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On May 31 2014 02:18 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear. I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town. yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him. So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round. The wheels on the bus go round and round, as Palmar pushes his buddy.
If MZ flips scum feel free to lynch me for "busing".
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On May 31 2014 03:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 02:18 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear. I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town. yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him. So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round. The wheels on the bus go round and round, as Palmar pushes his buddy. If MZ flips scum feel free to lynch me for "busing".
I was told I'm so fucking townie that my votes count from the grave. #suckit
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oh you'll be dead too eh 
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I was worried about that, i feel switching is kinda dangerous in this set-up. But then mz is making emotional appeals rather than being a townie about to flip. Its a bit deja vu-ey
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On May 31 2014 03:08 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:06 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:
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yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking. Okay consider this then. If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan. If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy. Who is mafia with meapak?
If Cell C was today and the deadline was now I'd be voting you.
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On May 31 2014 03:06 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:
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I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town. yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him. So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking. Okay consider this then. If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan. If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy.
That's just not how I roll lol. Seriously look at any game I've been town lynched versus and game I've been scum lynched. I know why people are voting me, it's because they're lazy and don't feel like reading the thread. No amount of posts from me will change that.
Also Palmar is so fucking scum after that last post. Kill him when his time comes.
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On May 31 2014 03:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:06 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:
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yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking. Okay consider this then. If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan. If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy. That's just not how I roll lol. Seriously look at any game I've been town lynched versus and game I've been scum lynched. I know why people are voting me, it's because they're lazy and don't feel like reading the thread. No amount of posts from me will change that. Also Palmar is so fucking scum after that last post. Kill him when his time comes.
So MZ is probably town.
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Mmmk. Let's start with MZ first since he is mostly everyone's mafia read.
I would like to point out, I am not going to say who I think is mafia, until I go through each filter of the three up for lynch.
So MZ
His filter is surprisingly short. Wasn't expecting that.
So day 1- mayor election.
MZ seems a bit trolly imo. Asks things like, where are my cell members, says he immediately knows who the scum are in his cell (which that early, how can you possibly know that?) Says he's hard, makes multiple jokes about his penis, etc.
The whole finding scum within the first day was based on the freedom thing.
for example:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third. King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. On May 28 2014 08:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Oh shit Palmer or Wos mafia.
WoS how happy are you to be in this game bro?
Starting the read.
@mtamburini I hope you have your fake claim ready mine is this:
I have rolled Bouncer. You have 2 abilities which you can use only one. They are a) Bounce - Once during the game take a cell from the front of the line to the back. b) Cuts - Once during the game take any cell and place it at the front of the line.
What is your claim tambo? I have like 3 more I thought of yesterday if you need to borrow one for when we lynch you. Very happy. MZ who is the scum in my cell now that two of us have posted, go! I'm so glad you asked Wave, I just got off the telegraph with Teddy Roosevelt and he told me Palmar was scum so I'm gonna go with it.
Also, both ritoky and MZ wanted Cell A to go first. Either they were super sure thrawn (now odin) was scum, or one of them knew they could easily push a ml on someone who hadn't even spoken yet.
MZ also posts things like the following, which seems even more buddying up to me than just the freedom stuff.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 28 2014 09:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Mayor-Elect Ritoky could you dazzle me with some scum reads? On May 28 2014 09:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So Mayor-Elect Ritoky you would support a HF lynch?
I think that MZs best case on Odin is his post during day one about odin's four initial posts.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 29 2014 16:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 12:27 ritoky wrote:
Gonna leave this question here for when MZ and Odin come on:
@MZ, If the mod suddenly banned freedom and murrica from this thread, then what would you base your read on myself and Odin on?
@Odin, You talked about me, could you please give me some similar depth on MZ? I was initially all over you for the lulz mostly, I thought your intro post was good and not something scum would do but I really had no idea how things would pan out. Since then my initial judgement has been reaffirmed, I'd be townreading you right now even without the America stuff. Right now I'm actually baffled by the people who think Odin is town. He came in, made four posts and peaced. People are jacking off to how "protown" they were but honestly that's more just people repeating stuff that HF said. Because there are so few, let's take a quick look at these posts, since the way people are describing them I think some have forgotten what he actually said: + Show Spoiler +On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
I don't really like Rit's push for mayor. The whole way he words things seems flashy and contrived.
I have to really look at the motivation for it but I like what Bat said tbh.
If cell A goes first, scum get a easy ride on day1. Like everyone already knows I'm the lynch target in cell A.
Now assuming Rit is not scum, why would he push so hard for his own cell to go first when one of his members hasn't even posted? That's a big bet to take if your town. You're literally basing your first lynch on a coinflip.
So it's pretty obvious Palmar is the scum in B.
Holyflare is kind of making me worry too.
-Push for mayor super weird
-has a ton of filler post
-has a few prodding post with not so much follow up
Then again I'm going to just admit I have a hard time reading HF. So while I find HF to look odd, he does do this sort of thing all the time as both town/scum. But I don't think C is good group to go today anyway. So we'll have more time to see how it develops.
Between mderg/layabout I'm having a hard time.
Layabout is living up to his name. A few short filler post and he's gone.
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order
You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural. Firstly, his criticism of ritoky rings very hollow. He calls him out for wanting his cell to go first which is odd because when ritoky ran for mayor, there was no indication of who was going to be active or inactive is impossible to tell. This means ritoky's mayor run can't have been a scum plot from the start. That's not the only issue I have with this post. The one person who Odin actually calls out is the beleaguered Palmar who basically everyone wants to lynch at this point. That's just a very weak read and Palmar is probably a pretty good bus target right now for scum under fire to gain some cred off of. Odin finishes this post by doing something I personally hate which is telling everyone about something someone did and then not drawing any concrete conclusions. He starts with HF and concludes that "HF does this sort of thing all the time as both town/scum." Fantastic, why did we need to know that? HF is in no immediate danger of dying so why the need to inform the thread about your confusion, it's nothing more than a soft defense of HF without actually coming out and saying it. He then comments that layabout hasn't done anything, once again a very easy thing to say. Lastly, he bring up mderg's progression on rit for mayor and calls in "unnatural." Ironically enough, the manner in which he presents the progression is honestly pretty logical to me and this just seems like an attempt to throw dirt on mderg without actually calling him scummy. On May 29 2014 04:01 OdinOfPergo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 03:57 mderg wrote:On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order
You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural. I skimmed at first and didn´t like his posts. I later realized that I missed well elaborated posts while skimming. But I still didn´t agree with the cell order. So I wanted him to change the cell order to fit the more recent ongoings while elaborating similarly to before. What about Rit's post that you missed made you change your mind? Because to be honest I don't like most of his 'murica this and that filler. It's just him insta buddying anyone that happens to play along. What's the easiest way to lead an agenda? Make friends. His post feel rather forced to me. Elaborate yes, but not in a way that gives me good vibes. I HATE posts like this. Rit seems to be making friends, does that make him scum? Rit's posting feels forced, does that make him scum? It's elaborate and gives you bad vibes, does that make him scum? Odin presents a lot of things rit is doing and neither gives examples of why he feels that way or makes a solid conclusion. Like, c'mon man, you KNOW that either rit or I have to be scum. For some reason it's incredibly hard for odin to form a solid read (other than Palmar lol). When I started off the game I wanted to solve my own cell first because I had a whopping 50% chance of doing that. HF mentioned that one of the things he liked about odin was that he was reading the whole game. That's great, but at this point he can't even give a solid read on his own cell which honestly just screams scum who's not certain which cell member he'll have a better chance to misslynch. On May 29 2014 04:28 OdinOfPergo wrote:Ok so I'm just going to give you my analysis on that post. I'll post my thoughts in red.. Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 04:08 mderg wrote:On May 29 2014 04:01 OdinOfPergo wrote:On May 29 2014 03:57 mderg wrote:On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order
You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural. I skimmed at first and didn´t like his posts. I later realized that I missed well elaborated posts while skimming. But I still didn´t agree with the cell order. So I wanted him to change the cell order to fit the more recent ongoings while elaborating similarly to before. What about Rit's post that you missed made you change your mind? Because to be honest I don't like most of his 'murica this and that filler. It's just him insta buddying anyone that happens to play along. What's the easiest way to lead an agenda? Make friends. His post feel rather forced to me. Elaborate yes, but not in a way that gives me good vibes. i basically didn´t attribute this post to his play. In this everything is based on reasoning and is elaborated. Elaborating on the cell order and giving proper reasons is exactly what I expect from the mayor. So I changed my mind from definitely not voting him to thinking about voting him. On May 28 2014 09:41 ritoky wrote:On May 28 2014 09:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Mayor-Elect Ritoky could you dazzle me with some scum reads? In all seriousness, I am trying to think about this game slightly different than a normal mafia game. I am trying to think about it in terms of the cells and getting strong reads on players in the cells. Outside of the fact that freedom and murrica declare that Cell A should go first, I know I am town and I think you have posted and done enough in the thread for me to get a strong read on you. Thrawn has yet to post, so I can't speak with certainty, but I think there is a wealth of information in the thread about Cell A for people to make informed reads on two of us already. The town doesn't have a "wealth" of information. In fact, the only information that the town will have, if this goes through, is the scum in Cell A will be off in the obs qt laughing when I flip green. Like Rit's whole push for this seems odd. His insta town read on MZ for playing along with Freedom is a convenient way to make sure this goes along nicely.The next Cells I would consider after A are C or B. Probably C before B. In regards to Cell C, I think there is something off about ShiaoPi's post where he was critical of those who were joking. I didn't really find that it added much to the game beyond complaining about the state of the game. To me his complaints are anti-freedom. If he doesn't like the state of the game, why didn't he push hard for it to change to a more serious tone instead of just pointing it out and walking away? HF, unfortunately, has done more to push a town than Shiao but I also find his avoidance of certain questions and topics (such as my campaign against him) to be questionable. Batsnacks hasn't posted. We will see about him, but I think that after Cell A which will be very clear cut, how people vote in regards to cell C will be highly informative. Currently, I am about that Shiao kill in C (although I sways toward HF the more anti-freedom he spews). Why put C before B? In the previous sentence you admit to not being sure about someone? Like you do realize Cell C is probably the hardest group to make a read on? Cell B makes wayyyy more sense. I'm not entirely sure on the timeline for this post but Palmar has been playing anti-town since the beginning of the game. So this is a obvious choice anyway. So why put Cell C, with it's harder to read players, super early? To snag ez mislynches. People in this group won't have be being strongly read one way or the other more than likely. You're chances are better at landing a mislynch into this pool if you do it early.Cell B would probably be next, although I could be convinced that it should go before C. I think poofter has pitted himself against Palmar in a very strong way, and I think WoS's response to that direction opposition of two people in his cell will be very alignment indicative for him. I like poofter currently, as he is in my murrica huddle. I like his case as a baseline for starting an extensive inquiry into Palmar. I think he also needs to bit of time to really flesh it out with gameplay support or watch it fall through. Which is why I would have him go 3rd. Currently, I am about that Palmar kill in B. It's not that Poofter has pitted himself anywhere. Palmar literally claimed to be anti-town. More 'Murica buddying, like good for you right? If you're lucky you'll befriend enough of the town that you'll even get a town read after you get a mislynch day1. He even admits he's got a stronger read Cell B than C. Yet in his previous paragraph he wants to put C first, why?The last two would be probably E then D as of right now. Simply because I think we have the least information about those two at the moment and I can't say I have particularly strong feelings about any of the people outside of bunnies in those groups. I could be convinced to push D up after group A into the 2nd spot if someone convinces me of that sick tambo read, cuz his post was strange. I think it was him trying to make a joke about golden sun, but it fell flat and was awk. The last groups are simply at the back of the line becuase he "doesn't have info". Like why the hell is Cell A at the very front of his list then? Thrawn hadn't posted yet. How much less info could you have? Oh right, cuz MZ his Freedom loving cuddlebuddy. So ye, in conclusion.. What exactly was suppose to make me feel better in that post? It's fishy, and there is an obvious agenda in it. Ok this post is gonna be rough, bear with me. I'm first gonna talk about why the red on the innermost quote is wrong. His first read paragraph reads like a scum scared to get lynched. He freakin references the scum team laughing at him dying which is just so alarmist as to be comical. He once again calls rit's play "odd." Like what the fuck does that even mean? Is that scummy? We don't know because odin doesn't take a stand Next red paragraph: His whole fault with rit's plan is that he thinks it opens the opportunity for a mislynch, also he calls our Palmar, his only real read, again. Next red paragraph: here's he's just trying to create a problem, ritkoy wants to kill Palmar just as much as odin supposedly does, however he feels the need to once again say that something is off because rit won't put B in front of C, DESPITE the fact that rit literally says in his post that he'd be willing to change the order. This smacks of willful missreading on the part of odin. Last red paragraph: he's butthurt everyone wants A to go first because nobody wants to deal with a group where no one has posted. But odin once again construes this as bad because clearly rit is plotting with me In conclusion, odin says the post is "fishy" and "has an obvious agenda." Really? You just fucking analyzed this dude in red text and you can't take a strong position on it? The only agenda I saw reading this post was the one where odin portrayed ritoky as scummy for putting D and E last when that's what literally everyone in the thread wanted. I really feel like people either only red the read text or didn't read the post at all because there is nothing about this post that "looks good" or "looks town." This feels like a contrived mess from a scum who's been caught and isn't sure which misslynch will be his saving grace. Odin has been tunnel city on ritoky and still can't even call him scum. On May 29 2014 04:59 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Well I have to work tonight.
So I won't be around much longer.
I don't want Rit for mayor. Reasons I already said.
##Vote:batsnacks
His last chance to produce an actual read and the best he can do is say he doesn't want rit for mayor and votes batsnacks. This vote is odd as a townie because batsnacks doesn't want B to go first which was odin's whole problem with ritoky's plan, however as a scum it makes sense because it puts C first so Odin won't be under fire right away. I highly encourage everyone to actually read odin's filter (it's short I promise and it's all in this post in case you forget) because I feel like at the moment there are people parroting what others have said regrading odin's towniness.
I'm curious, MZ, on the following
On May 31 2014 02:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I am so pumped for my flip because it'll basically confirm sloosh as scum so even though we'll lose my cell we'll pick up another.
Anyone want any last minute reads off of me that you can go back and reference later?
I'm not entirely sure why if you flip town, how does that make sloosh auto mafia? I know he made a big case on you (one I need to read more thoroughly probably), but Does that mean everyone who views you as scummy right now are mafia? Cause that is about everyone.
Also, I feel that MZ doesnt really place a solid case on Odin, unless I have missed something in his filter, other than the first post he made on his case on odin, and then just basically saying ritoky is town, so odin is mafia.
My analysis on Odin next.
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On May 31 2014 03:15 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:08 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 03:06 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some.
Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking. Okay consider this then. If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan. If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy. Who is mafia with meapak? If Cell C was today and the deadline was now I'd be voting you.
That's the wrong answer on so many levels.
1) I'm town
2) you just gave 1 name
3) The reason I asked the question was to see if you would list the people who already have their vote on him. The premise of what you said had to do with the fact that if meapak is mafia, he's not worried cause his mafia teammates are already voting for him.
#getwreckt
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Too bad I can't save you
##Unvote MZ
##Vote ritoky
Reason: I don't expect anyone to follow this but whatever, because it relies on me knowing I'm town.
if MZ is actually mafia, I'm basically a lock mislynch for his team. There is literally no reason for him as scum to call me out as being scum which might (even if weak) be at some point interpreted as me actually being town. if he's mafia he'd probably just not comment on me at all because that makes sure he doesn't accidentally absolve me.
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Counting of votes:
OdinOfPergo (0): Palmar
ritoky (2): mderg, Palmar
Meapak_Ziphh (5): WaveofShadow, slOosh, layabout, OdinOfPergo, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi
Not voting (8): mtamburini, ShiaoPi, batsnacks, Meapak_Ziphh, Tehpoofter, ritoky, Holyflare, 27ninjabunnies
Currently, Meapak_Ziphh is set to be lynched.
You have until Friday, May 30 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote.
Voting is mandatory!
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: WaveofShadow voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: slOosh voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: layabout voted meapak ziph (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: OdinOfPergo voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: mderg voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted Meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted ritoky ( post)
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On May 31 2014 03:26 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:15 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:08 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 03:06 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:
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That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking. Okay consider this then. If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan. If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy. Who is mafia with meapak? If Cell C was today and the deadline was now I'd be voting you. That's the wrong answer on so many levels. 1) I'm town 2) you just gave 1 name 3) The reason I asked the question was to see if you would list the people who already have their vote on him. The premise of what you said had to do with the fact that if meapak is mafia, he's not worried cause his mafia teammates are already voting for him. #getwreckt
The only groups I've given enough thought to answer that are A and C because those are the only groups I will be alive to vote for. You got the right answer.
Thinking about it now though, if I was alive to vote for Cell B I would vote Palmar no matter who else was in the group.
If you want reads you'll have to ask me more specific questions than that, or just read my filter, I've been giving them out as they come.
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On May 31 2014 03:27 Palmar wrote:
Too bad I can't save you
##Unvote MZ
##Vote ritoky
Reason: I don't expect anyone to follow this but whatever, because it relies on me knowing I'm town.
if MZ is actually mafia, I'm basically a lock mislynch for his team. There is literally no reason for him as scum to call me out as being scum which might (even if weak) be at some point interpreted as me actually being town. if he's mafia he'd probably just not comment on me at all because that makes sure he doesn't accidentally absolve me.
lolol look at this right here. Palmar knows I'm town and that my flip will be the nail in his coffin.
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I'm super prepared to switch to rito btw cold feet and all. If Odin is mafia he deserves the cell win.
plus his entire spiel about not wanting cell d at lylo makes doesn't quite add up since 3&4 could also be lylo and if we reach the 5th cell and win it we win but if that cell were earlier we would potentially have won earlier, 5th should be the 'crapshoot'
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Out all night don't switch this mz defence useless, he's made like 1 or 2 posts against odin and then pretty much fucked off
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This is a disgrace with 3 hours to go
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Never voting meapak
On May 31 2014 03:36 Holyflare wrote:
##vote meapak z
On May 31 2014 03:37 batsnacks wrote:
##vote Meapak_Ziphh
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My new town list is meapak, plammmmar and layabout
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