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On July 09 2014 03:28 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:22 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers. You told us you will be killing lurkers today. Out of a sudden, BAM a robik vote. Of course I'll have to ask what are you trying to do. Toades pointed out that a lurker lynch doesn´t give info because scum can just go with the flow and lynch some poor lurker without guilt. It´s better to leave them for vigilantes.
1) your insistence on lynching town bothers me
2) weren't you hard against coza or am I imagining things? If so, why would you want to lynch the person who you suspect is voting as well
3) i'm town, so see point 1
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On July 09 2014 03:19 Koshi wrote:So there are 8 people on Forumite. Interesting. Let's all talk about iamperfection for a while. This is the awesome case foolishness made against iamp in catastrophe mafia. (go to iamperfection no so perfect section). I already brought this up before but iamp is playing the same style he was playing in the Catastrophe game. This time he isn't utterly useless but he is pretty close. Maybe I can post 2-3 posts iamp made that are somewhat pushing the thread forward but that's really it. Robik townreads iamp for being firm early game, calling out my bullshit post, which was obviously just a conversation starter. Quite obviously so. Vivax townreads iamp because iamp is a bossy guy calling people doing dumb things out on their dumb things. I agree iamp has called out some people out doing silly things. But really? Is that why we are giving the most experienced player in this thread a townread for? Are we really so easily pleased? Come on lads. Look at this: Show nested quote +"iamperfection is one of the best examples of that this game," reports Foolishness. "His attempt to get people onto Balla24/Blazinghand is the most convenient case in the world. If you're mafia in a game, wouldn't you just love it if some idiot is proposing random lynch? You get to call him an idiot AND look town for doing so!" ↑ So yeah, iamp calls out dumb behavior. Good for him! But what does he do with it? What reasoning does he give when saying Kush should stop his stupid crusade? What reasoning did he give for making Robik unlynchable till D6? I am not impressed. You shouldn't be either. Going on: ↓ Show nested quote +Despite all that, iamperfection has yet to post a real read on a player or situation. The filter demonstrates that he doesn't have any true scumreads other than the easy picking Blazinghand and only has a few haphazard town reads. Secondly, iamperfection is making demands of the town without doing so himself. Is iamp posting reads this game? Do you see the overflowing quality this veteran player brings us? I don't. The guy makes the excuse to do nothing till ObiwanShinobi enters the thread, when ObiwanShinobi enters the thread iamp doesn't do anything but asks that ObiwanShinobi pleases him. He doesn't ask any specific questions. Why is Obiwan so special for iamp? Why can't iamp do nothing for multiple hours while waiting on Obiwan? Read the entire Foolishness case. Then see how much of it applies to this game. It is scary much. Do you also remember that I asked 27ninjabunnies what the 3 biggest discussion points where this game? Now look at how much iamperfection participated in these 3 topics. Close to fucking nothing.
##unvote
##vote iamperfectionThis lynch is glorious.
I actually like this a lot. I wasn't so sure about this because in my head he's always posting like that so I went to look up some other games he had as town recently because I haven't played in a year and I could always just be wrong.
As town he looks almost the same BUT he does produce good posts inbetween, posts that actually do something and posts that actually aren't just random 1 or 2 lines. He still does those 1 to 2 liners all the time but he's certainly got more good posts as town. Examples:
TL Noir:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 25 2013 09:11 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote:On September 25 2013 09:08 iamperfection wrote:
is cephiro in the game or did he get replaced? He's here. As is the Mattchew case. Gigogogo! as in you want a peek on my notes i guess i can oblige 27: Mattchew- scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum On September 25 2013 11:55 iamperfection wrote:1: DarthPunk/sb- town because dp being a little bitch about people calling him scum and then replacing out because of it means he is extremely likely to be town. Plus he was pretty active and in the spotlight day one anyways. 2: raynpelikoneet- town his most recent push on firm while misguides seemed legit at least and looked like he was at least trying to figure out alignments and overall good activity and seems to have been one of the major players. He is good as scum but i think he has been legit and real in his posts. 5: yamato77- town he just is plus he got protected and he wouldnt lie about that. Also was active before that 6: kushm4sta- dont know. Rember the days when he used to be meiocore at this game. Now it seems like he spends his time just bithcing and moaning. 8: ObviousOne- annoying but seems to have a matter fact way of not wanting to explain himself. bad but likely town. 10: FirmTofu- Town This kid is town he has explained himself over and over agains hasnt really been afraid of the spotlight. Also has used his time to contribute in the right way with pushing see umasi instead of just defending himself this is what you do as town when you have pressure on you. you give your reads and your thoughts regardless of the pressure you dont complain. He is town 11: Pandain- his sent push seems legit and seems to have some of the same reasoning i have. If he is thinking like means he is probally town. needs more actvity. 12: Cephiro- seems to be always catching up for some reason and his last catching up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=133#2647 he promised to be a good townie going forward he didnt do shit. honestly i dont really know but fuck it ill say scum because fuck him. 13: Mr. Cheesecake- im excused from reading him because i hate him. he will probally at some point afk from this game and be active somewhere else on tl. 14: decondu- confused about why yamato was town would likely know his scum team shot yamato so slight indication he might be town i dont feel strong about need to see more from him. 15: Coagulation- town no reason to not belive he is the vig with his and yamtos claims 16: Stutters695- martyer hate that shit but who knows probally bad town though 17: iamperfection- IC 18: Zenatsu/molango- a double lurker. A sure sign of the apoclypse. 19: [UoN]Sentinel- scum this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=85#1699 say absoloutly nothing on a major topic while sudetly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. He has given some decent reasoning for some his thoughts later on so he isnt my strongest scum read but that day 1 still reads as scum. 20: VisceraEyes- I dont really understand his existential crisis that he all of sudden for no real good reason but i dont see the scum motivation. Like he didnt use it as an excuse to not talk about the game as he is still talking so i would say town on him. has been generally active and talking about the game. His thinking that it may be possible both coag and yamato could be scum is kind of ridiclous as in to ridiclous to come from scum. 22: geript- scum his biggest contribution for the entire game was to tunnel dp and make him rage quit. outside of that the rest of his day one was useless and hasnt done anything this cycle scum 23: Risen- i dont fucking know hasnt really done anything could be scum in fact i would say leaning scum 24: LoneMeow- dont know: calling stuff wierd but not scummy here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=35#690 scum do that because they dont have the balls to actually call someone scum. fucking martyer. suspicious of umasi though gives me pause might be super bad town. plus these days people who martyer have kind of been flipping town unfortunatly. 25: marvellosity- Town seems active and intrested i will say town and improve my record of reading him almost always correctly. seems to have setled into the role of town leader. 26: Zaragon- scum played the im a newbie card kind of wierd that he would go after ve as scum but in effect his vote was wasted and did nothing of vlaue. Says stuff like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=87#1721 says sent isnt great case but leaning scum????????? dont know what that means. and wants to say im not sure it seems a lot and never really reaches solid conlusions that much. 27: Mattchew- scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum Umasi- scumi will give credit to firmtofu here i think he made solid point here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=151#3011 hes scum for that i would say 29: justanothertownie- was going to stay up to see my post +1 for eagerly awaiting iamperfection posts. outside of that he hasnt done a ton and hasnt had strong reads but seems to be self aware of that fact in a matter of fact way. My gut would say town. 30: Mocsta- towni like his case been active extremely likely town i would say efort etc.... On September 25 2013 22:53 iamperfection wrote:
mattchews defense looks real i would say town on him plus it wasnt just defense he gave some reads and seems like he is trying to put 2 and 2 together.
Cephiro lynch would be ok maybe like 55 60 percent. Shity way for him to play as scum but i could definitely see a scum using his constant ill totes contribute later and just never do it.
panda bear guy im not so hot on for his lynch. Basically it isnt super clear who he wants to lynch the most right now even though he said he aims to do that today. like with mattchews defense i don't really know who i want to lynch either so i don't think that's a smoking gun. best course of action would be just to see what he does today.
GoT:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 08 2013 23:10 iamperfection wrote:
like i dont know where your going with this acro like i said to you in pm about
xatlos
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i will tell you this
1. he put himself out for lord first of any of us
2. Has been very active in pms
3. aggressive towards grack
I would say those would points would indicate him more likely to be town
On August 09 2013 10:32 iamperfection wrote:
This message is for everyone. We are simply not lynching ryan or acro under any circumstances this cycle and i want your help to find the true scum in this game. Regardless of what you think of the two their activity alone makes them not the best chance to lynch scum. We all know that scum tend b e less active than town and like to lurk in the shadows. This biting each others heads off serves no purpose but to create an atmospher not productive to town because it allows to lurkers to continue to lurk and the scum along with them.
I want to know have nonposters in your house been active in pms. Gumshoe has contacted me stating that he will be on later and as of yet still hasnt posted. I havent heard from grack to last night. I want to know if any non posters are in contact with you and if you have suspicion of them from their n0 commitment and recent pms. regardless if they are pm'ing you i want to know why they arent posting in the thread. IE ( Sharrant is in contact with you but isnt posting in the thread acro)
these are the pieces of shit that come to mind
FirmTofu- Decided to complain about activity and did nothing else
Gumshoe- Had a good feeling from pms that he was town but is mia
Grack- Mia since last night
Kush- Non contributer who i want kp directed at because he can contribute as town and isnt
nacho- non poster and i havent heard anything about his pms
Sharrant- as stated before On August 09 2013 22:34 iamperfection wrote:totes town Dandelion[green]- Been active with his thoughts interested in the game had a same thought as me when calling out a weak post as s&b. I will eat my hat if he is scum Xatols- Active making logical conclusions in both pms and in thread Oatsmaster- Shit up the thread with yamato putting the spotlight on both of them. Has put his thought in actively since then as well. weaker town reads. [green]Risen Lol worst analysis that i have ever seen in a game for such a long post but seems like quite the commitment for scum to make. ClarityNl Was under a ton of pressure for the leak the name stuff. For someone who was under so much pressure he was able to explain himself fairly well and didnt run away. I think if he were scum he would have had much more difficulty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ scum city Vivax Vivax is a player that can contribute a lot as town and can even catch scum. He has done next to nothing in this game and seems like a guy just going with the flow and not sharing his thought process or actively trying to hunt like he usally does. Vivax should be one of the leaders of this town and he is not doing it for whatever reason. this post is wierd http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047¤tpage=47#939Why is he not actively giving his thoughts and he actually never gives thoughts just asks a useless question. and my f5 snipe just caught this Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:On August 09 2013 05:28 Acrofales wrote:Hrmmm, playing a game of elimination, Vivax is the remaining member of House Stark. On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion. I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two. This seems like a really strange soft-defense of Oatsmaster. Either he was completely oblivious to the goings on in his own house, or he had a town read based on that. I am confused about why he stood up to defend Oatsmaster's honor: he's not calling Koshi scum based on it, in fact there are no conclusions at all. With the knowledge that he had already talked to Oats in private this just looks like a baseless soft-defense of a house member who it seems he should have been suspicious of. Anybody from House Stark (or Vivax himself) want to elaborate on Vivax's role in the internal politicking? Vivax, why did you make this soft-defense post of Oats? I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case? I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment. I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement? @ OberynOn August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.
Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord? I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy. Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment. That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon. Where are vivaxs thoughts all he says is he is intrested to hear what other people are doing. Vivax is usally the one pushing for what he wants. I think vivax has a high probability of flipping scum. Kush He can spontaneously combust for all i care Gumshoe Weak but he bothered to contact me and hasn't posted why the fuck would he do that Sharrant Same as gum but with acro instead of me
Even just from a pure "how much text he's willing to post I can't find anything like that in catastrophe nor in this one
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On July 09 2014 02:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 01:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 09 2014 01:40 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody give me the 3 most important events that have happened in this thread. If you had to sum up the first 30 hours with 3 events. Or give me the 3 most important talking points. Yes. That. Pls. Imo: 1) Toads cases in the beginning pages, 2) The argument between you, prp, and forumite. 3) What's going on now with the wagon and spread out votes all over the place. ObiwanCan you talk about these 3 points. Remember how I said that you should buddy me in your next game and talk to me. Talk to me.
1) forumites early read on prp is awful and he should be getting a ton of flak for it, and toads case makes sense given the circumstances. toads corazon case was kinda meh because all it is is nitpicking at word choice and i think hes looking into that post way, way too much.
2) i never bother reading into this shit because the people that fight for pages upon pages are usually town. if you forced me to, id say forumites read is bad, and i dont like the way that hes already setting up for lylo or implying that you and he aren't the same alignment. the thing is that the rest of his filter is decent, and hes basically seeing the same thing im seeing with exo, so he cant be all bad, and i feel like im nitpicking about those things anyway.
prp's filter is okay. i dont see anything wrong with it.
koshi's filter looks fucking amazing, if i do say so myself. MAYBE IM BIASED IM NOT TRYING TO BUDDY HIM WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME.
3) its day 1 and thats generally what happens on day 1. id imagine town is going to coalesce at some point so idk why youre even bothering to ask me this question.
unless you want me to start moving votes with my mind.
back to thoughts i was originally having, there are two players i would like looked into rather than prp/you/forumite/toad:
a bunch of people stole what i wanted to post on exo. what i found odd is that haru is doing the same thing and everyone is giving him a pass:
When did I post something that isn't bad on d1?
Its my town meta yo
haru washes away his shitposts with the same reasoning of "im bad so i can feel free to do bad stuff" but i didnt see anyone calling him out for it, even though bunch of people jumped on exo for doing the same thing.
and then there's batsnacks, who wound up tossing down a shitvote and making an excuse in like his third post of the game:
Did I break a rule? Sorry I just got here.
batsnacks is normally kinda goofy but i hate excuses and this strikes me as out of character.
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On July 09 2014 03:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:25 ritoky wrote:On July 09 2014 01:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:I'd actually lynch Obiwan and Ritoky. I have a better case on Ritoky. He comes into the thread with this: On July 08 2014 04:51 ritoky wrote:
howdy everybody,
i am cop
i have a red check on bunnies and three dead green checks Which to me seems super forced, and a lame joke from previous games. (Those who played in those games understand) Then he has a back and forth with me, and basically just peaces out. Nothing productive at all, except maybe this post with toad/yamato On July 08 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:14 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 05:08 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:03 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 04:57 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 04:53 yamato77 wrote:
so let me get this straight forumite, you called prplhz town early on for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AT ALL, made a horrible read on toad based on this complete fabrication (which you still stand by), and are supposedly doing so because you can't read prplhz and don't want to waste town's time.
..................................................................................................................... ? where did you get the no reason at all part? didn't he post earlier that in all games where he got a slight scum read early on prp that prp ended up flipping town. as a result he has decided to flip his read? so when he get slight scum -> town, when gets town -> slight scum? i think he even posted about how he got the slight scum feels too when someone questioned it. you read the thread bro? There's two ways to inrepret that sentence: 1) "why did you post it - for no reason" 2) "how did you get to that conclusion - for no reason" The 2nd one would be a lie but considering that I aksed about the first one and forumite answered that very question I'm pretty sure that's what Yamato tried to say. Those are two completly different things. 1) so you're saying that his lack of an agenda behind his post makes him mafia on d1? Yeah I am not really buying that. If you want to call people out for posting without an agenda or posting useless stuff, your list gonna be pretty long. I don't see how him not having an agenda by calling someone town and then giving a reason why (albeit a bad reason) when asked makes him mafia. 2) you sure are really trying to throw a lot of shade based on very little. I say prplhz is mafia Forumite turns to me and tells ME "Toad, stop voting the guy, he's totally town" without explaining or trying to make me change my mind. He see's me trying to get a, supposedly, townie lynched and doesn't bother to do anything about it besides mentioning it. How is the lack of agenda in that one not a problem for you? Yo, ego-centric much? Don't have to bold and capitalize me. So what do you think? He's mafia deflecting off of mafia or mafia deflecting off of town? But even then, I don't see anything in the way of scumhunting. So ##Vote: RitokyAlso, I still have like 3 page to read, but wanted to get this out there. Your read on me is literally the worst ever lol. Your 1st point is dumb, go read Order, my 1st post is an America joke referencing the previous thread where I trolled with the power of freedom. Your 2nd point is dumb because I was scum hunting. I thought that what forum said was pretty stupid. Not necessarily scummy, but stupid. I felt that he was unfairly castigated for it, and very quickly by 2 people: toades and yamato. I kinda liked toades after I asked him questions so I backed off, but I didn't like yamato for sheeping toades and then vanishing. So I asked toades his read on yamato, and moved on. Since then I have been experiencing the wonders of valium and getting your wisdom teeth removed, and while I read the thread; I doubt the last 2 pages left any lasting impressions on me. All I remember is banks saying "hey hey hey, gonna read" then I saw him on video mafia, then he never posted. Also, a lot of people say they don't like VE, but I don't really get that; I like him quite a bit, but that may be the valium speaking. Maybe you should take advice from forum bunnies and flip your reads on certain people, i.e. me.  p.s. I actually made a pie last night. Jelly? How would you know if they made lasting impressions if you haven't even read the last 20 pages? I don't need to flip any of my reads, because I think I have pretty good reads this game. I totally agree banks (poofter for those of you who don't know) should step up his game. Also, I made homemade cheesecake, get rekt.
I said I did read them, but I read them under the influence of valium and oral surgery. Hence why I have sincere concerns about their level of weight in my mind.
You also thought you had good reads last game and basically town read the entire mafia
Also I dislike your agreeing with that one dude's reads post. For 2 reasons: 1) you like it, yet you disagree with 2 of his bolded reads. not just the normal one's, the bolded ones. 2) you didn't ask any questions about it. the super town bunnies i remember woulda been like NUH UH you don't just post a list without raisins (reasons) in MAH TOWN! But then again pretty sure you posted a list without raisins earlier.
Meh, I made strawberry rhubarb pie, depending on the flavor of the cheesecake I may have gotten rekt.
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Do I really have to catch up 40 pages? 
I won´t get that done today but I´ll post some thoughts while reading.
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On July 09 2014 03:47 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 09 2014 03:25 ritoky wrote:On July 09 2014 01:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:I'd actually lynch Obiwan and Ritoky. I have a better case on Ritoky. He comes into the thread with this: On July 08 2014 04:51 ritoky wrote:
howdy everybody,
i am cop
i have a red check on bunnies and three dead green checks Which to me seems super forced, and a lame joke from previous games. (Those who played in those games understand) Then he has a back and forth with me, and basically just peaces out. Nothing productive at all, except maybe this post with toad/yamato On July 08 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:14 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 05:08 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:03 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 04:57 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 04:53 yamato77 wrote:
so let me get this straight forumite, you called prplhz town early on for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AT ALL, made a horrible read on toad based on this complete fabrication (which you still stand by), and are supposedly doing so because you can't read prplhz and don't want to waste town's time.
..................................................................................................................... ? where did you get the no reason at all part? didn't he post earlier that in all games where he got a slight scum read early on prp that prp ended up flipping town. as a result he has decided to flip his read? so when he get slight scum -> town, when gets town -> slight scum? i think he even posted about how he got the slight scum feels too when someone questioned it. you read the thread bro? There's two ways to inrepret that sentence: 1) "why did you post it - for no reason" 2) "how did you get to that conclusion - for no reason" The 2nd one would be a lie but considering that I aksed about the first one and forumite answered that very question I'm pretty sure that's what Yamato tried to say. Those are two completly different things. 1) so you're saying that his lack of an agenda behind his post makes him mafia on d1? Yeah I am not really buying that. If you want to call people out for posting without an agenda or posting useless stuff, your list gonna be pretty long. I don't see how him not having an agenda by calling someone town and then giving a reason why (albeit a bad reason) when asked makes him mafia. 2) you sure are really trying to throw a lot of shade based on very little. I say prplhz is mafia Forumite turns to me and tells ME "Toad, stop voting the guy, he's totally town" without explaining or trying to make me change my mind. He see's me trying to get a, supposedly, townie lynched and doesn't bother to do anything about it besides mentioning it. How is the lack of agenda in that one not a problem for you? Yo, ego-centric much? Don't have to bold and capitalize me. So what do you think? He's mafia deflecting off of mafia or mafia deflecting off of town? But even then, I don't see anything in the way of scumhunting. So ##Vote: RitokyAlso, I still have like 3 page to read, but wanted to get this out there. Your read on me is literally the worst ever lol. Your 1st point is dumb, go read Order, my 1st post is an America joke referencing the previous thread where I trolled with the power of freedom. Your 2nd point is dumb because I was scum hunting. I thought that what forum said was pretty stupid. Not necessarily scummy, but stupid. I felt that he was unfairly castigated for it, and very quickly by 2 people: toades and yamato. I kinda liked toades after I asked him questions so I backed off, but I didn't like yamato for sheeping toades and then vanishing. So I asked toades his read on yamato, and moved on. Since then I have been experiencing the wonders of valium and getting your wisdom teeth removed, and while I read the thread; I doubt the last 2 pages left any lasting impressions on me. All I remember is banks saying "hey hey hey, gonna read" then I saw him on video mafia, then he never posted. Also, a lot of people say they don't like VE, but I don't really get that; I like him quite a bit, but that may be the valium speaking. Maybe you should take advice from forum bunnies and flip your reads on certain people, i.e. me. p.s. I actually made a pie last night. Jelly? How would you know if they made lasting impressions if you haven't even read the last 20 pages? I don't need to flip any of my reads, because I think I have pretty good reads this game. I totally agree banks (poofter for those of you who don't know) should step up his game. Also, I made homemade cheesecake, get rekt. I said I did read them, but I read them under the influence of valium and oral surgery. Hence why I have sincere concerns about their level of weight in my mind. You also thought you had good reads last game and basically town read the entire mafia Also I dislike your agreeing with that one dude's reads post. For 2 reasons: 1) you like it, yet you disagree with 2 of his bolded reads. not just the normal one's, the bolded ones. 2) you didn't ask any questions about it. the super town bunnies i remember woulda been like NUH UH you don't just post a list without raisins (reasons) in MAH TOWN! But then again pretty sure you posted a list without raisins earlier. Meh, I made strawberry rhubarb pie, depending on the flavor of the cheesecake I may have gotten rekt.
I can be wrong ya know!!!!
I like raisins. And reasons.
And I said I could totally expand on my reasons for my reads.
The reason why I didn't question kush is because his list is based up on things til page 27, not up to the pages we are now. His reasons might change from there on. Though I admit, I am curious on his reads from that point on why he bolded those 3 people.
Also, I made original cheesecake and a strawberry cheesecake. So yummm.
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guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up
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So, I don't want to kill all people pushing against me, but I really don't wanna fuck up my streak of not getting lynched (mislynched in this case) and people who aren't certain of my alignment (town) need to go immediately.
As long as I get nk'd or live until end of game, there's a pretty damn good chance that town will win
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On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up
No. iamp is my bro. And I think he's town.
He basically gave himself an excuse to lurk before the game started, and he's been the 2nd most active person in the game. This is a huge town tell. Plus, he seems to push the idea forward that I am town (which is correct), so I'd like to keep him around until someone proves that I'm wrong about him.
THANKS!
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On July 09 2014 03:59 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up No. iamp is my bro. And I think he's town. He basically gave himself an excuse to lurk before the game started, and he's been the 2nd most active person in the game. This is a huge town tell. Plus, he seems to push the idea forward that I am town (which is correct), so I'd like to keep him around until someone proves that I'm wrong about him. THANKS!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082
That's pretty fucking convincing if you actually go take a look through his other games. Arguable he only had catastrophe as mafia recently so the sample size is quite scarce if you don't want to go back to 2012 when he just posted different all in all.
But the difference in willingness to put something forth is there. He isn't the 2nd most active person in the game and he's only been posting 1liners or 2liners. No "here's what I think and why people need to die" no nothing.
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linked my posts because Koshi's post is in there too, you need to read that as well. My post focuses on highlighting the difference to his town play rather than just saying what's so weird about him. Read both posts, read the post from foolishness that Koshi linked as well and try to look up his recent games.
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On July 09 2014 04:02 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:59 IAmRobik wrote:On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up No. iamp is my bro. And I think he's town. He basically gave himself an excuse to lurk before the game started, and he's been the 2nd most active person in the game. This is a huge town tell. Plus, he seems to push the idea forward that I am town (which is correct), so I'd like to keep him around until someone proves that I'm wrong about him. THANKS! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082That's pretty fucking convincing if you actually go take a look through his other games. Arguable he only had catastrophe as mafia recently so the sample size is quite scarce if you don't want to go back to 2012 when he just posted different all in all. But the difference in willingness to put something forth is there. He isn't the 2nd most active person in the game and he's only been posting 1liners or 2liners. No "here's what I think and why people need to die" no nothing.
But that would mean that I was wrong from the beginning of the game and that would make me sadface.
It would also mean that we keep around someone who is pushing against me instead of someone who is defending me.
I know that makes me really really super greedy, but that's how I play the game. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but the longer I'm alive, the better the chance for town to win.
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On July 09 2014 03:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:47 ritoky wrote:On July 09 2014 03:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 09 2014 03:25 ritoky wrote:On July 09 2014 01:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:I'd actually lynch Obiwan and Ritoky. I have a better case on Ritoky. He comes into the thread with this: On July 08 2014 04:51 ritoky wrote:
howdy everybody,
i am cop
i have a red check on bunnies and three dead green checks Which to me seems super forced, and a lame joke from previous games. (Those who played in those games understand) Then he has a back and forth with me, and basically just peaces out. Nothing productive at all, except maybe this post with toad/yamato On July 08 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:14 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 05:08 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:03 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 04:57 ritoky wrote:
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? where did you get the no reason at all part? didn't he post earlier that in all games where he got a slight scum read early on prp that prp ended up flipping town. as a result he has decided to flip his read? so when he get slight scum -> town, when gets town -> slight scum? i think he even posted about how he got the slight scum feels too when someone questioned it.
you read the thread bro? There's two ways to inrepret that sentence: 1) "why did you post it - for no reason" 2) "how did you get to that conclusion - for no reason" The 2nd one would be a lie but considering that I aksed about the first one and forumite answered that very question I'm pretty sure that's what Yamato tried to say. Those are two completly different things. 1) so you're saying that his lack of an agenda behind his post makes him mafia on d1? Yeah I am not really buying that. If you want to call people out for posting without an agenda or posting useless stuff, your list gonna be pretty long. I don't see how him not having an agenda by calling someone town and then giving a reason why (albeit a bad reason) when asked makes him mafia. 2) you sure are really trying to throw a lot of shade based on very little. I say prplhz is mafia Forumite turns to me and tells ME "Toad, stop voting the guy, he's totally town" without explaining or trying to make me change my mind. He see's me trying to get a, supposedly, townie lynched and doesn't bother to do anything about it besides mentioning it. How is the lack of agenda in that one not a problem for you? Yo, ego-centric much? Don't have to bold and capitalize me. So what do you think? He's mafia deflecting off of mafia or mafia deflecting off of town? But even then, I don't see anything in the way of scumhunting. So ##Vote: RitokyAlso, I still have like 3 page to read, but wanted to get this out there. Your read on me is literally the worst ever lol. Your 1st point is dumb, go read Order, my 1st post is an America joke referencing the previous thread where I trolled with the power of freedom. Your 2nd point is dumb because I was scum hunting. I thought that what forum said was pretty stupid. Not necessarily scummy, but stupid. I felt that he was unfairly castigated for it, and very quickly by 2 people: toades and yamato. I kinda liked toades after I asked him questions so I backed off, but I didn't like yamato for sheeping toades and then vanishing. So I asked toades his read on yamato, and moved on. Since then I have been experiencing the wonders of valium and getting your wisdom teeth removed, and while I read the thread; I doubt the last 2 pages left any lasting impressions on me. All I remember is banks saying "hey hey hey, gonna read" then I saw him on video mafia, then he never posted. Also, a lot of people say they don't like VE, but I don't really get that; I like him quite a bit, but that may be the valium speaking. Maybe you should take advice from forum bunnies and flip your reads on certain people, i.e. me. p.s. I actually made a pie last night. Jelly? How would you know if they made lasting impressions if you haven't even read the last 20 pages? I don't need to flip any of my reads, because I think I have pretty good reads this game. I totally agree banks (poofter for those of you who don't know) should step up his game. Also, I made homemade cheesecake, get rekt. I said I did read them, but I read them under the influence of valium and oral surgery. Hence why I have sincere concerns about their level of weight in my mind. You also thought you had good reads last game and basically town read the entire mafia Also I dislike your agreeing with that one dude's reads post. For 2 reasons: 1) you like it, yet you disagree with 2 of his bolded reads. not just the normal one's, the bolded ones. 2) you didn't ask any questions about it. the super town bunnies i remember woulda been like NUH UH you don't just post a list without raisins (reasons) in MAH TOWN! But then again pretty sure you posted a list without raisins earlier. Meh, I made strawberry rhubarb pie, depending on the flavor of the cheesecake I may have gotten rekt. I can be wrong ya know!!!! I like raisins. And reasons. And I said I could totally expand on my reasons for my reads. The reason why I didn't question kush is because his list is based up on things til page 27, not up to the pages we are now. His reasons might change from there on. Though I admit, I am curious on his reads from that point on why he bolded those 3 people. Also, I made original cheesecake and a strawberry cheesecake. So yummm.
This confuses me. I want to call it not a townie mindset, but I lynched someone in the newbie game (sqrtofneg1?) for this same sentiment and he was town; so I hesitate. Why do you have to be provoked to substantiate reads? As town you should want the most information possible available to you, whether that is from you providing it or asking others for it. Idk, that bothers me and makes me think you have something to hide.
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On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up
*choke* x_x
On July 09 2014 03:40 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:28 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 03:22 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers. You told us you will be killing lurkers today. Out of a sudden, BAM a robik vote. Of course I'll have to ask what are you trying to do. Toades pointed out that a lurker lynch doesn´t give info because scum can just go with the flow and lynch some poor lurker without guilt. It´s better to leave them for vigilantes. 1) your insistence on lynching town bothers me 2) weren't you hard against coza or am I imagining things? If so, why would you want to lynch the person who you suspect is voting as well 3) i'm town, so see point 1
You are imagining things. Also I try my best to lynch scum. Why are you trying to show townieness by saying "I´m town" instead of doing pro-town things, like NOT flaming anyone who looks at you sideways?
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After reading some of the discussion about forumite I don´t think he is scum. His reason for townreading prplhz is too incomprehensible to come from mafia. As mafia I would always try to find a reason others might agree with over something like this strange meta reason.
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On July 09 2014 04:14 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up *choke* x_x Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:40 IAmRobik wrote:On July 09 2014 03:28 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 03:22 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers. You told us you will be killing lurkers today. Out of a sudden, BAM a robik vote. Of course I'll have to ask what are you trying to do. Toades pointed out that a lurker lynch doesn´t give info because scum can just go with the flow and lynch some poor lurker without guilt. It´s better to leave them for vigilantes. 1) your insistence on lynching town bothers me 2) weren't you hard against coza or am I imagining things? If so, why would you want to lynch the person who you suspect is voting as well 3) i'm town, so see point 1 You are imagining things. Also I try my best to lynch scum. Why are you trying to show townieness by saying "I´m town" instead of doing pro-town things, like NOT flaming anyone who looks at you sideways?
Why don't you try doing pro-town things, like NOT voting for townies.
Are you in Coza's boat that I haven't given my reads, nor have I justified them? Like, for every post that I cry about how town I am and how I would be a mislynch and I don't wanna get mislynched cause I'm town and blah blah blah, there's at least another post of me asking questions, trying to solve the game, giving my reads, etc. In fact, I gave a pretty in depth list of my thoughts on the game a few pages back when Koshi asked me. Coza CONTINUES to ignore that I'm doing shit this game and CONTINUES to push the notion that I haven't done or said shit. These blatant lies will not go unpunished.
COZA,
I demand you justify your claims against me, or at least ask me questions on which reads of mine you a) disagree with b) feel like I haven't expounded on
Forumite,
What are your thoughts on Coza?
Why are you claiming that I haven't done shit this game besides 'trying to show townieness by saying 'I'm town'"
What do I have to do, in your eyes, to be doing "pro-town" things that you claim I haven't been doing thus far?
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On July 09 2014 04:14 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up *choke* x_x Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:40 IAmRobik wrote:On July 09 2014 03:28 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 03:22 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers. You told us you will be killing lurkers today. Out of a sudden, BAM a robik vote. Of course I'll have to ask what are you trying to do. Toades pointed out that a lurker lynch doesn´t give info because scum can just go with the flow and lynch some poor lurker without guilt. It´s better to leave them for vigilantes. 1) your insistence on lynching town bothers me 2) weren't you hard against coza or am I imagining things? If so, why would you want to lynch the person who you suspect is voting as well 3) i'm town, so see point 1 You are imagining things. Also I try my best to lynch scum. Why are you trying to show townieness by saying "I´m town" instead of doing pro-town things, like NOT flaming anyone who looks at you sideways?
robik is just a blustery guy. he spent like 10 pages telling me i was the worst player ever last game. it's just part of his general persona and tone; try not to take it personal, it's not about you mate.
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On July 09 2014 04:19 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 04:14 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up *choke* x_x On July 09 2014 03:40 IAmRobik wrote:On July 09 2014 03:28 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 03:22 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers. You told us you will be killing lurkers today. Out of a sudden, BAM a robik vote. Of course I'll have to ask what are you trying to do. Toades pointed out that a lurker lynch doesn´t give info because scum can just go with the flow and lynch some poor lurker without guilt. It´s better to leave them for vigilantes. 1) your insistence on lynching town bothers me 2) weren't you hard against coza or am I imagining things? If so, why would you want to lynch the person who you suspect is voting as well 3) i'm town, so see point 1 You are imagining things. Also I try my best to lynch scum. Why are you trying to show townieness by saying "I´m town" instead of doing pro-town things, like NOT flaming anyone who looks at you sideways? robik is just a blustery guy. he spent like 10 pages telling me i was the worst player ever last game. it's just part of his general persona and tone; try not to take it personal, it's not about you mate.
Wait, wtf? What does one have to do with the other?
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On July 08 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 02:00 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Toad,
Your whole post is trying to say "forumite is too ballsy and for that I'm townreading him" but you're avoiding doing the latter at all costs. Why not just say something if you wanna say it. Why are you holding back nah, the whole point of the post is to explain that I've got two conflicting points about him. 1) the mini-case on him which certainly makes him look like he's not town 2) his reaction to all this, which does makes him look like town in my book I think both points are really good, at the least we've had a bunch of people stating that 1) is good so far, but most people ignore to give the 2nd one some thought, which makes it important enough to be pointed out. It's a post to get more opinions from people though. I'm not trying to get someone lynched with it. I want to hear what people make of it. The problem is that: seems like an illogical conclusion. The logical answer would be something along the lines of: "But his response is so damn ballsy that I kinda think he's town for it" then you can mentioned that you're conflicted and want him to post more
I think Toades´ line of thought was perfectly reasonable here. That he brings up these conflicting points and wants more thoughts on it seems pretty townie to me.
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On July 09 2014 04:08 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 09 2014 03:47 ritoky wrote:On July 09 2014 03:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 09 2014 03:25 ritoky wrote:On July 09 2014 01:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:I'd actually lynch Obiwan and Ritoky. I have a better case on Ritoky. He comes into the thread with this: On July 08 2014 04:51 ritoky wrote:
howdy everybody,
i am cop
i have a red check on bunnies and three dead green checks Which to me seems super forced, and a lame joke from previous games. (Those who played in those games understand) Then he has a back and forth with me, and basically just peaces out. Nothing productive at all, except maybe this post with toad/yamato On July 08 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:14 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 05:08 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:03 Toadesstern wrote:
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There's two ways to inrepret that sentence:
1) "why did you post it - for no reason"
2) "how did you get to that conclusion - for no reason"
The 2nd one would be a lie but considering that I aksed about the first one and forumite answered that very question I'm pretty sure that's what Yamato tried to say. Those are two completly different things. 1) so you're saying that his lack of an agenda behind his post makes him mafia on d1? Yeah I am not really buying that. If you want to call people out for posting without an agenda or posting useless stuff, your list gonna be pretty long. I don't see how him not having an agenda by calling someone town and then giving a reason why (albeit a bad reason) when asked makes him mafia. 2) you sure are really trying to throw a lot of shade based on very little. I say prplhz is mafia Forumite turns to me and tells ME "Toad, stop voting the guy, he's totally town" without explaining or trying to make me change my mind. He see's me trying to get a, supposedly, townie lynched and doesn't bother to do anything about it besides mentioning it. How is the lack of agenda in that one not a problem for you? Yo, ego-centric much? Don't have to bold and capitalize me. So what do you think? He's mafia deflecting off of mafia or mafia deflecting off of town? But even then, I don't see anything in the way of scumhunting. So ##Vote: RitokyAlso, I still have like 3 page to read, but wanted to get this out there. Your read on me is literally the worst ever lol. Your 1st point is dumb, go read Order, my 1st post is an America joke referencing the previous thread where I trolled with the power of freedom. Your 2nd point is dumb because I was scum hunting. I thought that what forum said was pretty stupid. Not necessarily scummy, but stupid. I felt that he was unfairly castigated for it, and very quickly by 2 people: toades and yamato. I kinda liked toades after I asked him questions so I backed off, but I didn't like yamato for sheeping toades and then vanishing. So I asked toades his read on yamato, and moved on. Since then I have been experiencing the wonders of valium and getting your wisdom teeth removed, and while I read the thread; I doubt the last 2 pages left any lasting impressions on me. All I remember is banks saying "hey hey hey, gonna read" then I saw him on video mafia, then he never posted. Also, a lot of people say they don't like VE, but I don't really get that; I like him quite a bit, but that may be the valium speaking. Maybe you should take advice from forum bunnies and flip your reads on certain people, i.e. me. p.s. I actually made a pie last night. Jelly? How would you know if they made lasting impressions if you haven't even read the last 20 pages? I don't need to flip any of my reads, because I think I have pretty good reads this game. I totally agree banks (poofter for those of you who don't know) should step up his game. Also, I made homemade cheesecake, get rekt. I said I did read them, but I read them under the influence of valium and oral surgery. Hence why I have sincere concerns about their level of weight in my mind. You also thought you had good reads last game and basically town read the entire mafia Also I dislike your agreeing with that one dude's reads post. For 2 reasons: 1) you like it, yet you disagree with 2 of his bolded reads. not just the normal one's, the bolded ones. 2) you didn't ask any questions about it. the super town bunnies i remember woulda been like NUH UH you don't just post a list without raisins (reasons) in MAH TOWN! But then again pretty sure you posted a list without raisins earlier. Meh, I made strawberry rhubarb pie, depending on the flavor of the cheesecake I may have gotten rekt. I can be wrong ya know!!!! I like raisins. And reasons. And I said I could totally expand on my reasons for my reads. The reason why I didn't question kush is because his list is based up on things til page 27, not up to the pages we are now. His reasons might change from there on. Though I admit, I am curious on his reads from that point on why he bolded those 3 people. Also, I made original cheesecake and a strawberry cheesecake. So yummm. This confuses me. I want to call it not a townie mindset, but I lynched someone in the newbie game (sqrtofneg1?) for this same sentiment and he was town; so I hesitate. Why do you have to be provoked to substantiate reads? As town you should want the most information possible available to you, whether that is from you providing it or asking others for it. Idk, that bothers me and makes me think you have something to hide.
Because it is fun to see other people's reaction to my list of reads. If i gave super detailed things of every single one and make it into a huge ass post, not many people would want to read it. So if a certain read interests you that much, ask for what I think or how I came to the conclusion that that person should be there. If you aren't interested, then why would I waste my time with something no one is going to read?
I tend to get ignored in games, so if my reads matter that much, someone will eventually pay attention to me.
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