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Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 07 2014 03:22 GMT
#501
On May 07 2014 12:20 Holyflare wrote:
Pretty sure the h is a typo of he. Seeong as he unscumread me right above that paragraph


I might have just herpaderped.

Still think Oats is towny, though.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 07 2014 03:34 GMT
#502
Where did Thrawn go? He was perfectly fine with talking about bullshit that isn't relevant to the game. Where are his notes/reads he said he was going to give us?
Spectaticle
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 07 2014 04:14 GMT
#503
Dude you cant rush video games. Have a little patience.
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 07 2014 04:26 GMT
#504
done up to page 15 so far. i'm not gonna read or respond to any post after this one until after i've finished going through the rest of the thread

+ Show Spoiler [p2-p15] +
page 2-3

I like how Cava handeled my trolly questions about lynching him on D1. I read him town for that when it happened and I still like that read.

page 4

so people are still being really trolly, and I don't think anything that happened in pages 2-4 are alignment indicative except for the stuff I mentioned about Cava.

page 5-6

more useless stuff, and then comes HF's super fake case. both HF and myself vote for vivax

page 7

tehpoofter joke vote on steveling is a bit weird. if he was going along with the joke then why not vote vivax? it's not super alignment indicative but I did think it was a bit weird at the time. cav does the same thing, and i don't know why, but it seems less weird for him not to vote vivax than it did for tehpoofter not to vote vivax. maybe it's because i read cav's stuff as obvious jokes and tehpoofter's looks a bit more forced? idk. i really doubt there's anything to this though.

page 8

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#143

now this is a pretty shitty post. it's so bad that I'm kinda wondering if steveling isn't trolling here. if he sticks to thsi line of reasoning seriously it'lll be something to pay attention to. Cav's posts about lurking were obviously jokes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#146

Ok, so he's serious. This post is about as bad as teh previous one I mentioned. i did NOT get the impression that cav was at all worried or "sweating" or whatever. Steveling is making a lot out of nothing.

And here comes Oats: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#152

I have skimmed the thread so I do know that oats and hf go at it for awhile. My current impression of Oats just having skimmed the rest of the thread is that I think he's probably town but I'm not very confident about that. But that vote is so much worse than I remembered it being. Was he calling HF scum? No. In fact the line "why even sign up if you arent going to bother" kinda implies that HF is town, albeit shitty town or whatever Oats was going for. That post looks sorta like a policy vote and a shitty one at that. So just off of that one vote I'm gonna have to reset my Oats read to null, maybe slightly scummy actually.

page 9

Ok koshi is noticing the exact same stuff about steveling that I did. Namely that steveling has a really really shit read and he is failing to understand that people are just joking around. Maybe a few town points go to koshi and maybe a few scum points to steve based on their interactions on page 9.

page 10

lmao oats is so crazy. i really don't knwo how to read him and will probably have to talk with him 1v1 to make a confident decision.

page 11

ok, I haven't commented on anything vivax has done yet because I think I need to see the end results of his efforts before judging him. I will say that so far i don't think he's really doing anything super useful with all the cav stuff he's talking about.

mderg comes in and says "After reading through this I don´t have a single read on anyone." idk, that seems like a likely read for someone to have I guess? the game was pretty trolly so far and mderg isn't super experienced so I can see it not being able to make anything of what's happened so far.

page 12

OK here is where the oats/hf stuff gets crazy. tbh this reminds me stuff that often happens to town oats. anyone remember this? "if rayn just only attacks town then it looks really bad so he wouldnt only attack town as scum, sooo he is scum for attacking town." i don't think the hiccup oats had in regards to HF's meta is outside the realm of his possible town play. and I remember from what I've skimmed that there are a few times where oats does sudden 180s on his reads and that's also something town oats does a lot. so right now i'm tentitively town reading oats.

and the rest of pg 12 is pretty boring

page 13

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=13#256

more "meh" from vivax. i don't really know where he's going with this.

Oh btw. I haven't mentioned it yet but hf looks pretty town.

page 15

vivax - "Regarding HF a lot is cause of the reasons he's pushing Oats with. Oats sometimes gets misunderstood or misreads or doesn't make something incredibly clear, so pointing out inconsistencies and calling his mistakes or wrong representations lies, as in scummy lies shouldn't be applied while it could be applied to a player who doesn't make such mistakes as town often."

So holyflare is scummy because he's not taking oat's meta into account. that's really stupid. yeah the stuff vivax is saying about oats is mostly right but that is no reason to scumread holyflare for not considering oat's dumb meta. holyflare was the townie person in the thread at this point and vivax scumreading him for something this dumb seems beneath vivax. big scum points to vivax

later down the page cav says this to vivax "I still don't understand why you would expect me to give a read of you based off of nothing"

I agree with that. seems like vivax is really forcing this cava scum read.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 07 2014 04:26 GMT
#505
On May 07 2014 13:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude you cant rush video games. Have a little patience.


I know.

I'm just a little peeved that this game is moving so slowly.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 07 2014 04:30 GMT
#506
Oh, there they are.

Continue on sir.
Spectaticle
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 07 2014 04:59 GMT
#507
ok done.

+ Show Spoiler [ page 16-26] +


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=16#314

i see steveling is continuing his streak of shitty posts. this line si the worst "On the other hand HF jumping on him for that reminds me of myself-gumshoe, so I get scum vibes from HF." same as with vivax. i think that hf up to this point has looked very very town so in order to scum read him you bette have some good justifications for it. this is not a good justification.

mdergs posts.... eh. i remember him being hard to read last game. idk if that's what's happening here but the posts he made on 16 seem a bit like he's trying to give reads and participate without really drawing attention to himself. but he was also that way his last town game. so i give mderg a giant "MEH" read.

page 17

stvelng - "You know guys, there's a chance both of you are town and scum is laughing in their qt atm."

he was scumreading hf earlier over the hf/oats situation so idk where this sentiment comes from.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=17#330

and in that post with his "LOLOLOLOL's" it seems liek he's gone back to scumreading hf?

Then oats asks steve " who is scum" and steve responds with some theory about majority vote setups and throws out the names 'mderg koshi.' Sooo.... he's not scumreading HF? And the list of names doesn't match up wioth the scum tells he describes. There probably should be a lot mroe people in that list. What a weird post.

page 18

more weird shit from steveling

"Damn it oats, stop playing like this, I'd hate to lynch you and then you flipping green."

why would he lynch someone that he thinks is town lol. everything about that post implies that oats is town so why is steveling even thinking about lynchying him?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=18#356

and that post is such a dumb thing to bring up. i'm not completely sold on steveling being scum yet but i'm starting to wonder if the shit-logic scum tells might apply here

page 19

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=19#364

OMG more shitposts. what a terrible representation of koshi's filter. steveling doesn't even seem to remember that koshi was on his ass during the early game? It's sorta right. Koshi hasn't done much. but he has done a lot more than what steveling gave him credit for.

Ok i think the stuff mderg posts on page 19 is townie but i don't really knwo why. gut read i guess.

page 20

nothing worth commenting on imo

page 21

i dont think anything vivax posted on page 21 was helpful. right now he doesnt seem to have any kind of scumhunting agenda

page 22

omg pg 22 was so boring.

page 23

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=23#449

+1 on that post. i'm going to have to read mderg's stuff seperately after I finish reading the thread becuase his posts really aren't doing much for me. i guess his posts about oats will be the ones to evaluate.

page 24

more dumb from steveling on pg 24. i feel like he doesn't really have any reasons for his reads and he just likes to fall back on the line "we should wait for inactives" whenever things start getting tricky.

page 25/26 - no comments
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 07 2014 05:00 GMT
#508
VIVAX


Only thing I have against vivax is that he only defended himself so far, not a single read on anoyone.
I want to see real posts or I'll give him scum points.




OATS


I don't trust Oats one bit.
After these ridiculous lies upon lies posts

On May 05 2014 20:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Holyflare playing like shit and way over blowing the non-serious attitude. In all his town games he gets down to business fast and even when he jokes around it isnt to this extent.

Cal might be scum for being overdefensive yeah or stevling for being seriously on vivax for no reason.


On May 05 2014 22:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
actually i have no idea how holyflare opens as town. The feeling i get is that he is trying way way way too hard to be funny


he slips.

On May 06 2014 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 00:20 Holyflare wrote:
On May 06 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 05 2014 23:45 Holyflare wrote:
Not paying attention to what? I'm asking why you even mentioned my meta in the first place if you had literally no idea about my meta at all. You've answered now "because it sounded nice"........................... wtf does that even mean, that's the scummiest shit i've ever heard, why would you need to make your argument sound nice if you're just trying to point out information you think is right (all my meta is in my profile too)

I literally said that meta shit because it sounded nice and convincing and had a decent chance of being correct.



how can you NOT understand the point i'm raising

if you are town WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO CONVINCE ANYONE OF ANYTHING IF YOU DO NOT KNOW IT'S CORRECT


##unbote
##Bote: Oatsmaster

because town needs it to be convinced, I dont. This is simple. You are blowing it up into a huge affair because you got caught.


He then lashes out on mderg for no reason at all.

On May 06 2014 00:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 00:26 mderg wrote:
I don´t understand your play right now, Oatsmaster. Why would you state something as fact, if you have no idea about it?

This is a totally uninformed and useless comment that is taking what I said and twisting it to suit his purposes.


What? How was it uninformed, useless or twisting things? Why so defensive oats?


On May 06 2014 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think you are scum for overacting and then this overreaction to something that I do practically every game anyway and I never do as scum.


Oats that admitted that he's gonna lie on will if it suits him is now calling upon his own meta as an excuse. Right.


He has posts upon posts against HF, not gonna bother listing them here.
After their debate came to a standstill here's what oats does

On May 06 2014 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
There are no mistakes. Also stevling seems to think im more likely to flip town. Is there any reason why mistakes = scum, stevling?
Also I reread holyflares filter and I retract my scumread.
##vote mderg

After thinking about vivax, I realised that his town read on me is really premature and the reasons he used are incorrect. H could flip scum too. I think I pretty much played exactly like the last 2 scumgames when he gave me the scumread so no real reason to think im town at the juncture


How nice huh? And he had to scrutiny vivax, the easiest target here atm.

Cav picks up on it

On May 07 2014 12:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Life on a farm has changed you thrawn.

Yo cav, why is my push on vivax opportunistic? If you read my filter you should know hes my top scumread. I just havent voted cause voting thread is super lazy for a 9 player game wtf blazinghand. Also cause we shouldnt kill vivax yet.


Really oats? Since when?
I defended you earlier because I expected some consistency on your HF hunt.
You don't get to lie on will, throw shit at someone, then switch targets like nothing happened and expect to get away with it.
You literally made up stuff, so you could argue with HF and then you become buddies.

I will have none of this.

This may also mean that you and HF are scum buddies but I will not go that far for now.

Take note guys that all oats has done in this game is to make shit up against HF and then randomly attack vivax, that's all.




POOFTER


He has done nothing this game so far.
He did the same thing when we were scumbuddies in the cell game.
Mby he's red or mby he should stop playing so many mafia games at once because he clearly can't handle the activity.
Could you stop that poofter?


I won't dive him atm but I get towny vibes from cav.

That's all for now.

##unbote
##bote:Oatsmaster
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 07 2014 05:01 GMT
#509
conclusions

scummy = vivax and maybe steveling.

townie = HF oats cav and maybe koshi

I need to reread mderg's stuff about oats but tbh i'd rather hf do that for me because I cba right now. and then there's tehpoofter, who fukn knows about him
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 07 2014 05:02 GMT
#510
nvm. i retract the maybe scummy i gave to steve, he's just plain scummy
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 07 2014 05:08 GMT
#511
On May 07 2014 14:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
nvm. i retract the maybe scummy i gave to steve, he's just plain scummy


I posted at 7, so after 1min you read it thoroughly enough to deduct that?
Sherlock is that you?
Can you give the reasons that you managed to think off for this, in these 60seconds?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 07 2014 05:09 GMT
#512
Shouldn't take more that 20seconds to type them out right?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 07 2014 05:09 GMT
#513
steveling do you think that the rest of us really needed to know that tehpoofter hasn't done anything? did you really need to use fancy bbcode to tell us all that?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 07 2014 05:11 GMT
#514
On May 07 2014 14:08 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 14:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
nvm. i retract the maybe scummy i gave to steve, he's just plain scummy


I posted at 7, so after 1min you read it thoroughly enough to deduct that?
Sherlock is that you?
Can you give the reasons that you managed to think off for this, in these 60seconds?


I saw a big bolded vivax name and you don't have anything to say about him after super townreading him all game

I saw a big bolded red oats name after seeing you act like you've knwon he's town all game long long (see the post I pointed out where you said it'd be a shame for you to have to lynch him and have him flip green)

and the extra informative section about tehpoofter

just a really wtf post.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 07 2014 05:11 GMT
#515
On May 07 2014 14:09 thrawn2112 wrote:
steveling do you think that the rest of us really needed to know that tehpoofter hasn't done anything? did you really need to use fancy bbcode to tell us all that?


Is that all?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 07 2014 05:13 GMT
#516
On May 07 2014 14:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 14:08 Steveling wrote:
On May 07 2014 14:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
nvm. i retract the maybe scummy i gave to steve, he's just plain scummy


I posted at 7, so after 1min you read it thoroughly enough to deduct that?
Sherlock is that you?
Can you give the reasons that you managed to think off for this, in these 60seconds?


I saw a big bolded vivax name and you don't have anything to say about him after super townreading him all game

I saw a big bolded red oats name after seeing you act like you've knwon he's town all game long long (see the post I pointed out where you said it'd be a shame for you to have to lynch him and have him flip green)

and the extra informative section about tehpoofter

just a really wtf post.


So you admit you haven't read it, you just find it strange that I change opinion on oats.
Good to know how you play.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 07 2014 05:16 GMT
#517
How do you go from this

On May 06 2014 20:57 Steveling wrote:
I'm very happy with vivax, I would pet him if I could, lol.
Very nice and logical posts.


On May 07 2014 02:21 Steveling wrote:
Can you guys drop this, vivax is super towny.
If he's scum he deserves to win. I can't read him as scum.


to this?

On May 07 2014 14:00 Steveling wrote:
VIVAX


Only thing I have against vivax is that he only defended himself so far, not a single read on anoyone.
I want to see real posts or I'll give him scum points.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 07 2014 05:18 GMT
#518
I haven't dived him obviously yet.
The general impression from reading the thread was that his posts are awesome.
His posts are still awesome, I still agree with them and I find them logical.
The thing is that after I dived him I noticed that he only defended himself.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 07 2014 05:21 GMT
#519
Why have you not filter dived the person that everyone wants to lynch? Shouldn't that be a top priority? Especially if you've already said you think he's "super townie?"

also, wat

On May 07 2014 14:18 Steveling wrote:
I haven't dived him obviously yet.

The thing is that after I dived him

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 07 2014 05:25 GMT
#520
I don't get you.
Have you read the oats thing?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
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