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On May 07 2014 01:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 01:17 Koshi wrote: HF how are.your Vivax and Oats 100% scumreads doing? Oats not so much anymore, vivax pretty stronk. He complains that he didn't want to argue with me to stop discussion being stifled yet ignored everything i was doing to discuss his point. He returns to the thread with the same points previously but - the oats part which me and oats already disproved and when discussion starts he leaves again. He's talking at us rather than with us.
And how does all of this make me scum? I bring my points across, you can elaborate on them or not and if you don't think they are true then you don't have to try and convince me so hard of your own point of view.
I have trouble understanding what you're trying to achieve with all your actions. You want me to see Cava's post as townie, I don't think I have to. You want me to acknowledge Oats is a liar and that makes me scum. I use other ways of reading him.
And when I don't agree with you and don't want to discuss that with you cause I don't enjoy that, then it makes me scum?
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On May 07 2014 02:04 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 01:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 07 2014 01:17 Koshi wrote: HF how are.your Vivax and Oats 100% scumreads doing? Oats not so much anymore, vivax pretty stronk. He complains that he didn't want to argue with me to stop discussion being stifled yet ignored everything i was doing to discuss his point. He returns to the thread with the same points previously but - the oats part which me and oats already disproved and when discussion starts he leaves again. He's talking at us rather than with us. And how does all of this make me scum? I bring my points across, you can elaborate on them or not and if you don't think they are true then you don't have to try and convince me so hard of your own point of view. I have trouble understanding what you're trying to achieve with all your actions. You want me to see Cava's post as townie, I don't think I have to. You want me to acknowledge Oats is a liar and that makes me scum. I use other ways of reading him. And when I don't agree with you and don't want to discuss that with you cause I don't enjoy that, then it makes me scum?
Are you kidding? The scummyness is you're portraying ME negatively pre-emptively before an event even happened. "i didn't want to discuss cav's post to stop an argument", you haven't discussed ANYTHING. You sit back post random sidenotes about a read that hadn't properly evolved. You post a case on oats being town and when disproved you decided not to comment on any of it, take no part in the game, ignore everything i write to then return and tell us about cavalinho all over again. You've even completely dropped any mention of oats so i have to assume you actually AGREED with my points on him.
You don't listen to any points about anything, there's no reason to believe you even care, you have no substance in your posts. "cav is more assertive as town" proves nothing says nothing, especially when he was assertive in that post and without proof of what you mean nobody has any idea if it's true or not . You don't question anyone, you don't even consider that you might have misread a post because you weren't there at the time whereas the people that were there say the post has a different tone. You are spreading doubt amongst people that are actually playing the game and you are lurking.
Now tell me again how that's not scummy?
Agenda 101.
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Can you guys drop this, vivax is super towny. If he's scum he deserves to win. I can't read him as scum.
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On May 07 2014 02:21 Steveling wrote: Can you guys drop this, vivax is super towny. If he's scum he deserves to win. I can't read him as scum.
"super towny" "i can't read him as scum"
What a hero. Nobody deserves to win if they are scum. Ever. Drop that line of thinking immediately. I've already asked you to explain why you think he is town but you haven't done it.
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On May 07 2014 01:19 Holyflare wrote: Not reading properly is the same as not reading the thread. Arguably not reading properly is far worse because you start making up things you think to be true because you have a warped version compared to everyone else and then we reach this impass.
If you can't convince someone to be lynched through normal means, resorting to lying is "using any means possible" that's not really a far stretch. Which is why it's more odd that you compare lying to using bad meta instead because the 2 are not equivalent at all. Unless you are implying they are. It´s not the same, one is intentional while the other isn´t.
I agree with you that lying was uncalled for in that situation but imo "using any means possible" is exaggerated.
On May 07 2014 02:21 Steveling wrote: Can you guys drop this, vivax is super towny. If he's scum he deserves to win. I can't read him as scum. Why is he towny? I agree with holy´s reasoning on Vivax. To me his play seems scummy. The Cav case seems baseless and I don´t like the reasoning behind it.
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I said multiple times that I find his behavior perfectly normal.
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On May 07 2014 02:27 Steveling wrote: I said multiple times that I find his behavior perfectly normal.
That's good to know but we don't so point out specifically with quotes which parts are super towny.
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I refuse to do that since there are players yet to say anything. Don't get tunnel vision on him.
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We should just wait till Poofter and thrawn say stuff.
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On May 07 2014 02:40 Steveling wrote: I refuse to do that since there are players yet to say anything. Don't get tunnel vision on him.
I'm not at all but this post is beyond ridiculous to make. Why do you refuse yet state you don't want me to tunnel vision on him??? I think he is scum and have laid out why. You think he is supppeerrr town, super town enough for you to try and stop us discussing him but REFUSE to post reasons why you think he is town???????
What the fuck man.
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The easiest way to find scum is to narrow down the pool in which to search by finding townies. Why aren't you helping with that?
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Holyflare makes me laugh.
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On May 07 2014 02:53 Koshi wrote: Holyflare makes me laugh. ??
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Koshi why you being useless all game? You have a lot of posts but are still in the same category as thrawn and poofter
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On May 07 2014 02:56 Holyflare wrote: Koshi why you being useless all game? You have a lot of posts but are still in the same category as thrawn and poofter What category is that?
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ok. i will start playing in roughly 3 hours. (have errands to run and then I will need to read the thread)
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On May 07 2014 03:56 thrawn2112 wrote: ok. i will start playing in roughly 3 hours. (have errands to run and then I will need to read the thread) sadly I need sleep right now.
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well dont be scared to ask whatever questions right now
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i'm gonna do my catch up one of two ways. i can either read stuff and respond to it as I read it or I'll read everythign without responding and keep notes and then post my notes when i'm done
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