EPTMeh, will wait for poofter and mderg and thrawn to post something.
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Steveling
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Meh, will wait for poofter and mderg and thrawn to post something. | ||
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Koshi
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oh wait. You did the latter. | ||
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Vivax
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On May 06 2014 00:53 Holyflare wrote: So why is it that I can't use meta to prove that what you are saying is utter BS but you CAN use meta about yourself to say that you are right? Is this real life or are you just squirming? In what world does town oats lie about something so obviously fact checkable to try and get someone lynched when the game hasn't even started? + Show Spoiler + For anyone that wants to listen to his nonsense and is unconvinced about lynching this mofo yet: Catastrophe Mafia (Themed) - Didn't do anything ALL of day 1 (oats was in this game), trolled majority of it. Cell mini mafia trolled almost all game Titanic 3 Made a fake case on DP to start discussion/get the ball rolling/troll (oats was also in this game!!!) Vengeful Mafia Did the same thing as titanic 3 Really small mafia - scooby doo all game You have been in a lot of my games where I've opened with trolling! THAT is why there is an "overreaction" (hint: there's not), you LIED about my meta and it's something you should know about seeing as you were in a lot of those games to get me LYNCHED in an instant majority game but then when I point that out and you have to backtrack and suddenly me pointing out your lie is an overreaction???????? You are scum. I think what I bold here has so much emphasis that HF is either hysterical about what oats did or adheres to an aggressive scumread push too early in the game. It reads so dramatic and theatrical that it gives me scumvibes. Don't know about you but I do tend to get emphas-y and emotional as scum. Again, it's one bit of the puzzle. I wouldn't base my whole read on this but it bumps it into a direction and hence I would like some feedback. | ||
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Koshi
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In my mind he is way more passive as scum. Also I don't understand why you use your own scum meta (emotional?) to determine HF his scum meta when you just played with scum HF a week ago. | ||
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Holyflare
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On May 06 2014 21:04 Vivax wrote: I think what I bold here has so much emphasis that HF is either hysterical about what oats did or adheres to an aggressive scumread push too early in the game. It reads so dramatic and theatrical that it gives me scumvibes. Don't know about you but I do tend to get emphas-y and emotional as scum. Again, it's one bit of the puzzle. I wouldn't base my whole read on this but it bumps it into a direction and hence I would like some feedback. Did you even read titanic 3?????? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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I an throughly unimpressed with vivax' return to the thread. He never mentioned the stuff he said about me. Waffled on a cava scumread and in general is really defensive with no substance. | ||
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Holyflare
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On May 06 2014 16:12 mderg wrote: Why do I even bother reading this thread, if you´re saying I don´t read it anyway? I was saying that he´s not 100% scum for his case on you, not that he´s town. Just because I don´t read things the same way as you it doesn´t mean that I don´t read this thread. You´re really pissing me off this game. I don´t like koshi´s play. This sounds like wanting to policy lynch Oats when there are actual leads that go somewhere, there are reads in the thread, so I don´t like the post. Also, what´s thrawn doing right now, I want to hear more from him. This is a major overreaction to what I was saying. Like super overreaction. I said oats didn't have a case his case was based on lies and mderg then said that oats probably wasn't scum because of bad meta....? Oats didn't use bad meta he flat out lied which is what i pointed out about mderg not reading but then he gets all super hardcore pissed at me because i pointed out something that doesn't add up...? Mderg you still need to explain this. Are you saying you don't think oats lied or what..? Previously you said you had NO reads on other players when me and oats had been posting so when and why did that change for oats? | ||
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Holyflare
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On May 06 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote: Overall we want to get an atmosphere of discussion and not plain accusation and I think his style works against that. When somebody simply calls the stuff you say dumb, even when your points were nothing extremely damning, but a point from where to start scumhunting, you will feel the urge to avenge your point of view you feel had some validity (to the point of giving it more weight what it deserves cause you have to defend it against that attack), that's what I mean by polarizing me vs. Cava and blowing things out of proportion. I refused to engage on the conversation with HF more than I did cause of this reason. Arguing with him would have put me in a position where I would have been trying to give my point more weight than it actually has, also making me biased towards my read on Cava. What did i do after i called it dumb? I posted the reasons why it was most likely a towny point of view to not put someone at L-2 even when trolling and you responded that scum like to do things to appear towny which implied cava was trying to act towny instead of just being town. I tried to make discussion happen and you decided not to do it. Not to mention you just stated that you didn't want to argue after I called it dumb but your only return post was to still talk about cavalinho and falsely talk about oats and then ignored everything i posted after that which nullified what you said. Why u not discuss things? | ||
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On May 06 2014 20:57 Steveling wrote: I'm very happy with vivax, I would pet him if I could, lol. Very nice and logical posts. Can you explain this? You think what he's saying is contribution/good/towny? | ||
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mderg
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On May 06 2014 22:24 Holyflare wrote: This is a major overreaction to what I was saying. Like super overreaction. I said oats didn't have a case his case was based on lies and mderg then said that oats probably wasn't scum because of bad meta....? Oats didn't use bad meta he flat out lied which is what i pointed out about mderg not reading but then he gets all super hardcore pissed at me because i pointed out something that doesn't add up...? Mderg you still need to explain this. Are you saying you don't think oats lied or what..? Previously you said you had NO reads on other players when me and oats had been posting so when and why did that change for oats? Yeah, he lied. But a lie that obvious does not mean he´s scum. What I meant was that I don´t agree with jumping all over Oats for his case on you. I didn´t say that he probably wasn´t scum, I said that his case doesn´t necessarily make him scum. What´s so difficult to understand about that. My read on Oats didn´t change. He might be scum, he might not be scum. I doubt we can figure it out, if we just ride on that one case he made on you. | ||
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Vivax
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In the first I find it out of place that he would mention a summary of his opinion on some other players in a post that is otherwise designed to respond to my post and say he's suspicious of me. That makes me wonder about the motivation to talk about other stuff, cause it could be self-presentation (something like "look I'm making reads", but maybe it's something different and Cava can explain to me what it was that made him say that in between. On May 06 2014 02:38 Cavalinho wrote: Why does anyone have to like anything about my post in the first place? It was a post I made when everyone was goofing off, and then all of a sudden I start watching out for L-2 botes and I'm the most suspicious guy in the thread? Wtf? How is that even a logical conclusion to jump to at all? I do want to hear more from Koshi I guess, but Vivax is super suspicious to me right now. Steveling is doing silly shit too, but is pushing a possible inconsistency. I can see his line of thinking making sense, albeit being incorrect. Vivax is twisting shit. Why would I bother mentioning you at all in a joke post? Why would I willingly just put you at L-2 for no reason whatsoever, off of yet another joke post? Furthermore, why would I need to justify myself when the case on you is obviously fake? What are you trying to pull? In this post it's the last part. It displays a certain frustration that Steve focuses on Cava as possibly scummy while not on me for his points on me. I mean, it doesn' thave to be frustration but it certainly displays a certain aggressiveness. A lot of Cava's emphasis seems to go to his status as lynch bait in the majority of games (and that IS defensive), while imo you can townread him as I did in my last game, admittedly tentatively before reading who my scumbuddies were, mostly based on the assertive nature of his first posts. On May 06 2014 16:17 Cavalinho wrote: I've survived to Day 2 a grand total of one time. One. Out of 5 games. You think I'm not going to get defensive quickly? The town has proven to be my worst enemy, over and over again, for poor reasons. I don't trust any case being built up on me at any point to be left alone for any period of time. Furthermore, why do you ignore all of the other points that I've made? | ||
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