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Counting of votes:
OdinOfPergo (0): Palmar
ritoky (2): mderg, Palmar
Meapak_Ziphh (7): WaveofShadow, slOosh, layabout, OdinOfPergo, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, batsnacks
Not voting (6): mtamburini, ShiaoPi, Meapak_Ziphh, Tehpoofter, ritoky, 27ninjabunnies
Currently, Meapak_Ziphh is set to be lynched.
You have until Friday, May 30 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote.
Voting is mandatory!
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: WaveofShadow voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: slOosh voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: layabout voted meapak ziph (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: OdinOfPergo voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: mderg voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted Meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: Holyflare voted meapak z (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: batsnacks voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post)
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So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx
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On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx
For the record, I have 0 other reason to believe he's town.
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Tbh ive seen mz do this before as town and it gives me the jeebees
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On May 31 2014 03:58 layabout wrote:
Tbh ive seen mz do this before as town and it gives me the jeebees
who is your preferred lynch and why? I think I'm leaning Odin
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On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx
Two people in Cell D are voting MZ. Does that scare the shit out of you too?
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So now odin:
I like his initial post into the thread. Even though many people were seeing ritoky as town over mz, odin calls ritoky out for the following:
Then he also give reads for other cells, not just his own. This seems like a more townie thing to do,
+ Show Spoiler +On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
I don't really like Rit's push for mayor. The whole way he words things seems flashy and contrived.
I have to really look at the motivation for it but I like what Bat said tbh.
If cell A goes first, scum get a easy ride on day1. Like everyone already knows I'm the lynch target in cell A.
Now assuming Rit is not scum, why would he push so hard for his own cell to go first when one of his members hasn't even posted? That's a big bet to take if your town. You're literally basing your first lynch on a coinflip.
So it's pretty obvious Palmar is the scum in B.
Holyflare is kind of making me worry too.
-Push for mayor super weird
-has a ton of filler post
-has a few prodding post with not so much follow up
Then again I'm going to just admit I have a hard time reading HF. So while I find HF to look odd, he does do this sort of thing all the time as both town/scum. But I don't think C is good group to go today anyway. So we'll have more time to see how it develops.
Between mderg/layabout I'm having a hard time.
Layabout is living up to his name. A few short filler post and he's gone.
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order
You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural.
he seems to call out mderg for inconsistencies he found in mdergs posting, which I also find more townie.
Also, odin sticks for hhis reasoning to not vote for ritoky, rather than going for the popular consensus of most of the town.
The odin drunk progression confuses the hell out of me, especially since no one was voting him, just placing suspicion on him. i felt he got way super defensive for absolutely nothing, and i think is actually more mafia indicative now that i read more through it than townie.
also, odin's following post is actually pretty good. I think he defends himself pretty well in the boldedd part, and the fact that mz brings up the red text as scummy, seems like a last chance type thing to have something against odin
On May 29 2014 22:21 OdinOfPergo wrote:Damnit this is what I get for not previewing things I type. Cleaned up for ease of reading. Added a few [/.b] tags I missed. Also yes, absolutely do open the spoiler tags. Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 22:12 OdinOfPergo wrote:Ok, so I'm just going to address this first since it's the most recent. On May 29 2014 16:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 29 2014 12:27 ritoky wrote:
Gonna leave this question here for when MZ and Odin come on:
@MZ, If the mod suddenly banned freedom and murrica from this thread, then what would you base your read on myself and Odin on?
@Odin, You talked about me, could you please give me some similar depth on MZ? I was initially all over you for the lulz mostly, I thought your intro post was good and not something scum would do but I really had no idea how things would pan out. Since then my initial judgement has been reaffirmed, I'd be townreading you right now even without the America stuff. Confirming someone as town like 1 hour into the game for lulz? I don't even really think it was for the lulz. Iirc you were the one who posted a little while after this saying it was the complete "anti" something or other of Rit's scum play. How in your mind is anyone else suppose to se that as a "lulz" read?Right now I'm actually baffled by the people who think Odin is town. He came in, made four posts and peaced. People are jacking off to how "protown" they were but honestly that's more just people repeating stuff that HF said. Because there are so few, let's take a quick look at these posts, since the way people are describing them I think some have forgotten what he actually said: + Show Spoiler +On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
I don't really like Rit's push for mayor. The whole way he words things seems flashy and contrived.
I have to really look at the motivation for it but I like what Bat said tbh.
If cell A goes first, scum get a easy ride on day1. Like everyone already knows I'm the lynch target in cell A.
Now assuming Rit is not scum, why would he push so hard for his own cell to go first when one of his members hasn't even posted? That's a big bet to take if your town. You're literally basing your first lynch on a coinflip.
So it's pretty obvious Palmar is the scum in B.
Holyflare is kind of making me worry too.
-Push for mayor super weird
-has a ton of filler post
-has a few prodding post with not so much follow up
Then again I'm going to just admit I have a hard time reading HF. So while I find HF to look odd, he does do this sort of thing all the time as both town/scum. But I don't think C is good group to go today anyway. So we'll have more time to see how it develops.
Between mderg/layabout I'm having a hard time.
Layabout is living up to his name. A few short filler post and he's gone.
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order
You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural. Firstly, his criticism of ritoky rings very hollow. He calls him out for wanting his cell to go first which is odd because when ritoky ran for mayor, there was no indication of who was going to be active or inactive is impossible to tell. This means ritoky's mayor run can't have been a scum plot from the start. So because it's early game, there is no possible way mafia would run for mayor? What does who's going to be lurky and what not even matter for that tbh? Like, by the time a mayor gains traction and OBVIOUSLY by the time he is elected, they will have a pretty good idea. So why exactly can Rit's mayor push in no way be by possible mafia? Does that also make HF 100% confirmed town to you too now? This game must be easy for a player of your caliber. So many confirmed people in your mind, it makes me wonder if you already knew alignments or something. That's not the only issue I have with this post. The one person who Odin actually calls out is the beleaguered Palmar who basically everyone wants to lynch at this point. That's just a very weak read and Palmar is probably a pretty good bus target right now for scum under fire to gain some cred off of. My thoughts on Palmar at the time (still to date) are not plainly obvious..
Let me re-iterate for you.
-Palmar claims anti town.
-?
I don't even understand how you are calling my read "weak"
If so why/how are you justifying it for literally everyone else?Odin finishes this post by doing something I personally hate which is telling everyone about something someone did and then not drawing any concrete conclusions. He starts with HF and concludes that "HF does this sort of thing all the time as both town/scum." Fantastic, why did we need to know that? HF is in no immediate danger of dying so why the need to inform the thread about your confusion, it's nothing more than a soft defense of HF without actually coming out and saying it. Well obviously not all of us agree that because HF first post like half an hour into the game was a mayor push makes him confirmed town. Please guide us. And yes, I was defending HF if that wasn't obvious. I didn't have a strong read on him at the time and it's funny that you are trying to throw dirt on me over and over again here for not knowing knowing peoples alignments.He then comments that layabout hasn't done anything, once again a very easy thing to say. Read belowLastly, he bring up mderg's progression on rit for mayor and calls in "unnatural." Ironically enough, the manner in which he presents the progression is honestly pretty logical to me and this just seems like an attempt to throw dirt on mderg without actually calling him scummy. Ok your last two points are actually one point. I mentioned before I was confused between mderg/Laya.
So of course I'm going to explain why I think each of them are questionable.
You are saying that you would of preferred I had just popped into thread and been like, "meh no clue" with 0 explanation? Furthermore, you completely ignore the convo me and mderg had at that time.
Why do you think I did that? I asked him about his thought process because his didn't make sense to me.
He did give it to me, and if it wasn't clear from my response to his response, the post of mine you later quote where I am replying to him obviously was me more trying to feel out mderg.On May 29 2014 04:01 OdinOfPergo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 03:57 mderg wrote:On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order
You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural. I skimmed at first and didn´t like his posts. I later realized that I missed well elaborated posts while skimming. But I still didn´t agree with the cell order. So I wanted him to change the cell order to fit the more recent ongoings while elaborating similarly to before. What about Rit's post that you missed made you change your mind? Because to be honest I don't like most of his 'murica this and that filler. It's just him insta buddying anyone that happens to play along. What's the easiest way to lead an agenda? Make friends. His post feel rather forced to me. Elaborate yes, but not in a way that gives me good vibes. I HATE posts like this. Rit seems to be making friends, does that make him scum? Rit's posting feels forced, does that make him scum? It's elaborate and gives you bad vibes, does that make him scum? Odin presents a lot of things rit is doing and neither gives examples of why he feels that way or makes a solid conclusion. Like, c'mon man, you KNOW that either rit or I have to be scum. For some reason it's incredibly hard for odin to form a solid read (other than Palmar lol). When I started off the game I wanted to solve my own cell first because I had a whopping 50% chance of doing that. HF mentioned that one of the things he liked about odin was that he was reading the whole game. That's great, but at this point he can't even give a solid read on his own cell which honestly just screams scum who's not certain which cell member he'll have a better chance to misslynch.
If I don't understand something (Yes, believe it or not this happens pretty often..) I ask questions about it.
I don't mind if you don't like those questions. But I don't understand how you are scum reading me for trying to come to solid conclusions.+ Show Spoiler +On May 29 2014 04:28 OdinOfPergo wrote:Ok so I'm just going to give you my analysis on that post. I'll post my thoughts in red.. Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 04:08 mderg wrote:On May 29 2014 04:01 OdinOfPergo wrote:On May 29 2014 03:57 mderg wrote:On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order
You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural. I skimmed at first and didn´t like his posts. I later realized that I missed well elaborated posts while skimming. But I still didn´t agree with the cell order. So I wanted him to change the cell order to fit the more recent ongoings while elaborating similarly to before. What about Rit's post that you missed made you change your mind? Because to be honest I don't like most of his 'murica this and that filler. It's just him insta buddying anyone that happens to play along. What's the easiest way to lead an agenda? Make friends. His post feel rather forced to me. Elaborate yes, but not in a way that gives me good vibes. i basically didn´t attribute this post to his play. In this everything is based on reasoning and is elaborated. Elaborating on the cell order and giving proper reasons is exactly what I expect from the mayor. So I changed my mind from definitely not voting him to thinking about voting him. On May 28 2014 09:41 ritoky wrote:On May 28 2014 09:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Mayor-Elect Ritoky could you dazzle me with some scum reads? In all seriousness, I am trying to think about this game slightly different than a normal mafia game. I am trying to think about it in terms of the cells and getting strong reads on players in the cells. Outside of the fact that freedom and murrica declare that Cell A should go first, I know I am town and I think you have posted and done enough in the thread for me to get a strong read on you. Thrawn has yet to post, so I can't speak with certainty, but I think there is a wealth of information in the thread about Cell A for people to make informed reads on two of us already. The town doesn't have a "wealth" of information. In fact, the only information that the town will have, if this goes through, is the scum in Cell A will be off in the obs qt laughing when I flip green. Like Rit's whole push for this seems odd. His insta town read on MZ for playing along with Freedom is a convenient way to make sure this goes along nicely.The next Cells I would consider after A are C or B. Probably C before B. In regards to Cell C, I think there is something off about ShiaoPi's post where he was critical of those who were joking. I didn't really find that it added much to the game beyond complaining about the state of the game. To me his complaints are anti-freedom. If he doesn't like the state of the game, why didn't he push hard for it to change to a more serious tone instead of just pointing it out and walking away? HF, unfortunately, has done more to push a town than Shiao but I also find his avoidance of certain questions and topics (such as my campaign against him) to be questionable. Batsnacks hasn't posted. We will see about him, but I think that after Cell A which will be very clear cut, how people vote in regards to cell C will be highly informative. Currently, I am about that Shiao kill in C (although I sways toward HF the more anti-freedom he spews). Why put C before B? In the previous sentence you admit to not being sure about someone? Like you do realize Cell C is probably the hardest group to make a read on? Cell B makes wayyyy more sense. I'm not entirely sure on the timeline for this post but Palmar has been playing anti-town since the beginning of the game. So this is a obvious choice anyway. So why put Cell C, with it's harder to read players, super early? To snag ez mislynches. People in this group won't have be being strongly read one way or the other more than likely. You're chances are better at landing a mislynch into this pool if you do it early.Cell B would probably be next, although I could be convinced that it should go before C. I think poofter has pitted himself against Palmar in a very strong way, and I think WoS's response to that direction opposition of two people in his cell will be very alignment indicative for him. I like poofter currently, as he is in my murrica huddle. I like his case as a baseline for starting an extensive inquiry into Palmar. I think he also needs to bit of time to really flesh it out with gameplay support or watch it fall through. Which is why I would have him go 3rd. Currently, I am about that Palmar kill in B. It's not that Poofter has pitted himself anywhere. Palmar literally claimed to be anti-town. More 'Murica buddying, like good for you right? If you're lucky you'll befriend enough of the town that you'll even get a town read after you get a mislynch day1. He even admits he's got a stronger read Cell B than C. Yet in his previous paragraph he wants to put C first, why?The last two would be probably E then D as of right now. Simply because I think we have the least information about those two at the moment and I can't say I have particularly strong feelings about any of the people outside of bunnies in those groups. I could be convinced to push D up after group A into the 2nd spot if someone convinces me of that sick tambo read, cuz his post was strange. I think it was him trying to make a joke about golden sun, but it fell flat and was awk. The last groups are simply at the back of the line becuase he "doesn't have info". Like why the hell is Cell A at the very front of his list then? Thrawn hadn't posted yet. How much less info could you have? Oh right, cuz MZ his Freedom loving cuddlebuddy. So ye, in conclusion.. What exactly was suppose to make me feel better in that post? It's fishy, and there is an obvious agenda in it. Ok this post is gonna be rough, bear with me. I'm first gonna talk about why the red on the innermost quote is wrong. His first read paragraph reads like a scum scared to get lynched. He freakin references the scum team laughing at him dying which is just so alarmist as to be comical. He once again calls rit's play "odd." Like what the fuck does that even mean? Is that scummy? We don't know because odin doesn't take a stand Odd-differing in nature from what is ordinary, usual, or expected: an odd choice.
Rit's post felt weird to me. They didn't sit right. I still don't necessarily agree with them, but I'm starting to come around to maby understanding his logic behind them.
Let me give you an example of something that I find odd.
You, throwing dirt at me over and over and over again for trying to come to conclusions instead of already having them.
I'm sorry, not everyone get's to be scum MZ. Some of us actually have to try to play the game to discern alignments of other players. Next red paragraph: His whole fault with rit's plan is that he thinks it opens the opportunity for a mislynch, also he calls our Palmar, his only real read, again. Next red paragraph: here's he's just trying to create a problem, ritkoy wants to kill Palmar just as much as odin supposedly does, however he feels the need to once again say that something is off because rit won't put B in front of C, DESPITE the fact that rit literally says in his post that he'd be willing to change the order. This smacks of willful missreading on the part of odin. Your argument against me is:
-Odin thinks it's funny that Rit doesn't want to put his second highest scum read at the time to the rope before his null reads.
-Rit did say that. but by the time I had replied to this, Rit had made a pretty strong suggestion that he was going to put Cell C in front of B. So your point is out-dated and trying intent fully to misrepresent what I said.Last red paragraph: he's butthurt everyone wants A to go first because nobody wants to deal with a group where no one has posted. But odin once again construes this as bad because clearly rit is plotting with me Yes one of you is conspiring with the other. That much I know. Who's pocket is in whoms, I wasn't sure about.
But my catch up today leads me to lean towards Rit's actions being genuinely gung hoe town, you as scum being estatic to have such a useful face man, and just sheeping everything he says.In conclusion, odin says the post is "fishy" and "has an obvious agenda." Really? You just fucking analyzed this dude in red text and you can't take a strong position on it? The only agenda I saw reading this post was the one where odin portrayed ritoky as scummy for putting D and E last when that's what literally everyone in the thread wanted. I really feel like people either only red the read text or didn't read the post at all because there is nothing about this post that "looks good" or "looks town." This feels like a contrived mess from a scum who's been caught and isn't sure which misslynch will be his saving grace. Odin has been tunnel city on ritoky and still can't even call him scum. I used red text last time because I thought it would be easier to read. Here I used bolded this time, better? So freaking what? Maby I'll use yellow next time around. Who knows! And the fact you say I didn't come to a conclusion from it is just a blatant lie. If it was not obvious from my analysis on what my thoughts about Rit were at the time then.. I dunno, sorry I guess for not stating in italicized capital bold letters that I thought Rit was the probable scum in my group?
Even more so that said analysis wasn't even directed at Rit and more in response to mderg while I tried to understand his thought process?On May 29 2014 04:59 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Well I have to work tonight.
So I won't be around much longer.
I don't want Rit for mayor. Reasons I already said.
##Vote:batsnacks
His last chance to produce an actual read and the best he can do is say he doesn't want rit for mayor and votes batsnacks. This vote is odd as a townie because batsnacks doesn't want B to go first which was odin's whole problem with ritoky's plan, however as a scum it makes sense because it puts C first so Odin won't be under fire right away. I voted the only mayor wagon that was not Rit because I was fairly concerned with Rit at the time.
Excuse me for trying to prevent him from dictating what I saw, and still see as a easy mis-lynch opportunity.
The only thorn in your side on this plan is, I replaced into it. I highly encourage everyone to actually read odin's filter (it's short I promise and it's all in this post in case you forget) because I feel like at the moment there are people parroting what others have said regrading odin's towniness.
So i think you can tell where i am leaning on Odin atm.
Also, MZ, im not seeing what you are talking about his complete 180 from ritoky to you. If you can point it out a bit better, because im not seeing it. It seems like a natural progression from being a bit iffy on ritoky, to thinking you are scum, and giving reasonings for it.
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I'm gonna be gone until after the lynch. I'm putting my vote on odin because that's who I think is scum.
##Vote: OdinOfPergo
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On May 31 2014 04:04 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx Two people in Cell D are voting meapak. Does that scare the shit out of you too?
I am town.
I KNOW one of you two is mafia.
I would definitely be weirded the fuck out if all 3 of Cell D were voting meapak.
But there's enough to be weirded out by knowing that at least one mafia is pushing for a lynch of meapak
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i have like 8 pages to catch up on
##Vote: Odinofpergo
placeholder until I read through it all
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On May 31 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:04 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx Two people in Cell D are voting meapak. Does that scare the shit out of you too? I am town. I KNOW one of you two is mafia. I would definitely be weirded the fuck out if all 3 of Cell D were voting meapak. But there's enough to be weirded out by knowing that at least one mafia is pushing for a lynch of meapak
Is there any way that there could be a possibility of bussing, or that ritoky is mafia?
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Counting of votes:
OdinOfPergo (3): Palmar, Meapak_Ziphh, IAmRobik, ritoky
ritoky (2): mderg, Palmar
Meapak_Ziphh (7): WaveofShadow, slOosh, layabout, OdinOfPergo, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, batsnacks
Not voting (3): mtamburini, Tehpoofter, 27ninjabunnies
Currently, Meapak_Ziphh is set to be lynched.
You have until Friday, May 30 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote.
Voting is mandatory!
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: WaveofShadow voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: slOosh voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: layabout voted meapak ziph (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: OdinOfPergo voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: mderg voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted Meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: Holyflare voted meapak z (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: batsnacks voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: Meapak_Ziphh voted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: IAmRobik voted odinofprego (OdinOfPergo) ( post) VOTE: ritoky voted Odinofpergo (OdinOfPergo) ( post)
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On May 31 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:04 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx Two people in Cell D are voting meapak. Does that scare the shit out of you too? I am town. I KNOW one of you two is mafia. I would definitely be weirded the fuck out if all 3 of Cell D were voting meapak. But there's enough to be weirded out by knowing that at least one mafia is pushing for a lynch of meapak
Everyone is town. You keep saying you're town like it means something. It doesn't mean anything.
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On May 31 2014 04:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 04:04 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx Two people in Cell D are voting meapak. Does that scare the shit out of you too? I am town. I KNOW one of you two is mafia. I would definitely be weirded the fuck out if all 3 of Cell D were voting meapak. But there's enough to be weirded out by knowing that at least one mafia is pushing for a lynch of meapak Is there any way that there could be a possibility of bussing, or that ritoky is mafia?
I don't think Ritoki is the type of player who would sack the fuck up and push to be mayor if he was scum.
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On May 31 2014 04:19 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 04:04 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx Two people in Cell D are voting meapak. Does that scare the shit out of you too? I am town. I KNOW one of you two is mafia. I would definitely be weirded the fuck out if all 3 of Cell D were voting meapak. But there's enough to be weirded out by knowing that at least one mafia is pushing for a lynch of meapak Everyone is town. You keep saying you're town like it means something. It doesn't mean anything.
That's not true. There are only 10 of us. We need to stick together.
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On May 31 2014 04:21 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:19 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 04:04 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx Two people in Cell D are voting meapak. Does that scare the shit out of you too? I am town. I KNOW one of you two is mafia. I would definitely be weirded the fuck out if all 3 of Cell D were voting meapak. But there's enough to be weirded out by knowing that at least one mafia is pushing for a lynch of meapak Everyone is town. You keep saying you're town like it means something. It doesn't mean anything. That's not true. There are only 10 of us. We need to stick together.
Nice checkmate. I guess I walk away with my head down now.
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Considering votes right now
If ritoky is mafia, 0 people in their cell are right.
If MZ is mafia, 1 person in their cell is right.
If Odin is mafia, 2 people in their cell are right.
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Now on to ritoky.
Him running for mayor really worked out for him if he is scum here. Many people insta viewed him as town for it, and the fact he puut cell A first (even though i admit i was for it at one point) works in his favor as he thinks he can easily push an easy ml on odin or MZ (sense MZ was being read mafia for the buddying)
Much like MZ, i find the day 1 freedom thing a bit trolly. Like it was all fun games, but to carry it on into today where lynches happen is a bit much.
I like his reasoning for cell order here, though i was opposed to cell d and e going last, because they had very little information. Im not sure why you would want to put the game win in the hands of the two cells with least information. Unless you were sure you can win within the first 3 cells.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 28 2014 09:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 09:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Mayor-Elect Ritoky could you dazzle me with some scum reads? In all seriousness, I am trying to think about this game slightly different than a normal mafia game. I am trying to think about it in terms of the cells and getting strong reads on players in the cells. Outside of the fact that freedom and murrica declare that Cell A should go first, I know I am town and I think you have posted and done enough in the thread for me to get a strong read on you. Thrawn has yet to post, so I can't speak with certainty, but I think there is a wealth of information in the thread about Cell A for people to make informed reads on two of us already. The next Cells I would consider after A are C or B. Probably C before B. In regards to Cell C, I think there is something off about ShiaoPi's post where he was critical of those who were joking. I didn't really find that it added much to the game beyond complaining about the state of the game. To me his complaints are anti-freedom. If he doesn't like the state of the game, why didn't he push hard for it to change to a more serious tone instead of just pointing it out and walking away? HF, unfortunately, has done more to push a town than Shiao but I also find his avoidance of certain questions and topics (such as my campaign against him) to be questionable. Batsnacks hasn't posted. We will see about him, but I think that after Cell A which will be very clear cut, how people vote in regards to cell C will be highly informative. Currently, I am about that Shiao kill in C (although I sways toward HF the more anti-freedom he spews). Cell B would probably be next, although I could be convinced that it should go before C. I think poofter has pitted himself against Palmar in a very strong way, and I think WoS's response to that direction opposition of two people in his cell will be very alignment indicative for him. I like poofter currently, as he is in my murrica huddle. I like his case as a baseline for starting an extensive inquiry into Palmar. I think he also needs to bit of time to really flesh it out with gameplay support or watch it fall through. Which is why I would have him go 3rd. Currently, I am about that Palmar kill in B. The last two would be probably E then D as of right now. Simply because I think we have the least information about those two at the moment and I can't say I have particularly strong feelings about any of the people outside of bunnies in those groups. I could be convinced to push D up after group A into the 2nd spot if someone convinces me of that sick tambo read, cuz his post was strange. I think it was him trying to make a joke about golden sun, but it fell flat and was awk.
The one thing that ritoky has going for him in cell order is that he atleast got the consensus from town about which order they wanted. As mafia, he probably could have been swayed by fellow partners in qt or otherwise to change his order, but he stuck with his guns, which i like.
I think with his read on me he was just grasping st reasons to put mderg as more town than i, especially for my cell order. Im still not sure how having my group go third is anyway indicative of me being mafia, and he never answered my questioning to him on that regard.
I also like this post from ritoky. Instead of being all, yes, lets lynch odin, its obviously him, he questions his actual read on MZ.
On May 29 2014 12:17 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 12:09 batsnacks wrote:On May 29 2014 12:00 Holyflare wrote:
Yehhh bumsnacks let's lynch shiaopi! I've got a better idea lets cross that bridge when we come to it, which won't even be very long now. How about this if the deadline was now who would you vote in group A? This is an open question anyone can answer it. I'd vote MZ because he buddied with ritoky too fast, because I want to believe a mafia member wasn't elected as mayor over me, and because I liked Odin's first post more than any of MZ's that I can remember. That's what I've got and I think it is something. I will answer this, then I saw a question from poofter too a ways back that I will talk about after. If the deadline was right now, I would lynch Odin. Now that's not to take away from him at all. I basically had such a strong town read when MZ buddied up to me that I thought thrawn/Odin would just post in the thread, I would say "lulz" and default lynch him. But, Odin's posts were so good and I am beginning to agree with some other people after thinking about it that his choice to attack me is the harder road to take and mafia would likely take the easier road of not going at the guy being elected mayor. However, as of now I think his sample size is too small for those brief moments of town feels to overrule the surge of early town feels I got from MZ. Basically I am not completely closed to either of them being mafia, as opposed to 12 hrs ago when I thought it was an open and shut case.
Ritoky also sorta changed his view on odin, and says that sloosh's case on mZ is pretty solid, though he does state that odins case on MZ seems like odin took the case and just reworded it.
But then ritoky comes into the thread voting odin today, before reading the pages he has missed. Why would town do that?
Also, if odin reworded slooshs case (which i need to look at myself)
If that's true, maybe odin/sloosh partners?
But from my looking through filters, i thin MZ is the. Scum in this cell. I have a pretty good town read on odin and ritoky.
I do not like how layabout is voting mz, though he might be actually in a townset mind here, though he is iffy and willing to switch his vote.
I also dont like mdergs vote on ritoky.
I hope im not wrong here, but got to go with my gut.
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
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On May 31 2014 04:32 batsnacks wrote:
Considering votes right now
If ritoky is mafia, 0 people in their cell are right.
If MZ is mafia, 1 person in their cell is right.
If Odin is mafia, 2 people in their cell are right.
Please enlighten me what you wish to garner from this?
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