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Can this be mafia on mafia?
On July 09 2014 16:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 16:23 Corazon wrote:On July 09 2014 16:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: depends on what you give me in return. It's idiots like you that made me not play for 6 months... I'm definitely not playing again after this game. Put some fucking effort in this game. There's no point in me trying if half of the players don't bother to do the same at all. i dont get why youre so mad at me after i just intended to try and get back into the game. also, for the record, i just went through his filter and confirmed my thought.
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Koshi, I really don't think Cora is mafia.
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Ok. Robik will be totes mad if Cora stays alive and scum wins though.
prplhz saying he is the best player in this game and that the game is completely lost awards him this vote: ##unvote ##vote: prplhz
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I don't like that reasoning as a scum tell koshi.
Why not mderg ? There are real reasons to suspect him.
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Why do you ask me about mderg again? I told you already what I think of mderg and I put him in a list with 4 other scummers.
prplhz is also scum.
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FUCK.
I was not allowed to vote for prplhz because he was the riddle master.
Well bad luck for him.
Shouldn't be so damn scummy.
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I also doubt that Jimi Hendrix is mafia
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I should stay a bit afk. Let other people do stuff.
Remember this is a very short day. So start voting.
Don't let scum hide.
VOTE
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Every townie should have at least 1 scumread. Otherwise you are not doing your job.
So vote so that mafia has to make up at least 1 scumread.
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I'm going to be 100% honest with everybody here, I don't like being super active day 1, and my vote on Obi was because at the time I voted I thought he was a better lynch candidate than forumite. I'm glad he flipped scum, but I didn't have any great analytical reasons for voting him.
Now that the day 1 votes are in I'll be able to start analyzing things based on voting+posting. I'm gonna wait until World Cup Mafia wraps up in a few hours, then move on over here to do that.
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I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi.
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On July 10 2014 21:12 Koshi wrote:mderg is way too much in this thread to be going forward so slow. I also know for a fact mderg can just powerread and play in the present time. I do not know why he is playing like he is playing. He should say why. Somewhere he says he will need 2 more days to catch up. hahahaha. So silly. So untrue. And I am sure mderg is pretty active this game because: Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 02:38 mderg wrote:On July 10 2014 02:33 27ninjabunnies wrote: Someone unvote so mafia doesnt hammer that shit. Would you prefer a no lynch over an iamperfection lynch? He knows how close we are to an iamperfection lynch, he himself has not yet voted, but he seems to be pushing an iamperfection lynch here? I think mderg is smart enough to know that waiting on iamp his last post would be a good call. Especially if mderg is around to help the hammer. We still had 3 hours. mderg posts a lot of things while catching up, but I have the feeling he is pretty up to date. Him scumreading yamato is also pretty meh. yamato was not hiding at all on this iamp lynch. You are right that I could powerread this thread and play in the present. But that would mean that I have basically no idea about anything that happened. Good luck powerreading about 60 pages and remembering anything after that.
How are you supposed to know how long it takes for me to catch up with the thread? You don´t know how fast I read, you don´t know how much time I´m spending on this, you don´t know what else is going on in my life. Stating anything like that is completely ridiculous.
Of course I knew how close you were to an iamperfection lynch, I said that I was kinda reading what´s new, and that I did. But I had no idea why he was getting lynched, so I didn´t really have an opinion on him. My post you quoted was just about prefering an iamperfection lynch over a no lynch since a no lynch sucks. I also didn´t expect anyone to hammer him so early because it makes basically no sense to do that as any alignment.
You also didn´t address kush´s and layabout´s points on me which make far more sense than the bullshit you said.
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Why is this a short day? I'm starting to think koshi is scummy for blatantly shit reasons behind his votes.
Koshi if you have a list of possible scum, why are you voting for the ones with the least evidence of being scum?
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On July 10 2014 23:59 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 21:12 Koshi wrote:mderg is way too much in this thread to be going forward so slow. I also know for a fact mderg can just powerread and play in the present time. I do not know why he is playing like he is playing. He should say why. Somewhere he says he will need 2 more days to catch up. hahahaha. So silly. So untrue. And I am sure mderg is pretty active this game because: On July 10 2014 02:38 mderg wrote:On July 10 2014 02:33 27ninjabunnies wrote: Someone unvote so mafia doesnt hammer that shit. Would you prefer a no lynch over an iamperfection lynch? He knows how close we are to an iamperfection lynch, he himself has not yet voted, but he seems to be pushing an iamperfection lynch here? I think mderg is smart enough to know that waiting on iamp his last post would be a good call. Especially if mderg is around to help the hammer. We still had 3 hours. mderg posts a lot of things while catching up, but I have the feeling he is pretty up to date. Him scumreading yamato is also pretty meh. yamato was not hiding at all on this iamp lynch. You are right that I could powerread this thread and play in the present. But that would mean that I have basically no idea about anything that happened. Good luck powerreading about 60 pages and remembering anything after that. How are you supposed to know how long it takes for me to catch up with the thread? You don´t know how fast I read, you don´t know how much time I´m spending on this, you don´t know what else is going on in my life. Stating anything like that is completely ridiculous. Of course I knew how close you were to an iamperfection lynch, I said that I was kinda reading what´s new, and that I did. But I had no idea why he was getting lynched, so I didn´t really have an opinion on him. My post you quoted was just about prefering an iamperfection lynch over a no lynch since a no lynch sucks. I also didn´t expect anyone to hammer him so early because it makes basically no sense to do that as any alignment. You also didn´t address kush´s and layabout´s points on me which make far more sense than the bullshit you said.
It would be way more useful if you didn't focus on yourself and instead try to figure out who the scum is. Not that it's completely useless cause it demonstrates your defensive attitude but if you're town you won't convince anyone of that if you don't show that you're actively trying out to figure out the game and commit to your opinions.
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We agreed on a cora lynch. I don't feel the need to bring out all his posts and uncover all the lies he has made thus far.
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On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote: I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. Here are some posts that look like pretty clear scumreading to me:
On July 10 2014 19:31 mderg wrote:Reading the conversation between yamato and iamperfect is just awful. I have to check like 5 times every post to see who posted it because they both have an archon as profile pic. Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 08:12 yamato77 wrote: you're not that high on my townlist
I could see lynching you Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 08:16 yamato77 wrote: remember, I nailed you to the wall in catastrophe
I know how to read you I don´t like this by yamato. Keeping options open on iamperfection without a definite read but at the same time bragging about being able to read him. Seems scummy to me.
On July 10 2014 08:44 mderg wrote:Some more catching up. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 23:33 Toadesstern wrote:Okay I don't think this answer from forumite fits at all: On July 08 2014 20:52 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:27 Toadesstern wrote: waitwaitwait. That reasoning is stupid as hell but people use it. I do the same whenever I'm dealing with VE and it works wonders. No problem there and towniepoints for not being afraid to mention something that ridiculous lol.
However, this "strategy" is so odd that he shouldn't be expecting other people to use it as well. He's basicly stating that prplhz is town because he looks slightly scummy. If anything the guy should be gushing over me about how I'm a god at mafia for seeing that but STILL being wrong nonetheless according to him. Right? Yes, he did consider chainsawing you for reading prplhz as scum while he read prplhz as scum. The plot thickings *dum dum dum* exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far. That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town". I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads. mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing". You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset. This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read? I just don't see that fitting in with the rest. So he tells me to unvote, without an explanation while KNOWING that the townread on prplhz isn't obvious. And he doesn't try to stop me from voting prplhz either. But still proceeds to mention the read in the first place for no apparent reason and feels the need to tell people that he's smarter than to just chainsaw someone. This all sounds really fishy for me. The realization that a vote/attack on me would look stupid comming from himself. Sure he says it would be a stupid thing to do but well... Add to that that I'm not a fan of giving random townreads out like they're candy when you don't have a reason to do so, because it's the easiest thing in the world for mafia to do to look like they're doing something because they don't even have to lie about it and can later on come back and yell at people "told ya I was right about him" if a lynch happens... The reason I'm posting about this? If you ignore those weird parts inbetween he actually looks genuine recently and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'll keep my vote on him for now but I need to check him out again. I kinda like this post. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 23:33 IAmRobik wrote: . . . I did however agree with VE's read on mderg. I think he was the one who said that he was afraid to interact. He was more than happy to engage with people in previous games and seems less than active in this game. Obviously the two of them wouldn't be scum buddies though. . . .
I already said that comment from me was not to be taken seriously and I thought the smiley in my post made that obvious. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 23:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I actually like yamato and I'm nullish leaning town on prplhz, so I'm actually gonna stop pushing mderg becase A) I'm not getting any support for it and B) because ObiWan is an equally good lynch fmp. So yeah.
##Unvote ##Vote: ObiWanShinobi This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me. So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie. Going to bed now. If it goes on like this, I will have caught up in about 2 days...
I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those.
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i agree with all the people who say that mderg is scummy
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So your scumreads are Cora, forum and yamato?
Do you still scumread yamato?
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Mderg when did your opinion on cora change?
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