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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
If you want to go AFK go for it, but I don't think it'll help you. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:28 Amiko wrote: Whether you are town or scum, you have an incentive to stay and respond. If you want to go AFK go for it, but I don't think it'll help you. Well I'm not exactly sure what'll help me. I'm doing my best but you've got your head so firmly up your ass nothing I say is getting through. | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:29 Palmar wrote: Well I'm not exactly sure what'll help me. I'm doing my best but you've got your head so firmly up your ass nothing I say is getting through. I don't like this attitude. | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
Argue all you want, but insulting won't help. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:26 Palmar wrote: From now on, assume every point I make could possibly be inspired by rethinking, rereading, observation, events, jesus or various other things I don't tell you about. It's 100% super clear what my thought process was. 1. jabber did super scummy things. 2. MZ did some scummy things 3. MZ did super scummy things. he still might contribute later 4. jabber is so scummy he might not be scum 5. we need to lynch him anyway, in case he's just bad mafia 6. can only lynch 1 person today. 8. jabber dies 10. Mz is still not contributing 11. shit day coming up, better post thoughts It's so clear you even skipped 7 and 9. (I don't care much about that but it is funny since it reflects you were reordering the 100% clear thoughts) Why would I assume someone has good reasons for their actions if they don't tell me the reasons? That's basically contrary to the game. I'm certainly not going to give you that benefit. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
If are town and you get lynched today, there's a chance you'd see something in mderg or fuba that we didn't. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
Using the kills on d2 and 3 as proof, we have: Bunnies - n2 Bunnies was active at n2 exactly after the lynch, where she said that she was catching up. Fuba was active at that time too. Mderg only came along 10 hours after all the fiasco. It could be right to assume that fuba sent in the name when bunnies was regarded as safe by amiko (amiko was asking bunnies about reads on others and never asked others on reads of her) and me and sqrt were suspected. This is a safe kill for fuba as it only causes trouble for everyone else to lose a 'confirmed' townie. Alakaslam - n3 On n3, both palmar and mderg were pretty active, figuring out the lylo situation. As scum, it would be wise to kill off slam since he could have been blue and was quite a confirmed townie by you all. Slam did not die on n2 since killing off bunnies would have been more beneficial, to deny her time to make claims. Thus, slam the confirmed town was killed off n3 instead. I'm still convinced its fuba. If Palmar is the scum, I'll. .. cry. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:32 Amiko wrote: It's so clear you even skipped 7 and 9. (I don't care much about that but it is funny since it reflects you were reordering the 100% clear thoughts) Why would I assume someone has good reasons for their actions if they don't tell me the reasons? That's basically contrary to the game. I'm certainly not going to give you that benefit. lol, 7 was a copy of 10 but I didn't think it needed to be said twice. 9 was "rethinking/rereading/mushrooms/jesus" but again, that's unimportant. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:30 sqrtofneg1 wrote: This attitude isn't gonna help you. Argue all you want, but insulting won't help. I'm not insulting him. maybe his ass is a real nice place. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:32 Amiko wrote: It's so clear you even skipped 7 and 9. (I don't care much about that but it is funny since it reflects you were reordering the 100% clear thoughts) Why would I assume someone has good reasons for their actions if they don't tell me the reasons? That's basically contrary to the game. I'm certainly not going to give you that benefit. No, you're requesting more than reasons. You're requesting inspiration and timeline. Like that has never been a thing in mafia anywhere. You're stuck in your confirmation bias where if I don't have an exact post MZ posted that made me think he's mafia and I responded immediately to that I must be mafia. In that post I was explaining why I thought he was mafia. Yes I gradually became more convinced over time. I probably did some rereading and even more rethinking. I also noticed his activity wasn't keeping up and his content was very lackluster. You're going to have to accept not everyone plays mafia the same way. If you cannot comprehend that I don't think exactly like you, this conversation is pointless. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:34 HaruRH wrote: I think I might be crazy, but fuba should be the scum in the pond we are looking for. His activity and the way people are killed coincides. Using the kills on d2 and 3 as proof, we have: Bunnies - n2 Bunnies was active at n2 exactly after the lynch, where she said that she was catching up. Fuba was active at that time too. Mderg only came along 10 hours after all the fiasco. It could be right to assume that fuba sent in the name when bunnies was regarded as safe by amiko (amiko was asking bunnies about reads on others and never asked others on reads of her) and me and sqrt were suspected. This is a safe kill for fuba as it only causes trouble for everyone else to lose a 'confirmed' townie. Alakaslam - n3 On n3, both palmar and mderg were pretty active, figuring out the lylo situation. As scum, it would be wise to kill off slam since he could have been blue and was quite a confirmed townie by you all. Slam did not die on n2 since killing off bunnies would have been more beneficial, to deny her time to make claims. Thus, slam the confirmed town was killed off n3 instead. I'm still convinced its fuba. If Palmar is the scum, I'll. .. cry. Ok, but why does that make fuba more likely than Palmar? Just to explain, you can change who you decide to kill / check as long as you do it a while before deadline. Mafia can send in the check at the beginning of the night or toward the end of the night (usually about an hour beforehand is nice so hosts can prepare the day post). It seems to me that either mafia-Fuba or mafia-Palmar would see bunnies and slam as relatively confirmed town. I think this would even apply to mafia-mderg. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:45 Palmar wrote: No, you're requesting more than reasons. You're requesting inspiration and timeline. Like that has never been a thing in mafia anywhere. You're stuck in your confirmation bias where if I don't have an exact post MZ posted that made me think he's mafia and I responded immediately to that I must be mafia. In that post I was explaining why I thought he was mafia. Yes I gradually became more convinced over time. I probably did some rereading and even more rethinking. I also noticed his activity wasn't keeping up and his content was very lackluster. You're going to have to accept not everyone plays mafia the same way. If you cannot comprehend that I don't think exactly like you, this conversation is pointless. You don't have to play mafia the same way as me. If I see behavior that looks scummy, I want to see an explanation. If the explanation doesn't seem to fit your play at the time, I'm more comfortable disregarding it. Timeline is absolutely a thing in mafia. Haven't you seen MS Paint? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:52 Amiko wrote: You don't have to play mafia the same way as me. If I see behavior that looks scummy, I want to see an explanation. If the explanation doesn't seem to fit your play at the time, I'm more comfortable disregarding it. Timeline is absolutely a thing in mafia. Haven't you seen MS Paint? Timeline is totally a thing. But only when you timetravel. I didn't timetravel. You don't need to tell me, I've used timeline arguments, but only when they actually apply. My play at the time fits everything I've said perfectly. You're wrong if you say it doesn't. Also, I'm going afk 4srs now because I actually need to do rl stuff for a while. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
I do want to give fuba & mderg some love also. | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Here's the thing. It's either you or fuba. I'm lynching both you and fuba. The only question remaining is who to lynch first. I believe that you're a more competent player, and that if you were mafia, it'd be easier for you rather than fuba to wiggle your way out of a lynch. So you're my target today. If you're not mafia, it's fuba. I agree that we lynch palmar over me, but if you disregard mderg when actual thread events explain how he could easily be scum, then you're throwing the game away. - He hard-hard-hard defends jabber while not actually searching for scum. - Chrom points this out and he's dead the next day - he votes MZ early on D2, comes back about a day later (when the sloosh wagon appears nigh-untouchable) and jumps on strong - At that point, if he's bussing his teammate, he can't possibly switch wagons or it'll look really suspicious for him - He is "roleblocked", making him look even more townie after the lynch - He spends the rest of the game basically agreeing with Amiko I'm not so much doing this to accuse mderg as to make everyone see that it's absolutely possible for him to be scum. Don't ignore him just because he voted SlOosh. If he's scum, a sloosh lynch seemed unavoidable unless some gullible townie waltzed in and convinced half the town to switch to MZ. By the time that happened, he had committed to the bus. He could not have switched back without looking very suspicious. The only people who should actually be acting like this is a solved game are me, palmar, and mderg, because we're the only ones who actually know where the scum is, 100%. Oh, and Haru's "case" on me has been responded to, and the response has been ignored. It isn't strong. It's based on the dying words of confirmed scum. There's no legitimacy to that argument whatsoever. I'll be around, but I dunno if I'll respond to a whole lot. I can't keep up with post speeds like Amiko and Palmar have been churning out, and the most anything I've posted this game has accomplished is almost diverting a lynch from scum to town, so I don't see anything I have to say actually changing anyone's opinion of my play. I'm certain the scum is between palmar and mderg, but am really uncertain which one it actually is. To me, it doesn't matter, because there are two days to lynch scum. In my own defense: I'll suggest you look at my interactions with gobble and try to explain it as two scum interacting. Unfortunately, at the time, the only person I asked for a response directly was SlOosh, so I was discouraged from a scum lynch by scum. (this is the kind of thing I was referring to when I said I'm not used to my words having this much impact, because a completely legit case against scum was completely ignored by everyone in town) Do you think that was a ploy involving the entire scumteam? ##Unvote ##Vote: mderg Because why not~ | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Do you think scum is likely to not use a roleblock on d2? Especially if scum used a roleblock on d1? When there is no watcher in the game, and there is a cop, it feels pretty unlikely. I can't deny it is possible, but it just seems like a stretch to me so I'd like to hear your explanation of that. | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
I know that it's likely that after Palmar, I'm next. And since I know I'm town, that would mean us losing the game (this is in the situation that palmar flips town, otherwise we wouldn't be lynching me at all XD). Preserving myself is a somewhat scummy mindset, as I said when I was voting for jabber, but it's kinda the mindset that all three of us have found ourselves in. Of me, palmar, and mderg, the one who gets the other two lynched wins the game. So while I hope it's Palmar, since that's definitely the easiest hurdle at this point in the game, mderg is the only other option if it's not. And I've been tricked by a scum ploy a few times this game already, so I'd like to be prepared if this is another one. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
@fuba: I don't see why not. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
my day 1 reads tend to be solid ##unvote ##vote fuba | ||
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