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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
June 05 2014 19:26 GMT
#1261
On June 06 2014 04:21 Palmar wrote:
Actually no.

my day 1 reads tend to be solid

##unvote
##vote fuba

So do mine.
And mine says that you're mafia.
Imaginary
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 19:29 GMT
#1262
well then they clearly aren't solid.

##unvote
Computer says mafia
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 05 2014 19:30 GMT
#1263
I also realize that both Palmar and I, whether town or scum, will probably want to lynch mderg first because mderg is a much more difficult person to lynch than myself or palmar, respectively.

I'm not sure there's a way for town to win out of this situation if Palmar isn't scum, tbh XD I feel like if I'm lynched first then Palmar is almost definitely the next lynch, judging from the thread recently. And if Palmar is lynched first then I'm not sure I see people lynching mderg over me, when even I've admitted that it makes more sense that he was actually roleblocked than scum is faking the roleblock.

Because my game feels pretty much over either way, I'll just sheep Amiko.

##Vote: Palmar

Because why not~
@theRealMkfuba07
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 05 2014 20:00 GMT
#1264
Vote count:


Palmar (4) - sqrtofneg1, fuba, Amiko, HaruRH, mderg, fuba
fuba (1) - HaruRH, Palmar
mderg (0) - fuba, Palmar

Not voting (1) : - Palmar


Currently Palmar is set to be lynched!


Day ends in
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 05 2014 21:17 GMT
#1265
I feel like Palmar´s defense is completely based on 1 point, that he wouldn´t play like this as mafia. His actions would make sense as town but they would also make sense as scum.

His vote on bunnies doesn´t make him town. Slightly pushing a townie for weak reasons doesn´t instantly make one suspicious. It seems like a low risk low reward move to make as scum.

Semi-busing sloosh and gobble was without any follow up, so that didn´t actually put them under huge pressure, so it wasn´t very dangerous and could be used to distance himself from these two resulting in him being less suspicious when they flip or the other way around. It would be pretty ballsy but I think Palmar is capable of that.

Staying on MZ on day 2 also makes sense from a scum perspective because one more vote would have changed things. Especially with the third mafia not voting this could have ended in a mislynch and put a scumteam of sloosh, gobble, palmar in a good position.

So it all kinda comes down to this:
On June 06 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 00:16 Amiko wrote:
You ignore the point of the votes.
You don't have to have your votes split d2 because there are still plenty of wagons you can unite behind.

You can try to attack the people who swapped for a mislynch (Haru, sqrt, fuba)
And, you can bus slOosh the next day if you need to.

It doesn't matter if all three of you vote M_Z.

Who cares.

I'm telling you. I would not do what I did as mafia. I think it's a terrible strategy.

The thing about this is that it´s simply a matter of believing him or not believing him. And I don´t believe him.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 21:44 GMT
#1266
Oh look it's mderg not reading the thread
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 21:47 GMT
#1267
@fuba. at some point before day 2, I think it was during night 1 or so, you had a long back and forth with gobble. Can you explain why your suspicions of him seemed to just vanish and the first thing you did on the next day was to vote sqrtofneg1 who you had barely talked about.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 21:48 GMT
#1268
@mderg, please don't post again until you've read the thread.
Computer says mafia
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 05 2014 21:48 GMT
#1269
On June 06 2014 06:44 Palmar wrote:
Oh look it's mderg not reading the thread

Where do you take that shit from?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 22:02 GMT
#1270
On June 06 2014 06:48 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 06:44 Palmar wrote:
Oh look it's mderg not reading the thread

Where do you take that shit from?

From your post about me that blatantly displays you have at best skimmed the discussion between Amiko and I today and clearly shows you have no idea what the case against me is.
Computer says mafia
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 05 2014 22:04 GMT
#1271
On June 06 2014 07:02 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 06:48 mderg wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:44 Palmar wrote:
Oh look it's mderg not reading the thread

Where do you take that shit from?

From your post about me that blatantly displays you have at best skimmed the discussion between Amiko and I today and clearly shows you have no idea what the case against me is.

let´s just say I disagree.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 22:08 GMT
#1272
On June 06 2014 07:04 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 07:02 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:48 mderg wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:44 Palmar wrote:
Oh look it's mderg not reading the thread

Where do you take that shit from?

From your post about me that blatantly displays you have at best skimmed the discussion between Amiko and I today and clearly shows you have no idea what the case against me is.

let´s just say I disagree.

I wasn't giving you my opinion. You not following the game is a fact, it's right there in the post above.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 22:11 GMT
#1273
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
I feel like Palmar´s defense is completely based on 1 point, that he wouldn´t play like this as mafia. His actions would make sense as town but they would also make sense as scum.


No it isn't, you're not reading the thread.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
His vote on bunnies doesn´t make him town. Slightly pushing a townie for weak reasons doesn´t instantly make one suspicious. It seems like a low risk low reward move to make as scum.


Or alternatively, it's a simple "let's poke it and see what happens" move for town.

You're clearly working in a mindset where you first have decided I'm mafia and then you apply reasons for my actions based on your foregone conclusion.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Semi-busing sloosh and gobble was without any follow up, so that didn´t actually put them under huge pressure, so it wasn´t very dangerous and could be used to distance himself from these two resulting in him being less suspicious when they flip or the other way around. It would be pretty ballsy but I think Palmar is capable of that.


I am easily capable of busing people as mafia, I just don't leave myself without options.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Staying on MZ on day 2 also makes sense from a scum perspective because one more vote would have changed things. Especially with the third mafia not voting this could have ended in a mislynch and put a scumteam of sloosh, gobble, palmar in a good position.


Again, you're thinking "Palmar is mafia and here's why" Instead if "This is what Palmar did and it makes him X".

There is a perfectly good town explanation for me staying on MZ, I explained it at the time. I've been consistent throughout with my read on him. I quite openly explained why I was doing what I was doing.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
So it all kinda comes down to this:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 00:16 Amiko wrote:
You ignore the point of the votes.
You don't have to have your votes split d2 because there are still plenty of wagons you can unite behind.

You can try to attack the people who swapped for a mislynch (Haru, sqrt, fuba)
And, you can bus slOosh the next day if you need to.

It doesn't matter if all three of you vote M_Z.

Who cares.

I'm telling you. I would not do what I did as mafia. I think it's a terrible strategy.

The thing about this is that it´s simply a matter of believing him or not believing him. And I don´t believe him.


No it doesn't come down to that, that's the tiniest bit of the puzzle.
Computer says mafia
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 05 2014 22:12 GMT
#1274
On June 06 2014 07:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 07:04 mderg wrote:
On June 06 2014 07:02 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:48 mderg wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:44 Palmar wrote:
Oh look it's mderg not reading the thread

Where do you take that shit from?

From your post about me that blatantly displays you have at best skimmed the discussion between Amiko and I today and clearly shows you have no idea what the case against me is.

let´s just say I disagree.

I wasn't giving you my opinion. You not following the game is a fact, it's right there in the post above.

let´s just say I disagree.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 05 2014 22:14 GMT
#1275
On June 06 2014 07:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
I feel like Palmar´s defense is completely based on 1 point, that he wouldn´t play like this as mafia. His actions would make sense as town but they would also make sense as scum.


No it isn't, you're not reading the thread.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
His vote on bunnies doesn´t make him town. Slightly pushing a townie for weak reasons doesn´t instantly make one suspicious. It seems like a low risk low reward move to make as scum.


Or alternatively, it's a simple "let's poke it and see what happens" move for town.

You're clearly working in a mindset where you first have decided I'm mafia and then you apply reasons for my actions based on your foregone conclusion.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Semi-busing sloosh and gobble was without any follow up, so that didn´t actually put them under huge pressure, so it wasn´t very dangerous and could be used to distance himself from these two resulting in him being less suspicious when they flip or the other way around. It would be pretty ballsy but I think Palmar is capable of that.


I am easily capable of busing people as mafia, I just don't leave myself without options.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Staying on MZ on day 2 also makes sense from a scum perspective because one more vote would have changed things. Especially with the third mafia not voting this could have ended in a mislynch and put a scumteam of sloosh, gobble, palmar in a good position.


Again, you're thinking "Palmar is mafia and here's why" Instead if "This is what Palmar did and it makes him X".

There is a perfectly good town explanation for me staying on MZ, I explained it at the time. I've been consistent throughout with my read on him. I quite openly explained why I was doing what I was doing.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
So it all kinda comes down to this:
On June 06 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 00:16 Amiko wrote:
You ignore the point of the votes.
You don't have to have your votes split d2 because there are still plenty of wagons you can unite behind.

You can try to attack the people who swapped for a mislynch (Haru, sqrt, fuba)
And, you can bus slOosh the next day if you need to.

It doesn't matter if all three of you vote M_Z.

Who cares.

I'm telling you. I would not do what I did as mafia. I think it's a terrible strategy.

The thing about this is that it´s simply a matter of believing him or not believing him. And I don´t believe him.


No it doesn't come down to that, that's the tiniest bit of the puzzle.

I even said that your play also makes sense as town. I didn´t feel the need to explain the possible town mindset for every point because you already did that shit.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 22:23 GMT
#1276
On June 06 2014 07:14 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 07:11 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
I feel like Palmar´s defense is completely based on 1 point, that he wouldn´t play like this as mafia. His actions would make sense as town but they would also make sense as scum.


No it isn't, you're not reading the thread.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
His vote on bunnies doesn´t make him town. Slightly pushing a townie for weak reasons doesn´t instantly make one suspicious. It seems like a low risk low reward move to make as scum.


Or alternatively, it's a simple "let's poke it and see what happens" move for town.

You're clearly working in a mindset where you first have decided I'm mafia and then you apply reasons for my actions based on your foregone conclusion.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Semi-busing sloosh and gobble was without any follow up, so that didn´t actually put them under huge pressure, so it wasn´t very dangerous and could be used to distance himself from these two resulting in him being less suspicious when they flip or the other way around. It would be pretty ballsy but I think Palmar is capable of that.


I am easily capable of busing people as mafia, I just don't leave myself without options.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Staying on MZ on day 2 also makes sense from a scum perspective because one more vote would have changed things. Especially with the third mafia not voting this could have ended in a mislynch and put a scumteam of sloosh, gobble, palmar in a good position.


Again, you're thinking "Palmar is mafia and here's why" Instead if "This is what Palmar did and it makes him X".

There is a perfectly good town explanation for me staying on MZ, I explained it at the time. I've been consistent throughout with my read on him. I quite openly explained why I was doing what I was doing.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
So it all kinda comes down to this:
On June 06 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 00:16 Amiko wrote:
You ignore the point of the votes.
You don't have to have your votes split d2 because there are still plenty of wagons you can unite behind.

You can try to attack the people who swapped for a mislynch (Haru, sqrt, fuba)
And, you can bus slOosh the next day if you need to.

It doesn't matter if all three of you vote M_Z.

Who cares.

I'm telling you. I would not do what I did as mafia. I think it's a terrible strategy.

The thing about this is that it´s simply a matter of believing him or not believing him. And I don´t believe him.


No it doesn't come down to that, that's the tiniest bit of the puzzle.

I even said that your play also makes sense as town. I didn´t feel the need to explain the possible town mindset for every point because you already did that shit.


If my play makes sense as town, AND the only point against me is that you don't believe I wouldn't play like this as mafia, why are you voting me?
Computer says mafia
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 05 2014 22:42 GMT
#1277
On June 06 2014 07:23 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 07:14 mderg wrote:
On June 06 2014 07:11 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
I feel like Palmar´s defense is completely based on 1 point, that he wouldn´t play like this as mafia. His actions would make sense as town but they would also make sense as scum.


No it isn't, you're not reading the thread.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
His vote on bunnies doesn´t make him town. Slightly pushing a townie for weak reasons doesn´t instantly make one suspicious. It seems like a low risk low reward move to make as scum.


Or alternatively, it's a simple "let's poke it and see what happens" move for town.

You're clearly working in a mindset where you first have decided I'm mafia and then you apply reasons for my actions based on your foregone conclusion.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Semi-busing sloosh and gobble was without any follow up, so that didn´t actually put them under huge pressure, so it wasn´t very dangerous and could be used to distance himself from these two resulting in him being less suspicious when they flip or the other way around. It would be pretty ballsy but I think Palmar is capable of that.


I am easily capable of busing people as mafia, I just don't leave myself without options.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Staying on MZ on day 2 also makes sense from a scum perspective because one more vote would have changed things. Especially with the third mafia not voting this could have ended in a mislynch and put a scumteam of sloosh, gobble, palmar in a good position.


Again, you're thinking "Palmar is mafia and here's why" Instead if "This is what Palmar did and it makes him X".

There is a perfectly good town explanation for me staying on MZ, I explained it at the time. I've been consistent throughout with my read on him. I quite openly explained why I was doing what I was doing.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
So it all kinda comes down to this:
On June 06 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 00:16 Amiko wrote:
You ignore the point of the votes.
You don't have to have your votes split d2 because there are still plenty of wagons you can unite behind.

You can try to attack the people who swapped for a mislynch (Haru, sqrt, fuba)
And, you can bus slOosh the next day if you need to.

It doesn't matter if all three of you vote M_Z.

Who cares.

I'm telling you. I would not do what I did as mafia. I think it's a terrible strategy.

The thing about this is that it´s simply a matter of believing him or not believing him. And I don´t believe him.


No it doesn't come down to that, that's the tiniest bit of the puzzle.

I even said that your play also makes sense as town. I didn´t feel the need to explain the possible town mindset for every point because you already did that shit.


If my play makes sense as town, AND the only point against me is that you don't believe I wouldn't play like this as mafia, why are you voting me?

I think your play would make sense as both alignments. It´s explainable in either way but I think that play is more likely to come from mafia.
You made that huge post explaining why you can´t be scum but I don´t think any of the points you brought up make it impossible for you to be scum.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2014 22:44 GMT
#1278
On June 06 2014 07:42 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 07:23 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 07:14 mderg wrote:
On June 06 2014 07:11 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
I feel like Palmar´s defense is completely based on 1 point, that he wouldn´t play like this as mafia. His actions would make sense as town but they would also make sense as scum.


No it isn't, you're not reading the thread.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
His vote on bunnies doesn´t make him town. Slightly pushing a townie for weak reasons doesn´t instantly make one suspicious. It seems like a low risk low reward move to make as scum.


Or alternatively, it's a simple "let's poke it and see what happens" move for town.

You're clearly working in a mindset where you first have decided I'm mafia and then you apply reasons for my actions based on your foregone conclusion.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Semi-busing sloosh and gobble was without any follow up, so that didn´t actually put them under huge pressure, so it wasn´t very dangerous and could be used to distance himself from these two resulting in him being less suspicious when they flip or the other way around. It would be pretty ballsy but I think Palmar is capable of that.


I am easily capable of busing people as mafia, I just don't leave myself without options.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Staying on MZ on day 2 also makes sense from a scum perspective because one more vote would have changed things. Especially with the third mafia not voting this could have ended in a mislynch and put a scumteam of sloosh, gobble, palmar in a good position.


Again, you're thinking "Palmar is mafia and here's why" Instead if "This is what Palmar did and it makes him X".

There is a perfectly good town explanation for me staying on MZ, I explained it at the time. I've been consistent throughout with my read on him. I quite openly explained why I was doing what I was doing.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
So it all kinda comes down to this:
On June 06 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 00:16 Amiko wrote:
You ignore the point of the votes.
You don't have to have your votes split d2 because there are still plenty of wagons you can unite behind.

You can try to attack the people who swapped for a mislynch (Haru, sqrt, fuba)
And, you can bus slOosh the next day if you need to.

It doesn't matter if all three of you vote M_Z.

Who cares.

I'm telling you. I would not do what I did as mafia. I think it's a terrible strategy.

The thing about this is that it´s simply a matter of believing him or not believing him. And I don´t believe him.


No it doesn't come down to that, that's the tiniest bit of the puzzle.

I even said that your play also makes sense as town. I didn´t feel the need to explain the possible town mindset for every point because you already did that shit.


If my play makes sense as town, AND the only point against me is that you don't believe I wouldn't play like this as mafia, why are you voting me?

I think your play would make sense as both alignments. It´s explainable in either way but I think that play is more likely to come from mafia.
You made that huge post explaining why you can´t be scum but I don´t think any of the points you brought up make it impossible for you to be scum.


Okay, but does anything make it impossible for me to be town?

Why do you think I'm more likely to be mafia. You're being extremely vague.
Computer says mafia
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 05 2014 23:03 GMT
#1279
On June 06 2014 07:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 07:42 mderg wrote:
On June 06 2014 07:23 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 07:14 mderg wrote:
On June 06 2014 07:11 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
I feel like Palmar´s defense is completely based on 1 point, that he wouldn´t play like this as mafia. His actions would make sense as town but they would also make sense as scum.


No it isn't, you're not reading the thread.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
His vote on bunnies doesn´t make him town. Slightly pushing a townie for weak reasons doesn´t instantly make one suspicious. It seems like a low risk low reward move to make as scum.


Or alternatively, it's a simple "let's poke it and see what happens" move for town.

You're clearly working in a mindset where you first have decided I'm mafia and then you apply reasons for my actions based on your foregone conclusion.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Semi-busing sloosh and gobble was without any follow up, so that didn´t actually put them under huge pressure, so it wasn´t very dangerous and could be used to distance himself from these two resulting in him being less suspicious when they flip or the other way around. It would be pretty ballsy but I think Palmar is capable of that.


I am easily capable of busing people as mafia, I just don't leave myself without options.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
Staying on MZ on day 2 also makes sense from a scum perspective because one more vote would have changed things. Especially with the third mafia not voting this could have ended in a mislynch and put a scumteam of sloosh, gobble, palmar in a good position.


Again, you're thinking "Palmar is mafia and here's why" Instead if "This is what Palmar did and it makes him X".

There is a perfectly good town explanation for me staying on MZ, I explained it at the time. I've been consistent throughout with my read on him. I quite openly explained why I was doing what I was doing.

On June 06 2014 06:17 mderg wrote:
So it all kinda comes down to this:
On June 06 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote:
On June 06 2014 00:16 Amiko wrote:
You ignore the point of the votes.
You don't have to have your votes split d2 because there are still plenty of wagons you can unite behind.

You can try to attack the people who swapped for a mislynch (Haru, sqrt, fuba)
And, you can bus slOosh the next day if you need to.

It doesn't matter if all three of you vote M_Z.

Who cares.

I'm telling you. I would not do what I did as mafia. I think it's a terrible strategy.

The thing about this is that it´s simply a matter of believing him or not believing him. And I don´t believe him.


No it doesn't come down to that, that's the tiniest bit of the puzzle.

I even said that your play also makes sense as town. I didn´t feel the need to explain the possible town mindset for every point because you already did that shit.


If my play makes sense as town, AND the only point against me is that you don't believe I wouldn't play like this as mafia, why are you voting me?

I think your play would make sense as both alignments. It´s explainable in either way but I think that play is more likely to come from mafia.
You made that huge post explaining why you can´t be scum but I don´t think any of the points you brought up make it impossible for you to be scum.


Okay, but does anything make it impossible for me to be town?

Why do you think I'm more likely to be mafia. You're being extremely vague.

No.

The semi bus on sloosh and gobble without any follow up and your day 2 vote on MZ. Both would have strong scum reasons behind them.
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Well, I´m out for today. Need some sleep.
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