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Now, I'm sick and tired of talking to myself so I'll wait for people to actually post stuff
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Haru I agree about bm. Dunno about cora.
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cora's weird reads, low activity, horrible hammer, and subsequent disappearance means that he's scum.
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I'd be up for a cora lynch. Wanted rob and Iamp gone and then that hammer. Even though we got good results from the hammer just seemed like a scum type move.
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Iamp was a steal. I would have hammered as mafia. I think Cora knew what he was doing.
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On July 11 2014 01:35 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 00:25 mderg wrote:On July 11 2014 00:12 Vivax wrote:
So your scumreads are Cora, forum and yamato?
Do you still scumread yamato? You forgot VE. He was on ObiWanShinobi, right? Then I´m not sure about him anymore. Not impossible that they´re scumbuddies but unlikely. On July 11 2014 00:19 Damdred wrote:
Mderg when did your opinion on cora change? On July 10 2014 19:58 mderg wrote:On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote:
Alright, so about Iamp:
Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.
I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.
On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.
I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance. This just doesn´t make sense. Why would you want to lynch Robik who has a disgustingly long filter? You don´t really want to lynch iamperfect D1 because he has a long filter but you want to lynch Robik who also has a long filter. You would only need to click on Robik´s filter to see that this doesn´t make any sense. so you also saw how atrocious cora is playing now. Do something, vote him. Or else I will take this as a scum motive and move away from my cora wagon to mderg wagon for playing only when you're asked to
Yeah, Cora is really scummy but we still have quite some time left. What do you mean by playing only when I´m asked to?
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On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw
WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious.
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On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious.
So they changed their vote after bm said that even tho it was very close to eod??
And how do you have a town read enough on bm to believe in that conspiracy?
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You'll never believe me, but I was the one who killed Obi.
I'm a one-shot vig who can only shoot people who voted for a mislynch. I chose Obi cause I didn't like his non-effort in the game. Guess I got lucky ^^
Anyways, I'm gonna vote Robik. Lynch me if you want, I don't care. It will be a mislynch.
See you guys Night 2
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Oh shit, Robik is dead.
What a fucking idiot, he should really never play a game of Mafia again.
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I'm just gonna vote for myself because I don't feel like playing anymore.
Later
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On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious.
Rules tells me that palmar will only accept night actions 1 hour before the deadline
And robik only said that within the hour, which palmar wasn't going to accept it
WIFOM with cheeseburger
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On July 11 2014 02:27 Corazon wrote:
I'm just gonna vote for myself because I don't feel like playing anymore.
Later
I refuse to vote for anyone who votes for themselves
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Join me on my crusade
We are lynching Bill Murray/Mderg today
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On July 11 2014 02:13 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious. So they changed their vote after bm said that even tho it was very close to eod?? And how do you have a town read enough on bm to believe in that conspiracy?
Not impossible that scum was there.
bm is null for me. What makes me believe in that "conspiracy" is that bm may could have changed the kill. It´s 100% WIFOM, though.
On July 11 2014 02:33 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious. Rules tells me that palmar will only accept night actions 1 hour before the deadline And robik only said that within the hour, which palmar wasn't going to accept it WIFOM with cheeseburger
Read the op, it clearly says that mafia nightkills can be changed within the last hour.
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On July 11 2014 02:38 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 02:13 kushm4sta wrote:On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious. So they changed their vote after bm said that even tho it was very close to eod?? And how do you have a town read enough on bm to believe in that conspiracy? Not impossible that scum was there. bm is null for me. What makes me believe in that "conspiracy" is that bm may could have changed the kill. It´s 100% WIFOM, though. Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 02:33 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious. Rules tells me that palmar will only accept night actions 1 hour before the deadline And robik only said that within the hour, which palmar wasn't going to accept it WIFOM with cheeseburger Read the op, it clearly says that mafia nightkills can be changed within the last hour.
My fault then
But I have a case on you wait up
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On July 11 2014 02:27 Corazon wrote:
I'm just gonna vote for myself because I don't feel like playing anymore.
Later
Never suffer a martyr to live.
##vote Corazon
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On July 11 2014 00:06 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. Here are some posts that look like pretty clear scumreading to me: Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 19:31 mderg wrote:Reading the conversation between yamato and iamperfect is just awful. I have to check like 5 times every post to see who posted it because they both have an archon as profile pic. On July 09 2014 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
you're not that high on my townlist
I could see lynching you On July 09 2014 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
remember, I nailed you to the wall in catastrophe
I know how to read you I don´t like this by yamato. Keeping options open on iamperfection without a definite read but at the same time bragging about being able to read him. Seems scummy to me. Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 08:44 mderg wrote:Some more catching up. On July 08 2014 23:33 Toadesstern wrote:Okay I don't think this answer from forumite fits at all: On July 08 2014 20:52 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:27 Toadesstern wrote:
waitwaitwait. That reasoning is stupid as hell but people use it. I do the same whenever I'm dealing with VE and it works wonders. No problem there and towniepoints for not being afraid to mention something that ridiculous lol.
However, this "strategy" is so odd that he shouldn't be expecting other people to use it as well. He's basicly stating that prplhz is town because he looks slightly scummy. If anything the guy should be gushing over me about how I'm a god at mafia for seeing that but STILL being wrong nonetheless according to him. Right? Yes, he did consider chainsawing you for reading prplhz as scum while he read prplhz as scum. The plot thickings *dum dum dum* exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far. That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town". I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads. mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing". You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset. This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read? I just don't see that fitting in with the rest. So he tells me to unvote, without an explanation while KNOWING that the townread on prplhz isn't obvious. And he doesn't try to stop me from voting prplhz either. But still proceeds to mention the read in the first place for no apparent reason and feels the need to tell people that he's smarter than to just chainsaw someone. This all sounds really fishy for me. The realization that a vote/attack on me would look stupid comming from himself. Sure he says it would be a stupid thing to do but well... Add to that that I'm not a fan of giving random townreads out like they're candy when you don't have a reason to do so, because it's the easiest thing in the world for mafia to do to look like they're doing something because they don't even have to lie about it and can later on come back and yell at people "told ya I was right about him" if a lynch happens... The reason I'm posting about this? If you ignore those weird parts inbetween he actually looks genuine recently and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'll keep my vote on him for now but I need to check him out again. I kinda like this post. On July 08 2014 23:33 IAmRobik wrote:
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I did however agree with VE's read on mderg. I think he was the one who said that he was afraid to interact. He was more than happy to engage with people in previous games and seems less than active in this game. Obviously the two of them wouldn't be scum buddies though.
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I already said that comment from me was not to be taken seriously and I thought the smiley in my post made that obvious. On July 08 2014 23:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I actually like yamato and I'm nullish leaning town on prplhz, so I'm actually gonna stop pushing mderg becase A) I'm not getting any support for it and B) because ObiWan is an equally good lynch fmp. So yeah.
##Unvote
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me. So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie. Going to bed now. If it goes on like this, I will have caught up in about 2 days... I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those.
For a record, let's distinguish between Scumhunting and Posting opinions
The words ' like ' ' don´t like ' indicates opinion. Not scumhunting. You never actively called someone scum yet. You have yet to post any proper reads that isn't replying to posts. Your tone indicates a huge buttload of passivity - almost like you are unwilling to do a proper read. Almost all your posts were on replies to posts about you. This is why I said that you were posting mostly when asked to.
'I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those.'
If it is less clear, it doesn't exist. No solid read from you, at all. I need you to pick your scumreads now. No more wishy-washy reads. I literally cannot gather any info from you other than your passing comments.
##Vote: Mderg
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On July 11 2014 01:32 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. elaborate
Mainly for the activity thingy where he decided to give leeway to iamp but not to Robik, I couldn't really see the scum agenda behind it.
But thinking it through twice then that makes his iamp hammer even more illogical, so I'm taking that back, it was rash.
I have a hard time believing that he was the guy who shot Obi:
On July 10 2014 03:23 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:On July 10 2014 02:41 Corazon wrote:
Fuck it, Robik's just playing like an idiot.
I'll just fucking ignore everything he says and look for other lynch targets. It's pretty obvious that no one wants him lynched but me and we need a majority so...
##unvote: Robik
##Vote: Iamp[/B[ WHO'S PLAYING LIKE AN IDIOT NOW!??!?!?!? Please just do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up. You're just spewing out the stupidest shit ever just so people can read you as town. [b]Someone vig this idiot, please.
Now he comes in with a claim that's supposed to save his ass, but then still martyrs even though he should have an entirely different attitude if he actually just shot scum.
I would like the guy who shot Obi to claim cause I don't believe this guy.
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On July 11 2014 02:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 01:32 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. elaborate Mainly for the activity thingy where he decided to give leeway to iamp but not to Robik, I couldn't really see the scum agenda behind it. But thinking it through twice then that makes his iamp hammer even more illogical, so I'm taking that back, it was rash. I have a hard time believing that he was the guy who shot Obi: Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:23 Corazon wrote:On July 10 2014 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:On July 10 2014 02:41 Corazon wrote:
Fuck it, Robik's just playing like an idiot.
I'll just fucking ignore everything he says and look for other lynch targets. It's pretty obvious that no one wants him lynched but me and we need a majority so...
##unvote: Robik
##Vote: Iamp[/B[ WHO'S PLAYING LIKE AN IDIOT NOW!??!?!?!? Please just do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up. You're just spewing out the stupidest shit ever just so people can read you as town. [b]Someone vig this idiot, please. Now he comes in with a claim that's supposed to save his ass, but then still martyrs even though he should have an entirely different attitude if he actually just shot scum. I would like the guy who shot Obi to claim cause I don't believe this guy.
I don't believe that vig only have 1 shot. Thus it's unwise to ask for a claim now.
As for cora, he is just seeking his own grave. Being unable to reply to ANY of the reads posted about him, he is certainly a viable lynch.
Now we just need a second/third wagon and we are set. I am going to push Mderg.
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