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On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. How can you know he used it? we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. True. N2 where he had all the reasons to fear being shot.
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On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. How can you know he used it? we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. So this basically means MZ has to be town unless both Mig & MZ are mafia right?
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On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. How can you know he used it? we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him.
at least he didnt claim it right away and then sticked with the story he didnt took any, which fits his role... LSB is obviously correct: if he's scum, he could have lied about it all. However i don't see the benefit of lying about such a simple thing, since taking damage doesn't incriminate him. so he had no reason to hide that damage.
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On December 11 2013 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote:On December 11 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. How can you know he used it? we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. So this basically means MZ has to be town unless both Mig & MZ are mafia right? Nope. That wasn't N1.
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I'm probably dead tonight (bummer). Will post some thoughts right before deadline in an hour, typing them up now.
BTW a shield should be temporary I think unless explicitly stated to be permanent. So 300/300 on two lovers is good for those two, but my heal is for 200 other/100 self. I placed heal on supersoft.
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On December 11 2013 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote:On December 11 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. How can you know he used it? we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. So this basically means MZ has to be town unless both Mig & MZ are mafia right?
No? why that?! in fact it's very unlikely that mig and mz are scum together.
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On December 11 2013 09:17 ticklishmusic wrote: I'm probably dead tonight (bummer). Will post some thoughts right before deadline in an hour, typing them up now.
BTW a shield should be temporary I think unless explicitly stated to be permanent. So 300/300 on two lovers is good for those two, but my heal is for 200 other/100 self. I placed heal on supersoft.
ty bro. if you die, i will take vengeance!!!
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So Mig would see MZ's health and he did claim seeing it. MZ has no reason to lie about being hit as scum. Therefore we can assume he used his clone (why would he lie about not taking dmg?). So, why did MZ use his clone on N1 as mafia? Again, did he assume he would take 1000 KP from town?
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What I know: Mig shot MZ N1 - MZ claimed to have taken no damage and Mig got back a HP value. MZ claimed to have used his clone. MZ had no reason to fear being shot as scum. Mig tried to shoot MZ N2 and evidently nothing happened/ MZ took no damage. MZ had strong reasons to use his clone this night because he was under heavy suspicion.
I think it is absolutely possible MZ lied about using his clone N1.
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On December 11 2013 09:16 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote:On December 11 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. How can you know he used it? we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. at least he didnt claim it right away and then sticked with the story he didnt took any, which fits his role... LSB is obviously correct: if he's scum, he could have lied about it all. However i don't see the benefit of lying about such a simple thing, since taking damage doesn't incriminate him. so he had no reason to hide that damage.
Simply having a clone in an unexpected situation (such as night 2, which could be another explanation for the crown thing, in addition to roleblocking) is always valuable. If I were a mafia Wukong I would probably try to claim I used my clone ability quickly so I could dodge a town vig who wouldn't have shot me if he thought I had my clones
The reason why I am so cautious is due to Mig focusing Meepak
On December 10 2013 12:33 Mig wrote: Mz - n1 I got 825 back as my result. N-2 I got nothing back so my shot did not hit you. Either it was stopped or you were protected.
coag didnt have to post in the thread so seems he was just being a monkey.
Does anyone have the updated sign up list? Need to see who else is going to take damage. I find it odd that Mig was unable to use his second action, and probably one of the strangest things that went on last night. If Mig hit meepak and returned an odd HP number, I think MZ would be under even more serious suspicion.
Anyways, it'd be best to wait for the day post for more information on this
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On December 10 2013 12:33 Mig wrote: Mz - n1 I got 825 back as my result. N-2 I got nothing back so my shot did not hit you. Either it was stopped or you were protected.
How is it impossible again? Fuba claimed roleblocked. Is there 2 roleblockers? What? Who is lying?
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One of the questions is - how likely is it that Mig got a hp value back if he hit a clone? Not very likely I think. More likely that Mig hit a clone N2 and got no HP value back.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Wait so I'm being focused with KP now?
Hahaha Sandro all you've done all game is chase after one lead which you don't like then proceed to get the them killed. I didn't particularly like your case on Bum and hated the one on Austin. I felt you were town most of the game and now I'm starting to doubt it.
Every time I post in this thread you jump on my ass for it. You haven't made a case aside from "read his filter." Yeah, please do read it. Every time I post I say who I think is scum and why. You ignore what I post and say it's garbage.
In all seriousness I'm hardly a lurker. I just don't get a lot of time to sit here and post bull shit one liners. My filter is the same length or longer than half the players in the game and my posts are not short. Make your case then please.
I still think gtrs, lsb, mig, rean, roffles are much better options for our kp.
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On December 11 2013 09:24 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:16 supersoft wrote:On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote:On December 11 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. How can you know he used it? we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. at least he didnt claim it right away and then sticked with the story he didnt took any, which fits his role... LSB is obviously correct: if he's scum, he could have lied about it all. However i don't see the benefit of lying about such a simple thing, since taking damage doesn't incriminate him. so he had no reason to hide that damage. Simply having a clone in an unexpected situation (such as night 2, which could be another explanation for the crown thing, in addition to roleblocking) is always valuable. If I were a mafia Wukong I would probably try to claim I used my clone ability quickly so I could dodge a town vig who wouldn't have shot me if he thought I had my clones The reason why I am so cautious is due to Mig focusing Meepak Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 12:33 Mig wrote: Mz - n1 I got 825 back as my result. N-2 I got nothing back so my shot did not hit you. Either it was stopped or you were protected.
coag didnt have to post in the thread so seems he was just being a monkey.
Does anyone have the updated sign up list? Need to see who else is going to take damage. I find it odd that Mig was unable to use his second action, and probably one of the strangest things that went on last night. If Mig hit meepak and returned an odd HP number, I think MZ would be under even more serious suspicion. Anyways, it'd be best to wait for the day post for more information on this Very good point.
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The problem is why the fuck would you ever use the clone as mafia unless you are < 500 hp or smth if you have like... any other ability? That's just dumb, unless you somehow know / assume town will hit you with like 1000 KP. Why does noone think about these things?
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On December 10 2013 22:48 Mid or Feed wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 12:46 Mig wrote: would a role block prevent an inventors item from working or just that players powers Yes Don't talk bullshit please. Neither Fuba's power nor the item use went through. Why are you talking bullshit LSB?
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On December 11 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is why the fuck would you ever use the clone as mafia unless you are < 500 hp or smth if you have like... any other ability? That's just dumb, unless you somehow know / assume town will hit you with like 1000 KP. Why does noone think about these things? Because he had LEGIT REASONS to assume he would be hit with a big amount of KP N2 after that lynch.
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On December 11 2013 09:25 justanothertownie wrote: One of the questions is - how likely is it that Mig got a hp value back if he hit a clone? Not very likely I think. More likely that Mig hit a clone N2 and got no HP value back.
Correct me if I am wrong. Last time I tried to ask hosts clarification questions all I got back were question marks in big bloded blue
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On December 11 2013 09:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is why the fuck would you ever use the clone as mafia unless you are < 500 hp or smth if you have like... any other ability? That's just dumb, unless you somehow know / assume town will hit you with like 1000 KP. Why does noone think about these things? Because he had LEGIT REASONS to assume he would be hit with a big amount of KP N2 after that lynch. That's bullshit. Town did not consolidate KP so there is no reason to assume anything like that.
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On December 11 2013 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 09:30 justanothertownie wrote:On December 11 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is why the fuck would you ever use the clone as mafia unless you are < 500 hp or smth if you have like... any other ability? That's just dumb, unless you somehow know / assume town will hit you with like 1000 KP. Why does noone think about these things? Because he had LEGIT REASONS to assume he would be hit with a big amount of KP N2 after that lynch. That's bullshit. Town did not consolidate KP so there is no reason to assume anything like that. That's the best you can come up with against my argument? Good. I feel confident about this now.
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