I can't handle it anymore, I might not find a cheater's way out as people have done it(his past exams are the same as his current one, if people have friends that have took him before, they could just copy the test since it was open notes/book). The first test, I bombed solely on I had no idea what I was doing. Completely I felt it was insanely hard and cumbersome. But the last exam, I got it back today. I was surely I passed it but got a 60. Many people, and some of my friends who cheated got 90+ I'm not saying I am jealous or whatever because I understand physics in most of the fundamental concepts by failing it, but since I don't want to further decline my GPA, I have decided to drop it. It feels to me that this semester I have either hard professors or I am becoming rather stupid as of late. All of my classes, I have had problems with. Dropping physics will make me retake it, which I do not want to... But I have to. If I could take the first test again, I would pass it, without a doubt in my mind. But I cannot do that, so it's worthless to me. I don't know what to do right now, I have a F currently in the class, what should I do? Advice?

Poll: Drop or not to drop?
(Vote): Drop and retake it with a better professor
(Vote): Don't drop and see if you can get a crazy high grade on finals

So no fek

United States3001 Posts

November 09 2007 20:19 GMT

That sucks man, I blew ass at high school Physics, so I share your pain. >.>

I'd do what you think is best, if you can end the class with an acceptable passing grade, it may not be a bad idea to do so, but if you think you're going to end the semester with a F, you may as well drop it.

If you do though, make sure you acquire a text book or something, and try to pound the fundamentals into your head, so you're ready to take it next semester (new teacher or not).

Either way, I wish you the best of luck.

QuanticHawk

United States32025 Posts

November 09 2007 20:19 GMT

drop it. dont fuck your gpa meng. tis why i just got readmitted to my school: i stuck it out when i knew i was fucked (or, liek in my frosh year, i thought it ddidnt matter either way lulz)

paper

13196 Posts

November 09 2007 20:41 GMT

if his tests are the same, why the fuck wouldn't you look at them?

are you going to college for the education or the degree?
because if it was for the educaiton, you'd be passionate about physics and get the A anyway

read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_(economics)

Raithed

China7078 Posts

November 09 2007 20:51 GMT

On November 10 2007 05:41 paper wrote:
if his tests are the same, why the fuck wouldn't you look at them?

are you going to college for the education or the degree?
because if it was for the educaiton, you'd be passionate about physics and get the A anyway

read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_(economics)

1. I need someone to have the test. Which I don't.
2. I am going to college for the education AND the degree, I'm trying to balance out my routine, it's hard but whatever. I have no idea about physics until this year. Maybe if you went to this professor's lectures and whatnot, you'd understand how he taught it. He lectured about the book, basically, I sat in class and read the book while he lectured on it. Whatever the case may be though, I just ... blah.

Snet

United States3573 Posts

November 09 2007 21:04 GMT

Drop it and retake, if money is a problem you can try busting your ass to get a C or something

fanatacist

10319 Posts

November 09 2007 21:21 GMT

Failing tests stems from lack of understanding. Lack of understanding stems from either insufficient work or poor teaching. You have to decide on whether the problem lies in yourself or your professor. Consider the fact that when you have trouble understanding anything, it's up to you to fix it, perhaps with the help of your professor. Even a bad professor could be overcome with hard work, but if there is a better one available you might want to try that.

Physics is definitely an attainable science, especially at the level of problems which I've seen you post (if I remember correctly). You just have to see where your lack of comprehension is coming from.

fight_or_flight

United States3988 Posts

November 09 2007 21:21 GMT

Is this high school? Because if its college, you might want to look very carefully at when the courses are offered. If you need to take the physics series, then its possible that dropping this would set you back a year. So just check out the scheduling and what you plan to take when before you drop anything.

cava

United States1035 Posts

November 09 2007 21:40 GMT

Don't drop it. It won't mess up your GPA because when you retake it it replaces your previous Grade, so by sticking with it you can at least see all the material the course has to offer so you are better prepared the next time around. Either way you will have to retake it, sticking with it will help you in the long run.

BluzMan

Russian Federation4235 Posts

November 09 2007 21:41 GMT

#10

Fail at physics = fail at life!!!

Just kidding, it's just that I've been studying physics for the last 5,5 years.

borg

171 Posts

November 09 2007 21:48 GMT

#11

there are good profs and bad. some have styles more compatible to your learning. if retaking the class at a later time isnt detrimental to your grades, that is the best possible solution. why hit your head against the wall, it isnt going to budge.

Dknight

United States5223 Posts

November 09 2007 21:56 GMT

#12

No one here can give you the answer you're looking for, especially with the information from this. What major are you, year, etc.

defenestrate

United States579 Posts

November 09 2007 22:07 GMT

#13

If this is intro mechanics, drop and retake. If you don't grasp the first few chapters well, it only goes downhill from there.

intrigue

Washington, D.C9933 Posts

November 09 2007 22:14 GMT

#14

it sounds like you're in intro to physics? if that's the case you have no excuse failing it. nearly any textbook alone is entirely sufficient for physics at that level.

if you put some work into it starting now you'd know your shit by the finals

Binky1842

United States2599 Posts

November 09 2007 22:57 GMT

#15

As to retake the tests. Obviously you cant retake the exact same test, so maybe the professor has an a,b,c,d version of the test, or maybe you or the professor could come up with some questions on the spot.

Stay with it if you plan on retaking the class. Next time you take it the higher grade will replace the lower grade.

Raithed

China7078 Posts

November 09 2007 23:06 GMT

#16

On November 10 2007 06:21 fight_or_flight wrote:
Is this high school? Because if its college, you might want to look very carefully at when the courses are offered. If you need to take the physics series, then its possible that dropping this would set you back a year. So just check out the scheduling and what you plan to take when before you drop anything.

It's being offered again next semester but I'm taking electrical courses instead, these BS courses I can take later. I want to get the heavy duty crap out of the way first.

Raithed

China7078 Posts

November 09 2007 23:10 GMT

#17

On November 10 2007 06:40 cava wrote:
Don't drop it. It won't mess up your GPA because when you retake it it replaces your previous Grade, so by sticking with it you can at least see all the material the course has to offer so you are better prepared the next time around. Either way you will have to retake it, sticking with it will help you in the long run.

My GPA is currently a solide 3.0somethingsomething, if I end up doing crap here, it will drop my GPA for sure as the class is a 4credit course.

On November 10 2007 07:57 Binky1842 wrote:
As to retake the tests. Obviously you cant retake the exact same test, so maybe the professor has an a,b,c,d version of the test, or maybe you or the professor could come up with some questions on the spot.

Stay with it if you plan on retaking the class. Next time you take it the higher grade will replace the lower grade.

I have to retake it, I need it to transfer to another college I want to go. >_> Gah, this is gay.

ArC_man

United States2798 Posts

November 10 2007 00:09 GMT

#18

If you've decided to drop it already, then drop it. No point in gutting it out and scraping a shitty grade unless the class is crucial (as in it's a prereq for other classes you have to take next semester, etc). This is still general physics, it's not like upper division physics where if you fuck up once, you're set back a whole year. Just make sure you prepare well for next semester.

Razamataz

Canada135 Posts

November 10 2007 00:11 GMT

#19

stop being a pussy LOL

Night[Mare

Mexico4793 Posts

November 10 2007 02:36 GMT

#20

I dont know how seriously you take high school at the moment, but here is my advice:
if you dont think the high school is serious ( what i think ); take your chances and get a good grade on the final, cheat if you must, but i'd rather study very hard than cheat.

if you think the high school is serious enough for you, rather drop it and retake it; you'll learn what you've missed and make it stone solid. After all, if you're serious, thats what will benefit most to you