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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On May 30 2014 08:07 Palmar wrote: MZ looks pretty town for talking about his penis. I haven't read the other two. Palmar is town for making a read based off of talking about someone's penis | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
##Vote OdinOfPergo reason: he calls me mafia for acting anti-town, when he literally just played a game where he called me mafia for playing anti-town and I wasn't mafia. ie: he should know I'm a compulsive asshole and thus not read anything into it. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On May 30 2014 08:09 IAmRobik wrote: Palmar is town for making a read based off of talking about someone's penis Robik is probably town for realizing I'm town for making a read on someone based on him talking about his penis. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
I think Odin's level of frustration is not particularly alignment indicative for me, but if someone has meta information about when/if he rages as certain alignments or both that could be helpful. I think his frustration comes from a position of entering late into a game into the group going first that has two people who were being read as town by much of the game at the time he entered. But again, to me that doesn't give me much alignment information, could be frustrated town or frustrated mafia. It also makes it so that nearly half of the posts he put out are a wash. The thing that gave me pause about Odin when he entered the thread was his choice of who to pursue as the scum in his cell. He chose me. At first I had a bit of an OMGUS reaction to it, but then I read some of what HolyFlare was saying about it and it made a lot of sense. Mostly about how that was the less optimal and more difficult path. The easier path would be to not target the guy being elected mayor and to push on MZ for the sheeping/buddying. But I mean, that is kinda where he has ended up at now. And I also feel that a lot of his reasoning behind his suspicions of MZ are just taken directly from sloosh's post (which I personally think brings up the best point against MZ thus far that he hasn't actually responded to). I also dislike a lot of his talk and conclusions about the other cells a lot more than I dislike MZ's, but there's also a lot of prodding and questioning in Odin's which is a + point, whereas MZ's is a lot of summary information. However, the biggest thing stopping me from just locking a vote on Odin is the point sloosh made about MZ toward the end of his accusation. You see, a lot of people have been critical of MZ for basically how the first page of his filter is him saying he has a town read on me, sheeping me hard, and spewing freedom. Which is fine, that can be part of your read, but if that is all of your reasoning like it is for a few people; well then you need further examination (especially given that I feel MZ has given a lot more content than just that to comment on). BUT back to sloosh's point: On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote: I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: This is quickly followed with a slew of This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh I think the bolded part is more interesting than the buddying up early stuff that everyone else seems hung up on. All of this said, I still think as of right now Odin is more of the scum than MZ. I have come down a bit on MZ since the start of the game, but not enough to call Odin more town. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
Robik Ritoky Iceland Although I'm probably not serious about Palmar | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I'll read MZ's non-penis comments later. Sloosh's post (I've not actually read this game, so I hadn't seen it) is surprisingly good. | ||
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mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
Also what do you think about the people in your cell? | ||
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mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On May 30 2014 08:17 mtamburini wrote: Just hoped back online gonna read th whole thread over, noticed robik is in as a replacement. How do you think the person before you was playing, more towny or scummy and anything you wouldve said differently? Also what do you think about the people in your cell? I haven't read his posts, nor have I read anything that happened before like page 44 besides skimming WoS's filter. I really don't care what my predecessor said, but I can assure you that it came from a towny mindset. As for my cell -- I'm cool with lynching HF right meow, but I'll probably read the thread and make a real opinion on who is scummier of the two at some point | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On May 30 2014 08:21 IAmRobik wrote: I haven't read his posts, nor have I read anything that happened before like page 44 besides skimming WoS's filter. I really don't care what my predecessor said, but I can assure you that it came from a towny mindset. As for my cell -- I'm cool with lynching HF right meow, but I'll probably read the thread and make a real opinion on who is scummier of the two at some point i lol'd | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 30 2014 08:09 layabout wrote: Oh fuck off ninja that is such shit Lmao. you mad brah? | ||
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mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
On May 28 2014 09:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: Because 1/3 is still only 33%. I mean it works for my own cell because i have a fifty percent chance of hitting mafia in my own cell, but everyone else only thirty three percent. That may seem a lot, but its actually not. Id rather base my reads of mafia on plays and their reads rather than on some stupid statistical machine that can't read into what a person writes. In our DM games mafia is 25% or less of the town as we use a 4:1 ratio. Your point is invalid. Sure READS are apart of the game and Im thankful I am in a position to absorb as much information as I can (besides your group being in the last spot) I can explore other possibilities besides my RNG results. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 30 2014 08:46 mtamburini wrote: In our DM games mafia is 25% or less of the town as we use a 4:1 ratio. Your point is invalid. Sure READS are apart of the game and Im thankful I am in a position to absorb as much information as I can (besides your group being in the last spot) I can explore other possibilities besides my RNG results. Yeah but we dont rng who we think is mafia, then lynch based on that, so your point is invalid. We base on reads. So start absorbing information, and start explorin other possibilities, because youve barely done anything this game. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On May 30 2014 07:43 27ninjabunnies wrote: Not that i'm against palmer posting, but can you stop being a hypocrite? Would it kill you to post?! I read through your filter and all I saw was... Ima give read... This person is scummy, but i have no basis for it... Someone should post something. So unless you do something too, hush. Thanks. On May 30 2014 08:09 layabout wrote: Oh fuck off ninja that is such shit So what is such shit about it? She's right, you haven't really given proper reasons for your read and you sure haven't got the basis for town reading odin that you'd have to choose between ritoky and mz. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
rito and mz both ake sense as mafia but Odin i do not see | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 30 2014 09:45 layabout wrote: But what is scummy about Odin? rito and mz both ake sense as mafia but Odin i do not see So tell us why rito and mz make more sense as mafia than odin. Dont just state it, then not give a read behind it. How does that help us know where you are at? | ||
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