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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 08 2014 21:21 GMT
#1121
On July 09 2014 06:11 Forumite wrote:
Reread the thread focusing on IAmRobik and Corazon. Robik is town, I don´t like his aggressive quirks but apart from an unexplained sheeping of Iamp it looks good. Corazon is probably like me, dislikes Robiks playstyle and tunnels. The scummiest thing he´s done is defending me, not sure what to think of that.

##Unvote

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 02:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Kush, why are you playing so differently from how you play your town game?

What did you mean with this post?

What part is unclear. Kush just played a game where he was town and he took control and was posting a lot and was leading town.
The mafia he played right before that he was shut down and reserved and demoralized.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:23 GMT
#1122
I think Google is pulling for Germany
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:23 GMT
#1123
Anyway I am no longer sure what to do so can see that vote thread
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 08 2014 21:25 GMT
#1124
I <3 Koshi.

But seriously the case on iamp is quite solid. If you actually look at his filter it can be summarized as "Why aren't you doing anything?" when his filter itself is lacking in meaningful contribution and pushing the thread forward. He has posted many posts but it's still not entirely clear what he thinks. He claims to be a leader in this game but nothing of his posts felt like he was trying to lead people to a lynch.

Forumite looks better because at least he looks open with his thoughts and there's some progression.

##Unvote: Forumite
##Vote: iamperfection


(side note: if the gang of like bunnies and ritoky and friends could please start referring to people strictly by their handles in this game, and stop talking about cake or what have you that would be great)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:26 GMT
#1125
So

SHould I vote IAMP?

See the thing is if he is scum so is robik

!!

Even get info from a scumlynch!

But if it is mislynch it doesn't mean robik is town; so must convince me to vote IAMP for me to do this
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:27 GMT
#1126
Sazan Itza
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:28 GMT
#1127
like with the good cases @ stuph
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:28 GMT
#1128
hey?

Like we going to see case

eventually

I hope?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 21:29 GMT
#1129
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 21:30 GMT
#1130
On July 09 2014 06:21 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:11 Forumite wrote:
Reread the thread focusing on IAmRobik and Corazon. Robik is town, I don´t like his aggressive quirks but apart from an unexplained sheeping of Iamp it looks good. Corazon is probably like me, dislikes Robiks playstyle and tunnels. The scummiest thing he´s done is defending me, not sure what to think of that.

##Unvote

On July 09 2014 02:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Kush, why are you playing so differently from how you play your town game?

What did you mean with this post?

What part is unclear. Kush just played a game where he was town and he took control and was posting a lot and was leading town.
The mafia he played right before that he was shut down and reserved and demoralized.

Ah, thought you said Koshi, confused. Kush looks bad even before this
:3
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:34 GMT
#1131
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

sson I be as thupit as I wanna be
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 21:34 GMT
#1132
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?
:3
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:35 GMT
#1133
THERE!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 08 2014 21:35 GMT
#1134
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

we could lynch you and mberg and show you what rape feels like
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:35 GMT
#1135
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

nope u aint gonna convince ppl to say so just vote him hey?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:36 GMT
#1136
On July 09 2014 06:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

we could lynch you and mberg and show you what rape feels like

eh?

What u pissitude with toad 4?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 08 2014 21:37 GMT
#1137
Thoughts please:

On July 09 2014 03:19 Koshi wrote:
So there are 8 people on Forumite. Interesting.

Let's all talk about iamperfection for a while.
This is the awesome case foolishness made against iamp in catastrophe mafia. (go to iamperfection no so perfect section).

I already brought this up before but iamp is playing the same style he was playing in the Catastrophe game. This time he isn't utterly useless but he is pretty close. Maybe I can post 2-3 posts iamp made that are somewhat pushing the thread forward but that's really it. Robik townreads iamp for being firm early game, calling out my bullshit post, which was obviously just a conversation starter. Quite obviously so. Vivax townreads iamp because iamp is a bossy guy calling people doing dumb things out on their dumb things.
I agree iamp has called out some people out doing silly things. But really? Is that why we are giving the most experienced player in this thread a townread for? Are we really so easily pleased? Come on lads. Look at this:
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"iamperfection is one of the best examples of that this game," reports Foolishness. "His attempt to get people onto Balla24/Blazinghand is the most convenient case in the world. If you're mafia in a game, wouldn't you just love it if some idiot is proposing random lynch? You get to call him an idiot AND look town for doing so!"

↑ So yeah, iamp calls out dumb behavior. Good for him! But what does he do with it? What reasoning does he give when saying Kush should stop his stupid crusade? What reasoning did he give for making Robik unlynchable till D6? I am not impressed. You shouldn't be either.

Going on: ↓
Show nested quote +
Despite all that, iamperfection has yet to post a real read on a player or situation. The filter demonstrates that he doesn't have any true scumreads other than the easy picking Blazinghand and only has a few haphazard town reads. Secondly, iamperfection is making demands of the town without doing so himself.

Is iamp posting reads this game? Do you see the overflowing quality this veteran player brings us? I don't. The guy makes the excuse to do nothing till ObiwanShinobi enters the thread, when ObiwanShinobi enters the thread iamp doesn't do anything but asks that ObiwanShinobi pleases him. He doesn't ask any specific questions. Why is Obiwan so special for iamp? Why can't iamp do nothing for multiple hours while waiting on Obiwan?

Read the entire Foolishness case. Then see how much of it applies to this game. It is scary much. Do you also remember that I asked 27ninjabunnies what the 3 biggest discussion points where this game? Now look at how much iamperfection participated in these 3 topics. Close to fucking nothing.

##unvote
##vote iamperfection



This lynch is glorious.

On July 09 2014 03:46 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 03:19 Koshi wrote:
So there are 8 people on Forumite. Interesting.

Let's all talk about iamperfection for a while.
This is the awesome case foolishness made against iamp in catastrophe mafia. (go to iamperfection no so perfect section).

I already brought this up before but iamp is playing the same style he was playing in the Catastrophe game. This time he isn't utterly useless but he is pretty close. Maybe I can post 2-3 posts iamp made that are somewhat pushing the thread forward but that's really it. Robik townreads iamp for being firm early game, calling out my bullshit post, which was obviously just a conversation starter. Quite obviously so. Vivax townreads iamp because iamp is a bossy guy calling people doing dumb things out on their dumb things.
I agree iamp has called out some people out doing silly things. But really? Is that why we are giving the most experienced player in this thread a townread for? Are we really so easily pleased? Come on lads. Look at this:
"iamperfection is one of the best examples of that this game," reports Foolishness. "His attempt to get people onto Balla24/Blazinghand is the most convenient case in the world. If you're mafia in a game, wouldn't you just love it if some idiot is proposing random lynch? You get to call him an idiot AND look town for doing so!"

↑ So yeah, iamp calls out dumb behavior. Good for him! But what does he do with it? What reasoning does he give when saying Kush should stop his stupid crusade? What reasoning did he give for making Robik unlynchable till D6? I am not impressed. You shouldn't be either.

Going on: ↓
Despite all that, iamperfection has yet to post a real read on a player or situation. The filter demonstrates that he doesn't have any true scumreads other than the easy picking Blazinghand and only has a few haphazard town reads. Secondly, iamperfection is making demands of the town without doing so himself.

Is iamp posting reads this game? Do you see the overflowing quality this veteran player brings us? I don't. The guy makes the excuse to do nothing till ObiwanShinobi enters the thread, when ObiwanShinobi enters the thread iamp doesn't do anything but asks that ObiwanShinobi pleases him. He doesn't ask any specific questions. Why is Obiwan so special for iamp? Why can't iamp do nothing for multiple hours while waiting on Obiwan?

Read the entire Foolishness case. Then see how much of it applies to this game. It is scary much. Do you also remember that I asked 27ninjabunnies what the 3 biggest discussion points where this game? Now look at how much iamperfection participated in these 3 topics. Close to fucking nothing.

##unvote
##vote iamperfection



This lynch is glorious.

I actually like this a lot. I wasn't so sure about this because in my head he's always posting like that so I went to look up some other games he had as town recently because I haven't played in a year and I could always just be wrong.

As town he looks almost the same BUT he does produce good posts inbetween, posts that actually do something and posts that actually aren't just random 1 or 2 lines. He still does those 1 to 2 liners all the time but he's certainly got more good posts as town. Examples:
TL Noir:
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On September 25 2013 09:11 iamperfection wrote:
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On September 25 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote:
On September 25 2013 09:08 iamperfection wrote:
is cephiro in the game or did he get replaced?

He's here. As is the Mattchew case.

Gigogogo!

as in you want a peek on my notes i guess i can oblige

27: Mattchew-scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum

On September 25 2013 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
1: DarthPunk/sb-
town because dp being a little bitch about people calling him scum and then replacing out because of it means he is extremely likely to be town. Plus he was pretty active and in the spotlight day one anyways.

2: raynpelikoneet-
town his most recent push on firm while misguides seemed legit at least and looked like he was at least trying to figure out alignments and overall good activity and seems to have been one of the major players. He is good as scum but i think he has been legit and real in his posts.

5: yamato77-
town he just is plus he got protected and he wouldnt lie about that. Also was active before that

6: kushm4sta-
dont know. Rember the days when he used to be meiocore at this game. Now it seems like he spends his time just bithcing and moaning.

8: ObviousOne-
annoying but seems to have a matter fact way of not wanting to explain himself. bad but likely town.

10: FirmTofu-
Town This kid is town he has explained himself over and over agains hasnt really been afraid of the spotlight. Also has used his time to contribute in the right way with pushing see umasi instead of just defending himself this is what you do as town when you have pressure on you. you give your reads and your thoughts regardless of the pressure you dont complain. He is town

11: Pandain-
his sent push seems legit and seems to have some of the same reasoning i have. If he is thinking like means he is probally town. needs more actvity.

12: Cephiro-
seems to be always catching up for some reason and his last catching up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=133#2647 he promised to be a good townie going forward he didnt do shit. honestly i dont really know but fuck it ill say scum because fuck him.

13: Mr. Cheesecake-
im excused from reading him because i hate him. he will probally at some point afk from this game and be active somewhere else on tl.

14: decondu-
confused about why yamato was town would likely know his scum team shot yamato so slight indication he might be town i dont feel strong about need to see more from him.

15: Coagulation-
town no reason to not belive he is the vig with his and yamtos claims

16: Stutters695-
martyer hate that shit but who knows probally bad town though

17: iamperfection-
IC

18: Zenatsu/molango-
a double lurker. A sure sign of the apoclypse.

19: [UoN]Sentinel-
scum this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=85#1699 say absoloutly nothing on a major topic while sudetly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. He has given some decent reasoning for some his thoughts later on so he isnt my strongest scum read but that day 1 still reads as scum.

20: VisceraEyes-
I dont really understand his existential crisis that he all of sudden for no real good reason but i dont see the scum motivation. Like he didnt use it as an excuse to not talk about the game as he is still talking so i would say town on him. has been generally active and talking about the game. His thinking that it may be possible both coag and yamato could be scum is kind of ridiclous as in to ridiclous to come from scum.

22: geript-
scum his biggest contribution for the entire game was to tunnel dp and make him rage quit. outside of that the rest of his day one was useless and hasnt done anything this cycle scum

23: Risen-
i dont fucking know hasnt really done anything could be scum in fact i would say leaning scum

24: LoneMeow-
dont know: calling stuff wierd but not scummy here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#690 scum do that because they dont have the balls to actually call someone scum. fucking martyer. suspicious of umasi though gives me pause might be super bad town. plus these days people who martyer have kind of been flipping town unfortunatly.

25: marvellosity-
Town seems active and intrested i will say town and improve my record of reading him almost always correctly. seems to have setled into the role of town leader.

26: Zaragon-
scum played the im a newbie card kind of wierd that he would go after ve as scum but in effect his vote was wasted and did nothing of vlaue. Says stuff like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=87#1721 says sent isnt great case but leaning scum????????? dont know what that means. and wants to say im not sure it seems a lot and never really reaches solid conlusions that much.

27: Mattchew-
scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum

Umasi-scumi will give credit to firmtofu here i think he made solid point here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=151#3011 hes scum for that i would say

29: justanothertownie- was going to stay up to see my post +1 for eagerly awaiting iamperfection posts. outside of that he hasnt done a ton and hasnt had strong reads but seems to be self aware of that fact in a matter of fact way. My gut would say town.

30: Mocsta-towni like his case been active extremely likely town i would say efort etc....

On September 25 2013 22:53 iamperfection wrote:
mattchews defense looks real i would say town on him plus it wasnt just defense he gave some reads and seems like he is trying to put 2 and 2 together.

Cephiro lynch would be ok maybe like 55 60 percent. Shity way for him to play as scum but i could definitely see a scum using his constant ill totes contribute later and just never do it.

panda bear guy im not so hot on for his lynch. Basically it isnt super clear who he wants to lynch the most right now even though he said he aims to do that today. like with mattchews defense i don't really know who i want to lynch either so i don't think that's a smoking gun. best course of action would be just to see what he does today.





GoT:
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On August 08 2013 23:10 iamperfection wrote:
like i dont know where your going with this acro like i said to you in pm about
xatlos
------------------------------------
i will tell you this

1. he put himself out for lord first of any of us

2. Has been very active in pms

3. aggressive towards grack

I would say those would points would indicate him more likely to be town
On August 09 2013 10:32 iamperfection wrote:
This message is for everyone. We are simply not lynching ryan or acro under any circumstances this cycle and i want your help to find the true scum in this game. Regardless of what you think of the two their activity alone makes them not the best chance to lynch scum. We all know that scum tend b e less active than town and like to lurk in the shadows. This biting each others heads off serves no purpose but to create an atmospher not productive to town because it allows to lurkers to continue to lurk and the scum along with them.

I want to know have nonposters in your house been active in pms. Gumshoe has contacted me stating that he will be on later and as of yet still hasnt posted. I havent heard from grack to last night. I want to know if any non posters are in contact with you and if you have suspicion of them from their n0 commitment and recent pms. regardless if they are pm'ing you i want to know why they arent posting in the thread. IE ( Sharrant is in contact with you but isnt posting in the thread acro)

these are the pieces of shit that come to mind

FirmTofu- Decided to complain about activity and did nothing else

Gumshoe- Had a good feeling from pms that he was town but is mia

Grack- Mia since last night

Kush- Non contributer who i want kp directed at because he can contribute as town and isnt

nacho- non poster and i havent heard anything about his pms

Sharrant- as stated before
On August 09 2013 22:34 iamperfection wrote:
totes town

Dandelion[green]- Been active with his thoughts interested in the game had a same thought as me when calling out a weak post as s&b. I will eat my hat if he is scum

Xatols- Active making logical conclusions in both pms and in thread

Oatsmaster- Shit up the thread with yamato putting the spotlight on both of them. Has put his thought in actively since then as well.

weaker town reads.

[green]Risen Lol worst analysis that i have ever seen in a game for such a long post but seems like quite the commitment for scum to make.

ClarityNl Was under a ton of pressure for the leak the name stuff. For someone who was under so much pressure he was able to explain himself fairly well and didnt run away. I think if he were scum he would have had much more difficulty.
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scum city



Vivax Vivax is a player that can contribute a lot as town and can even catch scum. He has done next to nothing in this game and seems like a guy just going with the flow and not sharing his thought process or actively trying to hunt like he usally does. Vivax should be one of the leaders of this town and he is not doing it for whatever reason.

this post is wierd http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&currentpage=47#939
Why is he not actively giving his thoughts and he actually never gives thoughts just asks a useless question.

and my f5 snipe just caught this
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On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:
On August 09 2013 05:28 Acrofales wrote:
Hrmmm, playing a game of elimination, Vivax is the remaining member of House Stark.

On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.

Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.


Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.

On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:
Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:

On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.


koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno.
Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.

1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit".
2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20.
3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread.
4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.

Here is my first real scumread.


This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3).
4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative.

Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion.

I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two.


This seems like a really strange soft-defense of Oatsmaster. Either he was completely oblivious to the goings on in his own house, or he had a town read based on that. I am confused about why he stood up to defend Oatsmaster's honor: he's not calling Koshi scum based on it, in fact there are no conclusions at all. With the knowledge that he had already talked to Oats in private this just looks like a baseless soft-defense of a house member who it seems he should have been suspicious of.

Anybody from House Stark (or Vivax himself) want to elaborate on Vivax's role in the internal politicking? Vivax, why did you make this soft-defense post of Oats?


I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case?
I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment.

I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement?


@ Oberyn

On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?


I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy.

Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment.

That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon.

Where are vivaxs thoughts all he says is he is intrested to hear what other people are doing. Vivax is usally the one pushing for what he wants. I think vivax has a high probability of flipping scum.

Kush He can spontaneously combust for all i care

Gumshoe Weak but he bothered to contact me and hasn't posted why the fuck would he do that

Sharrant Same as gum but with acro instead of me


Even just from a pure "how much text he's willing to post I can't find anything like that in catastrophe nor in this one

On July 09 2014 06:25 slOosh wrote:
I <3 Koshi.

But seriously the case on iamp is quite solid. If you actually look at his filter it can be summarized as "Why aren't you doing anything?" when his filter itself is lacking in meaningful contribution and pushing the thread forward. He has posted many posts but it's still not entirely clear what he thinks. He claims to be a leader in this game but nothing of his posts felt like he was trying to lead people to a lynch.

Forumite looks better because at least he looks open with his thoughts and there's some progression.

##Unvote: Forumite
##Vote: iamperfection


(side note: if the gang of like bunnies and ritoky and friends could please start referring to people strictly by their handles in this game, and stop talking about cake or what have you that would be great)

Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 21:38 GMT
#1138
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 08 2014 21:51 GMT
#1139
Guys, you have to start putting down your votes.

12 people are still not voting.

I am not saying consolidate.

I am saying: vote YOUR BIGGEST scumread

Stop hiding. You are allowing to let scum hide with you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 21:53 GMT
#1140
On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that.

Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus.

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