I'm just not seeing it like I have before. that's a sketchy as fuck thing to base a read on. you aren't me. You don't truly know my current level of caring AND you don't know how business could affect my level of caring. This was the kicker though. This post comes between the first two I've quoted timeline-wise, and takes place approximately one hour before you use the same "sketchy" (translation: scummy) reasoning in your post about bat. I'll re-quote it, in case you forgot: Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,
Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice. I'm still trying to figure that out. Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town: On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum? I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it? I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump. He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh. So, with my case on the table, I will repeat my ultimatum. You will either post your list of updated reads with reasons for each, post a clear and concise explanation of why bat couldn't be scum, or you will be lynched. Make your choice.
Look at 3d12 growing some balls. LOL You kush you going to concede now?
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On September 06 2014 03:53 kitaman27 wrote:A) Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 04:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
But it really disgusts me how many people went afk and didn't give a shit. Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 12:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to sheep Vivax because I don't feel like doing anything.
See you. B) Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 04 2014 02:47 kushm4sta wrote:
yo whens flip
What the fuck are you doing this game? Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how almost everyone is okay with me doing nothing. Somebody get this guy a mirror. It's really tempting to lynch him, just so we don't have to hear the "LOL I DID NOTHING AND GOT AWAY WITH IT. SUCK IT TOWN" speech at endgame. Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I never post reads dude. I always hide them until I have an ironclad case or unless I have a really strong townread, of which I have neither. I think you should have had more than enough time to put together an ironclad case by now.
I guess I'm not seeing what exactly you're calling Obi scum for. Just that he hasn't made his case?
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To Expand I get that you think its annoying but you really want to lynch someone because they might say "LAWL I was obvscum and you didn't see me doing shit"?
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poof baby i will make a new list for you
(batsnacks) maybe
kitaman27
Oatsmaster
Vivax
(Obiwan) maybe but dont think so
mderg
27ninjabunnies
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On September 06 2014 05:08 kushm4sta wrote:
poof baby i will make a new list for you
(batsnacks) maybe
kitaman27
Oatsmaster
Vivax
(Obiwan) maybe but dont think so
mderg
27ninjabunnies
This is your scumpile I'm assuming right?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 06 2014 04:58 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 03:53 kitaman27 wrote:A) On September 04 2014 04:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
But it really disgusts me how many people went afk and didn't give a shit. On September 05 2014 12:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to sheep Vivax because I don't feel like doing anything.
See you. B) On September 04 2014 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 04 2014 02:47 kushm4sta wrote:
yo whens flip
What the fuck are you doing this game? On September 03 2014 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how almost everyone is okay with me doing nothing. Somebody get this guy a mirror. It's really tempting to lynch him, just so we don't have to hear the "LOL I DID NOTHING AND GOT AWAY WITH IT. SUCK IT TOWN" speech at endgame. On September 03 2014 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I never post reads dude. I always hide them until I have an ironclad case or unless I have a really strong townread, of which I have neither. I think you should have had more than enough time to put together an ironclad case by now. I guess I'm not seeing what exactly you're calling Obi scum for. Just that he hasn't made his case?
For being a hypocrite. He states how he is "disgusted" by others absence and then afks himself. He calls kush out for activity after bragging about doing nothing himself. And yes, I'm also requesting a case.
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On September 06 2014 05:29 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 04:58 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 06 2014 03:53 kitaman27 wrote:A) On September 04 2014 04:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
But it really disgusts me how many people went afk and didn't give a shit. On September 05 2014 12:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to sheep Vivax because I don't feel like doing anything.
See you. B) On September 04 2014 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 04 2014 02:47 kushm4sta wrote:
yo whens flip
What the fuck are you doing this game? On September 03 2014 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how almost everyone is okay with me doing nothing. Somebody get this guy a mirror. It's really tempting to lynch him, just so we don't have to hear the "LOL I DID NOTHING AND GOT AWAY WITH IT. SUCK IT TOWN" speech at endgame. On September 03 2014 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I never post reads dude. I always hide them until I have an ironclad case or unless I have a really strong townread, of which I have neither. I think you should have had more than enough time to put together an ironclad case by now. I guess I'm not seeing what exactly you're calling Obi scum for. Just that he hasn't made his case? For being a hypocrite. He states how he is "disgusted" by others absence and then afks himself. He calls kush out for activity after bragging about doing nothing himself. And yes, I'm also requesting a case.
I feel like his attitude is not scumOBI I was scum with him in world cup and he was super reserved and was scared to post. I don't get that vibe from him. I used a similar read in Heavy Weight on him If I remember correctly. I don't like the hypocrisy of being disgusted and afking. That is what I thought Micchan was scum for turns out he was just afk not caring town. I think Obi is town here as well.
I would love to hear the case from him though.
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::crickets::
Did we ever get a vote count?
Mod plz
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I will be out for awhile. Someone wake up the mod so we can get a vote count. If Its not up by the time I get back.
Plz Plz Plz talk more!! We need to hit a mafia today or the game becomes VERY difficult.
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