TL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2 - Page 92

On July 10 2014 12:46 HiroPro wrote:
I think I'm going to go back to ignoring everyone.

On July 10 2014 12:55 kushm4sta wrote:
im unconvinced of either of your towninesses.

On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

On July 08 2014 03:22 batsnacks wrote:


Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments.

In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game.

On July 09 2014 10:19 batsnacks wrote:
I haven't read the part of the thread where this takes place yet so maybe I'm missing some important context BUT: Anyone who asks people to vote for them is scummy. So if you're town reading someone for saying "vote me" I have issues with that.

I agree with the suspicion on damdred though. His posting is really careful and thorough like he's trying not to make mistakes and give people ammunition against him. Reading his filter, looking at this post:



He's treading really, really lightly and a lot of his posts are like that. Careful, apologetic. And the "lol" is out of place. His posts are impeccably formatted; he doesn't even use contractions, but somehow a random "lol" shows up.

On July 10 2014 09:11 layabout wrote:
wow mderg that's pretty scummy

you haven't changed at all since:

Wait it's an omgus, that's almost an action

On July 10 2014 10:08 layabout wrote:
at page 42 and i can't believe that koshi could head up a wagon

kinda don't want to post properly yet but since you insist kush..


kush the very statement that VE was convinced mderg was scum is untrue.
If you look at VE's posts around the time he is clearly willing to move to Exo could get behind a forumite lynch and is open to nearly anyone that isn't very active as a potential lynch.

Hell look at his vote post:





Click the nested bit!!
mderg says that that isn't "close to a scumread" however, I would say it's a description of scummy behavior making it pretty much "close to a scumread" mderg is either lying or is inattentive.

His actions not only fit but match VE's day1 play in nearly every game i have seen him in. VE's vote typically bounces around all over the place. VE is clearly open to a number of lynches and is actively considering other lynche candidate eg corazon. Mderg's point that VE swapped from a hard read to someone who he didn't think was scummy is also totally misrepresentative.

mderg is not only adding a throwaway point but one that is not valid

If you still aren't convinced about VE give this a read:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?user=VisceraEyes&page=2

mderg addresses VE's switch by suggesting that VE never thought mderg was mafia in the first place
This leaves the idea that VE is mafia and acted knowing that mderg is town,
not just in a way suggest's VE is mafia because mderg thinks VE is mafia. This is making a point in the way mafia might attempt to as they benefit from doing so.

I will likely get onto this later but nothing looked town about obiwan's entrance into the thread and i am surprised it hasn't been jumped on yet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22528115

On July 09 2014 03:11 HaruRH wrote:


Fine.

I am not defending anyone. Since you're my lynch target, I want to know every single one of your moves to decide if you're the correct lynch for today.

But voting for robik with 0 reasom is probably not a good way to avoid a majority lynch.

On July 09 2014 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
you're not that high on my townlist

I could see lynching you

On July 09 2014 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
remember, I nailed you to the wall in catastrophe

I know how to read you

On July 10 2014 18:41 mderg wrote:

I think I remember you saying that you don´t make reads D1 in another game. Here it seems like you really want forumite to be lynched. What changed?

On July 09 2014 12:51 HaruRH wrote:


Dont worry, my d1 reads are usually rubbish since I need time to read up on responses, voting patterns and eod results before I come up with any solid conclusion.

Sometimes when I look back to my d1 reads I disagree with them too

On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote:
Alright, so about Iamp:

Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.

I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.

On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.

I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance.