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On June 06 2014 01:36 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Well, he is playing right now. I don't like being lynched as town.
Also I want to post so much proof that I'm not mafia that I can claim in the post game that the people who lynched me did so with absolutely 0 good reasons.
I think I'm almost there.
Like I would shut up and let you guys lynch me if you signed a form first that says:
"I understand that I'm lynching Palmar based on absolutely nothing because I am afraid of words and my brain hurts when I think. I also don't like winning mafia games.
I take full responsibility for my idiocy."
sig: __________________________
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On June 06 2014 01:49 Amiko wrote: (I think you probably realized this, and that's why rereading is a new reason) It isn't new, I said "I gradually became convinced over n1"
But hey, fit it to your insane story all you like.
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I don't know guys, how can he be mafia if he is suggesting we sign a dumb form.
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Well, here's something that I don't get. If you're not mafia, why aren't you pushing people who you think are mafia? If I were you, I'd be trying to get everyone to vote for fuba.
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"I understand that I'm lynching Palmar based on absolutely nothing because I am afraid of words and my brain hurts when I think. I also don't like winning mafia games.
I take full responsibility for my idiocy."
sig: HaruR
Wait a minute, I dont want you to shut up. Continue on, your overreaction is fun to watch.
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On June 06 2014 01:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 01:49 Amiko wrote: (I think you probably realized this, and that's why rereading is a new reason) It isn't new, I said "I gradually became convinced over n1" But hey, fit it to your insane story all you like.
On June 06 2014 00:47 Palmar wrote:gradually over n1. He already made the posts that I wanted to lynch him for, but the inaction factor doesn't have an exact time on it, it's just a feeling that he isn't really trying.by the time I said he had a 95% chance of flipping mafia I was pretty damn sure
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On June 06 2014 00:47 Palmar wrote:gradually over n1. He already made the posts that I wanted to lynch him for, but the inaction factor doesn't have an exact time on it, it's just a feeling that he isn't really trying.by the time I said he had a 95% chance of flipping mafia I was pretty damn sure
On June 06 2014 01:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 01:35 Amiko wrote: Before I respond, let me get this straight:
You suspected M_Z on day 1, but were not sure. You became sure during night 1. You became sure because of M_Z's inactivity. Sort of. Jabber's flip and re-reading MZ's posting also helped. I had become pretty certain when I posted that 95% post, but it was mostly based on earlier evidence. And not inactivity precisely, but rather lack of commitment to solving the game. I don't care how much people post if they post the right things.
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Vote count:
Palmar (4) - sqrtofneg1, fuba, Amiko, HaruRH, mderg, fuba (1) - HaruRH
Not voting (1) : - Palmar
Currently Palmar is set to be lynched!
Day ends in
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On June 06 2014 01:49 Amiko wrote: My point on M_Z is pretty simple.
On Day 1, you say that you suspect M_Z. At this time, the case is not a slam dunk. This is your excuse for not pushing M_Z on Day 1 as an alternative for jabber. On Night 1, you become certain that M_Z is scum.
This suggests that something between your post Day 1 and your post Night 1 made you feel M_Z was confirmed scum.
This is where you're wrong. Nothing needs to happen. Who knows. Maybe I glanced at his filter, maybe I took a walk and it cleared my head, maybe I ate mushrooms and had hallucinations, maybe Jesus told me he was mafia.
I did not push MZ as an alternative to jabber because I believed that despite my hesitancy in lynching him we had to lynch him as he could never be kept around in the long run, and would be a very dangerous mislynch target later in the game if the game started going sour. There was plenty of evidence against jabber, but as I pointed out, he was just soooo scummy and sooo wrong that it was almost too much (and it was too much).
Like it sounds all fine and dandy in hindsight if I'd convinced myself he was 100% and started pushing an alternative lynch, but I'm not mafia so I wasn't sure. There's always that chance he just fucked up and was mafia.
On June 06 2014 01:49 Amiko wrote: In other words, your case against M_Z did not raise the points that you claim convinced you he was mafia
The bolded is just wrong.
My case raised exactly the points against M_Z that did the most to convince me MZ was mafia. The timing is unimportant really. jabber flipping town was sort of expected but his flip confirmed he was town. MZ flipping on my alignment (he had mentioned me being mafia earlier) helped me become more suspicious of him, MZ not doing anything over the night also added to my suspicion.
And the case post is posted when I fully expected to be shot, as I expected MZ to be actuallly mafia, and I wanted it absolutely clear that he was my target of choice.
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On June 06 2014 01:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Well, here's something that I don't get. If you're not mafia, why aren't you pushing people who you think are mafia? If I were you, I'd be trying to get everyone to vote for fuba. I'm not convinced it's fuba.
So if you guys could all be dears and start trying to figure out. Just pretend for the next 24 hours that I'm confirmed town, and go scumhunt the other two. Use reasons and stuff.
Then you can come back to me and lynch me. But it's hard to scumhunt when people are constantly pushing me as mafia for awful reasons.
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Thanks for quoting my posts, amiko, I know they're awesome.
Do you have a point?
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On June 06 2014 02:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 01:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Well, here's something that I don't get. If you're not mafia, why aren't you pushing people who you think are mafia? If I were you, I'd be trying to get everyone to vote for fuba. I'm not convinced it's fuba. So if you guys could all be dears and start trying to figure out. Just pretend for the next 24 hours that I'm confirmed town, and go scumhunt the other two. Use reasons and stuff. Then you can come back to me and lynch me. But it's hard to scumhunt when people are constantly pushing me as mafia for awful reasons. Here's the thing. It's either you or fuba. I'm lynching both you and fuba. The only question remaining is who to lynch first.
I believe that you're a more competent player, and that if you were mafia, it'd be easier for you rather than fuba to wiggle your way out of a lynch. So you're my target today. If you're not mafia, it's fuba.
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On June 06 2014 01:54 HaruRH wrote:
Wait a minute, I dont want you to shut up. Continue on, your overreaction is fun to watch.
And why do you think I'm overreacting?
Go find a game where I get lynched as mafia (titanic and championship are recent examples).
Compare me.
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On June 06 2014 02:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 02:00 Palmar wrote:On June 06 2014 01:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Well, here's something that I don't get. If you're not mafia, why aren't you pushing people who you think are mafia? If I were you, I'd be trying to get everyone to vote for fuba. I'm not convinced it's fuba. So if you guys could all be dears and start trying to figure out. Just pretend for the next 24 hours that I'm confirmed town, and go scumhunt the other two. Use reasons and stuff. Then you can come back to me and lynch me. But it's hard to scumhunt when people are constantly pushing me as mafia for awful reasons. Here's the thing. It's either you or fuba. I'm lynching both you and fuba. The only question remaining is who to lynch first. I believe that you're a more competent player, and that if you were mafia, it'd be easier for you rather than fuba to wiggle your way out of a lynch. So you're my target today. If you're not mafia, it's fuba. So you're lynching me out of fear?
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If Jesus told you he was mafia, I would still expect you to say Jesus told you he was mafia in that post.
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To me, the quotes posts are you attempting to squirm new reasons into a lynch (inactivity, rereading) that your posts at the time do not reflect.
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On June 06 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 02:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On June 06 2014 02:00 Palmar wrote:On June 06 2014 01:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Well, here's something that I don't get. If you're not mafia, why aren't you pushing people who you think are mafia? If I were you, I'd be trying to get everyone to vote for fuba. I'm not convinced it's fuba. So if you guys could all be dears and start trying to figure out. Just pretend for the next 24 hours that I'm confirmed town, and go scumhunt the other two. Use reasons and stuff. Then you can come back to me and lynch me. But it's hard to scumhunt when people are constantly pushing me as mafia for awful reasons. Here's the thing. It's either you or fuba. I'm lynching both you and fuba. The only question remaining is who to lynch first. I believe that you're a more competent player, and that if you were mafia, it'd be easier for you rather than fuba to wiggle your way out of a lynch. So you're my target today. If you're not mafia, it's fuba. So you're lynching me out of fear? Sure.
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Fuba can have his turn, but you are online now and responding.
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On June 06 2014 02:05 Amiko wrote: To me, the quotes posts are you attempting to squirm new reasons into a lynch (inactivity, rereading) that your posts at the time do not reflect. From now on, assume every point I make could possibly be inspired by rethinking, rereading, observation, events, jesus or various other things I don't tell you about.
It's 100% super clear what my thought process was.
1. jabber did super scummy things. 2. MZ did some scummy things 3. MZ did super scummy things. he still might contribute later 4. jabber is so scummy he might not be scum 5. we need to lynch him anyway, in case he's just bad mafia 6. can only lynch 1 person today. 8. jabber dies 10. Mz is still not contributing 11. shit day coming up, better post thoughts
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On June 06 2014 02:07 Amiko wrote: Fuba can have his turn, but you are online now and responding. Oh my bad, I'll go afk then so you can actually focus on someone who might be mafia.
You understand that you're now enabling two people to skirt by with absolutely no good reason to lynch me. You're not doing a very good job at being the town leader here.
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