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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 30 2014 02:15 GMT
#921
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Confirmation bias inc weeeooooweeeoooo
Sloosh's case on MZ READS like a bus.

You mentioned it yourself that it's 'hard not to agree' with what Sloosh wrote but that's because there's no substance there. MZ's filter is fluffy and as scum he would want to go first. Yes, and?

It's weak and leaves room for basically any real effort from MZ to shut it down on its own.

ANd then not even 45 min later after not posting in over a day he shows up and posts his own shit.
Essentially ignores Sloosh's case in favour of interacting with other members of the thread until prodded...it's a bunch of little things that look like shit.

I am a terrible player for posting the above but it's gotta be said. I want to see Sloosh come back now and respond to MZ's 'defense.'


Here's my problem with this. From what I have read, sloosh's case is the best comprehensive case against MZ out there right now.

If you say Odin's is better, I completely disagree. I think Odin's just took everything from Sloosh's and reworded it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 30 2014 02:17 GMT
#922
On May 30 2014 11:15 Holyflare wrote:
Just wanted to get your input on things because i had scummy wave feels and more input is always good. You also change your mind a lot

This game especially.
Is changing one's mind seen as a scummy or towny trait generally?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2014 02:18 GMT
#923
On May 30 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 30 2014 10:57 Holyflare wrote:
Robik hasn't done shit yet, he started throwing out reads and then said hasn't read before page 44 and briefly your filter. Why did he start with your filter when his whole reason for snap accepting was to lynch me?

Is that scummy?

I'm curious because I think Palmar essentially does the same thing.


I would think town robik would jump at the chance to read my filter and find scummy things. I think mafia robik would look elsewhere.

So you think a Palmar/Robik scumteam would both try and push me as scum in almost exactly the same way?

Personally when it comes to your group I think I'm gonna go the process of elim route---if I can find reason enough to find Shiao/Robik towny now then I'll be able to vote you with no qualms. Finding scummy things in someone's filter is easy to do from either alignment for any reason and I don't think your comment says much about Robik at all.


It's not about finding them and showing them. His ONLY reason for replacing was to get me lynched. His entrance post says "I'm town and I'm happy that there's a 50% chance hf is mafia!" then proceeds to completely ditch everything to do with the reason he joined (he knows I'm town) and randonly pick out your filter? Like wth? What towny does that?

Not to mention shiaopi replaced out instead of just afking more.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2014 02:19 GMT
#924
On May 30 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:15 Holyflare wrote:
Just wanted to get your input on things because i had scummy wave feels and more input is always good. You also change your mind a lot

This game especially.
Is changing one's mind seen as a scummy or towny trait generally?


Null to town but you do that in every game so i kinda just want words down in thread so you're accountable for things later.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 30 2014 02:19 GMT
#925
On May 30 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Confirmation bias inc weeeooooweeeoooo
Sloosh's case on MZ READS like a bus.

You mentioned it yourself that it's 'hard not to agree' with what Sloosh wrote but that's because there's no substance there. MZ's filter is fluffy and as scum he would want to go first. Yes, and?

It's weak and leaves room for basically any real effort from MZ to shut it down on its own.

ANd then not even 45 min later after not posting in over a day he shows up and posts his own shit.
Essentially ignores Sloosh's case in favour of interacting with other members of the thread until prodded...it's a bunch of little things that look like shit.

I am a terrible player for posting the above but it's gotta be said. I want to see Sloosh come back now and respond to MZ's 'defense.'


Here's my problem with this. From what I have read, sloosh's case is the best comprehensive case against MZ out there right now.

If you say Odin's is better, I completely disagree. I think Odin's just took everything from Sloosh's and reworded it.

I actually haven't really looked into Odin's yet at all.
Despite popular belief, I don't think comprehensive cases on specific targets matter a hell of a lot. Look at how often Foolishness posts stuff like that (don't actually know if you've ever been exposed to him though...look at the old Shadow game if you want an example).

Cases say more about the people who wrote them then the people they're about, my fran'.

Are you saying that just because Sloosh wrote a comprehensive case (which it truly isn't but whatever I'll concede that point) that it makes him right? Or even further, that it makes him town?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 30 2014 02:19 GMT
#926
hi.

im back for real now and im about to obvious town the hell out of this thread.

prepare your butts. also, fun fact:

On May 30 2014 06:57 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 06:54 Holyflare wrote:
On May 30 2014 06:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Put me in coach!

I wasn't gonna sub in cause I was scared of rolling maf, but I heard I would be in a group with holyflare and I snap-accepted. Then Artanis told me I'm town and the fact that there's a 50% chance of HF being mafia and a chance for me to shit all over him if he is makes me super duper happy.


there is no way on this planet that you are town

Artanis didn't tell me that we are playing this game on another planet


i am now multiaccounting. be afraid. be very afraid.
Retired.
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 30 2014 02:20 GMT
#927
On May 30 2014 08:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 08:46 mtamburini wrote:
On May 28 2014 09:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 09:41 mtamburini wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:30 mtamburini wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:24 mtamburini wrote:
As long as these 5 people dont get mayor we will be in a good spot according to random.org


Random. Org is stupid in a setup like this imo.

Also, you are scum. Im kinda sad that you arent in my cell.

Then again, maybe i just like tunneling you.


Why would RNG be stupid in this setup?


Because it is. It's not even statistically significant in this setup.

And it so worked in the other game I played (sarcasm)


Why do you say its not significant? Guessing 1/3 in one cell is better then guessing possibly 5/33 in that other game. And guessing 1/2 is better than that so I dont see any justification in your counter point.

Because 1/3 is still only 33%.


I mean it works for my own cell because i have a fifty percent chance of hitting mafia in my own cell, but everyone else only thirty three percent. That may seem a lot, but its actually not.

Id rather base my reads of mafia on plays and their reads rather than on some stupid statistical machine that can't read into what a person writes.


In our DM games mafia is 25% or less of the town as we use a 4:1 ratio. Your point is invalid.

Sure READS are apart of the game and Im thankful I am in a position to absorb as much information as I can (besides your group being in the last spot) I can explore other possibilities besides my RNG results.


Yeah but we dont rng who we think is mafia, then lynch based on that, so your point is invalid.

We base on reads. So start absorbing information, and start explorin other possibilities, because youve barely done anything this game.


Your post is bs because you get a couple reads and then you use POE as a way to lynch people which is statistics being used.

Your tunnel on me is bs

Ive read through your filter and nothing really impressed me and you keep talking about me not being here and not posting and are ready to lynch me when it comes to my cell BUT when you talk about the people in your cell you refuse to give reads on them because they have not posted.

If you do not understand statistics then do not comment on them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2014 02:20 GMT
#928
On May 30 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Confirmation bias inc weeeooooweeeoooo
Sloosh's case on MZ READS like a bus.

You mentioned it yourself that it's 'hard not to agree' with what Sloosh wrote but that's because there's no substance there. MZ's filter is fluffy and as scum he would want to go first. Yes, and?

It's weak and leaves room for basically any real effort from MZ to shut it down on its own.

ANd then not even 45 min later after not posting in over a day he shows up and posts his own shit.
Essentially ignores Sloosh's case in favour of interacting with other members of the thread until prodded...it's a bunch of little things that look like shit.

I am a terrible player for posting the above but it's gotta be said. I want to see Sloosh come back now and respond to MZ's 'defense.'


Here's my problem with this. From what I have read, sloosh's case is the best comprehensive case against MZ out there right now.

If you say Odin's is better, I completely disagree. I think Odin's just took everything from Sloosh's and reworded it.


So then nobody is going to mention what i wrote about mderg then earlier in regards to this? :/
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 30 2014 02:21 GMT
#929
On May 30 2014 11:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 30 2014 10:57 Holyflare wrote:
Robik hasn't done shit yet, he started throwing out reads and then said hasn't read before page 44 and briefly your filter. Why did he start with your filter when his whole reason for snap accepting was to lynch me?

Is that scummy?

I'm curious because I think Palmar essentially does the same thing.


I would think town robik would jump at the chance to read my filter and find scummy things. I think mafia robik would look elsewhere.

So you think a Palmar/Robik scumteam would both try and push me as scum in almost exactly the same way?

Personally when it comes to your group I think I'm gonna go the process of elim route---if I can find reason enough to find Shiao/Robik towny now then I'll be able to vote you with no qualms. Finding scummy things in someone's filter is easy to do from either alignment for any reason and I don't think your comment says much about Robik at all.


It's not about finding them and showing them. His ONLY reason for replacing was to get me lynched. His entrance post says "I'm town and I'm happy that there's a 50% chance hf is mafia!" then proceeds to completely ditch everything to do with the reason he joined (he knows I'm town) and randonly pick out your filter? Like wth? What towny does that?

Not to mention shiaopi replaced out instead of just afking more.

Eh I was wrong about the replacement thing last time and SHiaoPi is an honourable guy and would replace out as either alignment if he needed to. Not looking into that.

Now surely you can't possibly be telling me that you truly believe that Robik would come in blaring his intentions, being completely serious about them, and move on in a heartbeat? AND that that somehow makes him scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 30 2014 02:22 GMT
#930
On May 30 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Confirmation bias inc weeeooooweeeoooo
Sloosh's case on MZ READS like a bus.

You mentioned it yourself that it's 'hard not to agree' with what Sloosh wrote but that's because there's no substance there. MZ's filter is fluffy and as scum he would want to go first. Yes, and?

It's weak and leaves room for basically any real effort from MZ to shut it down on its own.

ANd then not even 45 min later after not posting in over a day he shows up and posts his own shit.
Essentially ignores Sloosh's case in favour of interacting with other members of the thread until prodded...it's a bunch of little things that look like shit.

I am a terrible player for posting the above but it's gotta be said. I want to see Sloosh come back now and respond to MZ's 'defense.'


Here's my problem with this. From what I have read, sloosh's case is the best comprehensive case against MZ out there right now.

If you say Odin's is better, I completely disagree. I think Odin's just took everything from Sloosh's and reworded it.


So then nobody is going to mention what i wrote about mderg then earlier in regards to this? :/

Your turn to link it for me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2014 02:22 GMT
#931
On May 30 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:18 Holyflare wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 30 2014 10:57 Holyflare wrote:
Robik hasn't done shit yet, he started throwing out reads and then said hasn't read before page 44 and briefly your filter. Why did he start with your filter when his whole reason for snap accepting was to lynch me?

Is that scummy?

I'm curious because I think Palmar essentially does the same thing.


I would think town robik would jump at the chance to read my filter and find scummy things. I think mafia robik would look elsewhere.

So you think a Palmar/Robik scumteam would both try and push me as scum in almost exactly the same way?

Personally when it comes to your group I think I'm gonna go the process of elim route---if I can find reason enough to find Shiao/Robik towny now then I'll be able to vote you with no qualms. Finding scummy things in someone's filter is easy to do from either alignment for any reason and I don't think your comment says much about Robik at all.


It's not about finding them and showing them. His ONLY reason for replacing was to get me lynched. His entrance post says "I'm town and I'm happy that there's a 50% chance hf is mafia!" then proceeds to completely ditch everything to do with the reason he joined (he knows I'm town) and randonly pick out your filter? Like wth? What towny does that?

Not to mention shiaopi replaced out instead of just afking more.

Eh I was wrong about the replacement thing last time and SHiaoPi is an honourable guy and would replace out as either alignment if he needed to. Not looking into that.

Now surely you can't possibly be telling me that you truly believe that Robik would come in blaring his intentions, being completely serious about them, and move on in a heartbeat? AND that that somehow makes him scum?


Have you ever played with robik? That's the first thinf he'd do!
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 30 2014 02:23 GMT
#932
@Bunnies what is the difference between RNG a mafia from each cell and just tunneling random people for reads?

The answer is NOTHING.

We start off with nothing tunnel on someone and get reads off it.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2014 02:23 GMT
#933
On May 30 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
But sloosh was unconvincing, his case on MZ seemed kinda lazy and it seemed like he was actively lurking.

What I liked however was his point about MZ townreading people simply of going into the spotlight with their mayor campaigns. I also thought that MZ was sheeping ritoky for an easy misslynch at that point.


These two things cannot possibly go together at all. The first quote states that sloosh's case on mz is lazy and he's a lurker but his case was on mz sheeping ritoky and getting an early mislynch because he wouldn't care and it was quite reflective of what was happening. So we establish that mderg does not like sloosh because of this case. Mderg also states that he LIKES odin for the exact same thing that he hates sloosh for. These reads do not go together one bit.


His Palmar scumread makes sense but I have a feeling that Palmar is actually town.


This quote has no substance on a read of palmar at all. If a scum read makes sense then that person is scummy. Palmar has posted literally nothing but for some reason mderg gets the suspicion that palmar is town, based on nothing. Mderg has refrained from really commenting on cell B ever apart from this palmar point which he has defended about 3 times in his short filter. No read on WoS, no read on poofter other than saying that poofters point on palmar wasn't really that scum indicative.

The time that someone points out his scum reads (ritoky) in the form of colouring in cells mderg only comments on the read on bunnies rather than the red bolded palmar who he doesn't think is scum at all.

Mderg is the scum in his cell.


Just to add to this, Palmar is in mdergs other game (detention mafia) and palmar is actually posting in that game whereas he is not in this game yet mderg sees no relevance in mentioning that, no bother to attribute this lack of posting to an alignment, just small defences and free town reads for nothing.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2014 02:24 GMT
#934
On May 30 2014 11:23 mtamburini wrote:
@Bunnies what is the difference between RNG a mafia from each cell and just tunneling random people for reads?

The answer is NOTHING.

We start off with nothing tunnel on someone and get reads off it.



Stop talking about rng and bunnies. You're wrong on both accounts. Have you read the game yet?
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 30 2014 02:27 GMT
#935
No I have not I'm heading into work now will be back in 10 hours. Just read bunnies filter and she keeps trying to bury me for the RNG mafia post I did.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 30 2014 02:28 GMT
#936
On May 30 2014 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Confirmation bias inc weeeooooweeeoooo
Sloosh's case on MZ READS like a bus.

You mentioned it yourself that it's 'hard not to agree' with what Sloosh wrote but that's because there's no substance there. MZ's filter is fluffy and as scum he would want to go first. Yes, and?

It's weak and leaves room for basically any real effort from MZ to shut it down on its own.

ANd then not even 45 min later after not posting in over a day he shows up and posts his own shit.
Essentially ignores Sloosh's case in favour of interacting with other members of the thread until prodded...it's a bunch of little things that look like shit.

I am a terrible player for posting the above but it's gotta be said. I want to see Sloosh come back now and respond to MZ's 'defense.'


Here's my problem with this. From what I have read, sloosh's case is the best comprehensive case against MZ out there right now.

If you say Odin's is better, I completely disagree. I think Odin's just took everything from Sloosh's and reworded it.

I actually haven't really looked into Odin's yet at all.
Despite popular belief, I don't think comprehensive cases on specific targets matter a hell of a lot. Look at how often Foolishness posts stuff like that (don't actually know if you've ever been exposed to him though...look at the old Shadow game if you want an example).

Cases say more about the people who wrote them then the people they're about, my fran'.

Are you saying that just because Sloosh wrote a comprehensive case (which it truly isn't but whatever I'll concede that point) that it makes him right? Or even further, that it makes him town?


I am saying, if sloosh's case is the best case, then that's some weak stuff; outside of the one point in it I think is good and needs addressing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2014 02:28 GMT
#937
On May 30 2014 11:27 mtamburini wrote:
No I have not I'm heading into work now will be back in 10 hours. Just read bunnies filter and she keeps trying to bury me for the RNG mafia post I did.


Because it's useless and you're still talking about it rather than everything else in the game abd especially the lynch that's happening today.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 30 2014 02:29 GMT
#938
Ritoky, tried to read Odin's later filter and specifically his defensive stuff re: MZ...couldn't get through it. Maybe if he comes back and summarizes in a coherent fashion or something? Either way I'm fine with what I have on that cell at the moment, but you're welcome to comment on what I said in response to your comment.

On May 30 2014 11:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
On May 30 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
But sloosh was unconvincing, his case on MZ seemed kinda lazy and it seemed like he was actively lurking.

What I liked however was his point about MZ townreading people simply of going into the spotlight with their mayor campaigns. I also thought that MZ was sheeping ritoky for an easy misslynch at that point.


These two things cannot possibly go together at all. The first quote states that sloosh's case on mz is lazy and he's a lurker but his case was on mz sheeping ritoky and getting an early mislynch because he wouldn't care and it was quite reflective of what was happening. So we establish that mderg does not like sloosh because of this case. Mderg also states that he LIKES odin for the exact same thing that he hates sloosh for. These reads do not go together one bit.


His Palmar scumread makes sense but I have a feeling that Palmar is actually town.


This quote has no substance on a read of palmar at all. If a scum read makes sense then that person is scummy. Palmar has posted literally nothing but for some reason mderg gets the suspicion that palmar is town, based on nothing. Mderg has refrained from really commenting on cell B ever apart from this palmar point which he has defended about 3 times in his short filter. No read on WoS, no read on poofter other than saying that poofters point on palmar wasn't really that scum indicative.

The time that someone points out his scum reads (ritoky) in the form of colouring in cells mderg only comments on the read on bunnies rather than the red bolded palmar who he doesn't think is scum at all.

Mderg is the scum in his cell.


Just to add to this, Palmar is in mdergs other game (detention mafia) and palmar is actually posting in that game whereas he is not in this game yet mderg sees no relevance in mentioning that, no bother to attribute this lack of posting to an alignment, just small defences and free town reads for nothing.


Ehhhhh I don't like making reads this way. People have all sorts of reasons for this kind of thing and I very much believe in sticking to non-ongoing-type stuff. I'm still fine with mderg as scum purely by PoE right now (not that it's particularly relevant right now anyway---see mderg/bunnies' useless fight) because I haven't bothered to read much of that group's filters and don't really feel like it atm.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 30 2014 02:30 GMT
#939
On May 30 2014 11:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Confirmation bias inc weeeooooweeeoooo
Sloosh's case on MZ READS like a bus.

You mentioned it yourself that it's 'hard not to agree' with what Sloosh wrote but that's because there's no substance there. MZ's filter is fluffy and as scum he would want to go first. Yes, and?

It's weak and leaves room for basically any real effort from MZ to shut it down on its own.

ANd then not even 45 min later after not posting in over a day he shows up and posts his own shit.
Essentially ignores Sloosh's case in favour of interacting with other members of the thread until prodded...it's a bunch of little things that look like shit.

I am a terrible player for posting the above but it's gotta be said. I want to see Sloosh come back now and respond to MZ's 'defense.'


Here's my problem with this. From what I have read, sloosh's case is the best comprehensive case against MZ out there right now.

If you say Odin's is better, I completely disagree. I think Odin's just took everything from Sloosh's and reworded it.

I actually haven't really looked into Odin's yet at all.
Despite popular belief, I don't think comprehensive cases on specific targets matter a hell of a lot. Look at how often Foolishness posts stuff like that (don't actually know if you've ever been exposed to him though...look at the old Shadow game if you want an example).

Cases say more about the people who wrote them then the people they're about, my fran'.

Are you saying that just because Sloosh wrote a comprehensive case (which it truly isn't but whatever I'll concede that point) that it makes him right? Or even further, that it makes him town?


I am saying, if sloosh's case is the best case, then that's some weak stuff; outside of the one point in it I think is good and needs addressing.

Exactly, but it doesn't make MZ any less scummy. What is the one point that needs addressing?
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On May 30 2014 11:28 ritoky wrote:
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On May 30 2014 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Confirmation bias inc weeeooooweeeoooo
Sloosh's case on MZ READS like a bus.

You mentioned it yourself that it's 'hard not to agree' with what Sloosh wrote but that's because there's no substance there. MZ's filter is fluffy and as scum he would want to go first. Yes, and?

It's weak and leaves room for basically any real effort from MZ to shut it down on its own.

ANd then not even 45 min later after not posting in over a day he shows up and posts his own shit.
Essentially ignores Sloosh's case in favour of interacting with other members of the thread until prodded...it's a bunch of little things that look like shit.

I am a terrible player for posting the above but it's gotta be said. I want to see Sloosh come back now and respond to MZ's 'defense.'


Here's my problem with this. From what I have read, sloosh's case is the best comprehensive case against MZ out there right now.

If you say Odin's is better, I completely disagree. I think Odin's just took everything from Sloosh's and reworded it.

I actually haven't really looked into Odin's yet at all.
Despite popular belief, I don't think comprehensive cases on specific targets matter a hell of a lot. Look at how often Foolishness posts stuff like that (don't actually know if you've ever been exposed to him though...look at the old Shadow game if you want an example).

Cases say more about the people who wrote them then the people they're about, my fran'.

Are you saying that just because Sloosh wrote a comprehensive case (which it truly isn't but whatever I'll concede that point) that it makes him right? Or even further, that it makes him town?


I am saying, if sloosh's case is the best case, then that's some weak stuff; outside of the one point in it I think is good and needs addressing.


Why do you maintain that you would still be voting odin over mz despite never giving any reason that odin could potentially be scum? You even qualify your scum read with reasons why you don't think he is scum. What has he done that's scummy compared to the only thing you're town reading mz off of and that's buddying you?
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