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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 19:46 GMT
#1101
On July 09 2014 04:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Forumite,
What are your thoughts on Coza?
Why are you claiming that I haven't done shit this game besides 'trying to show townieness by saying 'I'm town'"
What do I have to do, in your eyes, to be doing "pro-town" things that you claim I haven't been doing thus far?

I have a townread on Corazon. I haven´t checked him that closely but that´s what I get from reading the thread. As for acting pro-town, the first thing would be to not blow up when accused of any little thing, it´s not helping your case.

On July 09 2014 04:19 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 04:14 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up

*choke* x_x

On July 09 2014 03:40 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:28 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:22 HaruRH wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers.


You told us you will be killing lurkers today. Out of a sudden, BAM a robik vote. Of course I'll have to ask what are you trying to do.

Toades pointed out that a lurker lynch doesn´t give info because scum can just go with the flow and lynch some poor lurker without guilt. It´s better to leave them for vigilantes.

1) your insistence on lynching town bothers me
2) weren't you hard against coza or am I imagining things? If so, why would you want to lynch the person who you suspect is voting as well
3) i'm town, so see point 1

You are imagining things. Also I try my best to lynch scum. Why are you trying to show townieness by saying "I´m town" instead of doing pro-town things, like NOT flaming anyone who looks at you sideways?


robik is just a blustery guy. he spent like 10 pages telling me i was the worst player ever last game. it's just part of his general persona and tone; try not to take it personal, it's not about you mate.

This I don´t get, it´s anti-town behaviour and makes it extremely easy to hide as scum. Shouldn´t he be an automatic D1 lynch if this is his normal play?
:3
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
July 08 2014 19:49 GMT
#1102
On July 08 2014 02:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).



Is it your goal to get townies modkilled? Did you not read my post where I told people not to call me mafia because if they do I'll pretty much rip them a new one and will end up getting modkilled for it because I have no self control when it relates to getting called mafia when I'm town?

Basically people are not allowed to scumread you because you´d get yourself modkilled? That´s not how this game is supposed to be played. You are not the center point of the world.
Just throwing this out there because I hate your attitude.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 08 2014 19:50 GMT
#1103
On July 09 2014 04:46 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 04:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Forumite,
What are your thoughts on Coza?
Why are you claiming that I haven't done shit this game besides 'trying to show townieness by saying 'I'm town'"
What do I have to do, in your eyes, to be doing "pro-town" things that you claim I haven't been doing thus far?

I have a townread on Corazon. I haven´t checked him that closely but that´s what I get from reading the thread. As for acting pro-town, the first thing would be to not blow up when accused of any little thing, it´s not helping your case.

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 04:19 ritoky wrote:
On July 09 2014 04:14 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
guys you should be voting IamP while I hold the grip around forumite's neck up

*choke* x_x

On July 09 2014 03:40 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:28 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:22 HaruRH wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers.


You told us you will be killing lurkers today. Out of a sudden, BAM a robik vote. Of course I'll have to ask what are you trying to do.

Toades pointed out that a lurker lynch doesn´t give info because scum can just go with the flow and lynch some poor lurker without guilt. It´s better to leave them for vigilantes.

1) your insistence on lynching town bothers me
2) weren't you hard against coza or am I imagining things? If so, why would you want to lynch the person who you suspect is voting as well
3) i'm town, so see point 1

You are imagining things. Also I try my best to lynch scum. Why are you trying to show townieness by saying "I´m town" instead of doing pro-town things, like NOT flaming anyone who looks at you sideways?


robik is just a blustery guy. he spent like 10 pages telling me i was the worst player ever last game. it's just part of his general persona and tone; try not to take it personal, it's not about you mate.

This I don´t get, it´s anti-town behaviour and makes it extremely easy to hide as scum. Shouldn´t he be an automatic D1 lynch if this is his normal play?


I see the trend growing...accusing me of not doing anything in the game and then avoiding answering the question: Why are you claiming that I haven't done shit this game besides 'trying to show townieness by saying 'I'm town'"

Like, if you think I haven't done shit, please let me know what reads I haven't explained or that you disagree with or ask me questions. Saying "you haven't done anything this game" as a blanket statement without justifying it is so fucking lazy.

There are people in this game that ACTUALLY HAVEN'T DONE SHIT. I havent' heard you say that about them.
Why are you singling me out?
Why are my reads posts not good enough for you?
What do you want explained?
Help me help you (if you're town).
Stop saying things about me that are false and unjustified

I was town last game I played and lead the lynch on 2 people who blatantly lied about me and their actions. They happened to be town. That's the only reason I'm not burying the fucking shit out of you right now.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 08 2014 19:51 GMT
#1104
On July 09 2014 04:49 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:49 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).



Is it your goal to get townies modkilled? Did you not read my post where I told people not to call me mafia because if they do I'll pretty much rip them a new one and will end up getting modkilled for it because I have no self control when it relates to getting called mafia when I'm town?

Basically people are not allowed to scumread you because you´d get yourself modkilled? That´s not how this game is supposed to be played. You are not the center point of the world.
Just throwing this out there because I hate your attitude.

No, people aren't allowed to scumread me cause I'm not scum and that means that the people who are town who are scumreading me are wrong and wasting their time trying to help push a mafia agenda.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 19:57 GMT
#1105
On July 09 2014 04:51 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 04:49 mderg wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:49 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).



Is it your goal to get townies modkilled? Did you not read my post where I told people not to call me mafia because if they do I'll pretty much rip them a new one and will end up getting modkilled for it because I have no self control when it relates to getting called mafia when I'm town?

Basically people are not allowed to scumread you because you´d get yourself modkilled? That´s not how this game is supposed to be played. You are not the center point of the world.
Just throwing this out there because I hate your attitude.

No, people aren't allowed to scumread me cause I'm not scum and that means that the people who are town who are scumreading me are wrong and wasting their time trying to help push a mafia agenda.

The people who vote me are wrong too, does that make them scum? This reasoning doesn´t work and there´s no point in going OMGUS because someone doubts you. This is a game about doubting people, accept it.
:3
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 08 2014 20:00 GMT
#1106
Are you seriously going to sit there and ignore my question just like Coza is doing?
These unjustified blanket statements are getting on my damn nerves
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 20:01 GMT
#1107
On July 09 2014 02:34 kushm4sta wrote:
OK my body needs sleep. I got to page 27..ouch. Before the entrance of so many people.
scumreads so far:
prplzhz
iamperfection
batsnacks
ObiWanShinobi
27ninjabunnies
ritocky?

Still haven't seen alakaslam/sloosh/billmurry/mderg/sinani/layabout/alakaslam/tehpoofter/hiropro.

The daily mafia people are hard for me to read because they don't seem to care for analysis. Most of their posts are inside jokes, which I don't appreciate.

I feel strongly that the boldified are scum. Iamp looks like he is bussing obiwan just from this last page I read.

Tomorrow when I get time I will continue reading starting at page 27. I apologize for not being up to date, but really it is all of your faults for talking so much.

[image loading]
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 20:01 GMT
#1108
Fish
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 20:07 GMT
#1109
On July 09 2014 05:00 IAmRobik wrote:
Are you seriously going to sit there and ignore my question just like Coza is doing?
These unjustified blanket statements are getting on my damn nerves

Yes, sorry, I have another plan. I´m going to check Corazon because you obviously think there´s something wrong about his play. Meanwhile, who is your biggest scumread and why haven´t you voted for him yet?
:3
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
July 08 2014 20:09 GMT
#1110
On July 08 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).



holy crap. This is the weakest, most "here's something I got but I'm TOTALLY NOT SURE SO DON'T TAKE IS SERIOUS PLS" post I've ever read

Lynch this guy pretty please
##vote Corazon

His post sounded a bit like my townplay when I was new to mafia. I can see why people see that as scummy but I don´t think it is. Confidence in your reads isn´t alignmment indicative to me.

Off to watch Brazil - Germany
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 08 2014 20:12 GMT
#1111
off for tonight.
I had a good night of sleep.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 08 2014 20:14 GMT
#1112
On July 09 2014 05:07 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 05:00 IAmRobik wrote:
Are you seriously going to sit there and ignore my question just like Coza is doing?
These unjustified blanket statements are getting on my damn nerves

Yes, sorry, I have another plan. I´m going to check Corazon because you obviously think there´s something wrong about his play. Meanwhile, who is your biggest scumread and why haven´t you voted for him yet?

I don't like voting early. I don't know who my BIGGEST scum read is, but I'll go find the post where I give my reads so that you can read over them...cause you clearly decide to skip my posts
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 08 2014 20:14 GMT
#1113
Robik's "non-existent" reads:

On July 08 2014 23:33 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 23:15 Koshi wrote:
Good idea.

Robik can you give me the names of people you think are scum currently?

I'm reading pg 43 right now. Trying to catch up.
I think I have more town than scum. Not sure who I think is scum. I don't remember anymore.
I think I don't like VE. I'm pretty sure I don't like VE. VE is gonna come here and yell and me blah blah blah, but I really don't like VE
I did however agree with VE's read on mderg. I think he was the one who said that he was afraid to interact. He was more than happy to engage with people in previous games and seems less than active in this game. Obviously the two of them wouldn't be scum buddies though.
I don't like Cora because he is scum reading me for having a useless filter. I am pretty sure I justify most if not all of my reads and if he really cared what they were, why wouldn't he ask me for them (if he couldn't find them in my posts).
Bunnies is another one that bothers me. Her post where she says that she's be worried about me if I call her top town was really lazy and disproved the night before in video mafia, so her reverting back to that type of read was really really "easy" and doesn't seem genuine to me.
Poofter is yet another suspect of mine. He expressed an eagerness to play this game and yet his focus is far from it. This is a weak read obviously, but I would keep my eye on him.
Oh right, I forgot about sloosh. That case was weird as a first post. Too down to business and not aloof enough. I guess the same could be said for damdred. Meh.

Turns out I actually have quite a few scum reads.

I like iamp and vivax obviously.
I think I like prplhz
I think I like toad

Those are my reads thus far.

ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 08 2014 20:30 GMT
#1114
heading to work, will be back on later.
Retired.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 21:11 GMT
#1115
Reread the thread focusing on IAmRobik and Corazon. Robik is town, I don´t like his aggressive quirks but apart from an unexplained sheeping of Iamp it looks good. Corazon is probably like me, dislikes Robiks playstyle and tunnels. The scummiest thing he´s done is defending me, not sure what to think of that.

##Unvote

On July 09 2014 02:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Kush, why are you playing so differently from how you play your town game?

What did you mean with this post?
:3
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:14 GMT
#1116
I really like anime this game
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 21:17 GMT
#1117
On July 09 2014 05:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Robik's "non-existent" reads:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 23:33 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:15 Koshi wrote:
Good idea.

Robik can you give me the names of people you think are scum currently?

I'm reading pg 43 right now. Trying to catch up.
I think I have more town than scum. Not sure who I think is scum. I don't remember anymore.
I think I don't like VE. I'm pretty sure I don't like VE. VE is gonna come here and yell and me blah blah blah, but I really don't like VE
I did however agree with VE's read on mderg. I think he was the one who said that he was afraid to interact. He was more than happy to engage with people in previous games and seems less than active in this game. Obviously the two of them wouldn't be scum buddies though.
I don't like Cora because he is scum reading me for having a useless filter. I am pretty sure I justify most if not all of my reads and if he really cared what they were, why wouldn't he ask me for them (if he couldn't find them in my posts).
Bunnies is another one that bothers me. Her post where she says that she's be worried about me if I call her top town was really lazy and disproved the night before in video mafia, so her reverting back to that type of read was really really "easy" and doesn't seem genuine to me.
Poofter is yet another suspect of mine. He expressed an eagerness to play this game and yet his focus is far from it. This is a weak read obviously, but I would keep my eye on him.
Oh right, I forgot about sloosh. That case was weird as a first post. Too down to business and not aloof enough. I guess the same could be said for damdred. Meh.

Turns out I actually have quite a few scum reads.

I like iamp and vivax obviously.
I think I like prplhz
I think I like toad

Those are my reads thus far.


SloOsh and Poofter, k OMGUS on Cora so I understand that one. Few lurkers but I think you posted that in another post. I didn´t expect to see VE and bunnies here. I played with VE way back, don´t remember bunnies.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 21:18 GMT
#1118
On July 09 2014 06:14 Alakaslam wrote:
I really like anime this game

Alakaslam, there were more anime girls and gifs in the early parts of the thread but they´ve dropped off drastically. Do something about it.
:3
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:19 GMT
#1119
Shazz an aardvark
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 08 2014 21:20 GMT
#1120
Nonono that was ninja not directed @ u

Is random

I forgot British slang
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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