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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: That's WIFOM bullshit. Look at the thread. I was under no suspicion. What possible motivation do I have to lie at that point? Like I'd get your point if I had cloned last night and then announced to the thread my role but I did it N1. My role has been outed since Mig said he shot me. Also, I never got a PM saying I had taken damage, the first time I learned of it was when people brought it up to me in the thread. If I hadn't cloned, I would have taken the damage. Why wouldn't I claim this damage in the thread? Why lie? The logic path you're assuming I went on makes no sense at all. I have considered it! Whether you cloned or not it wouldn't matter. Whatever result I got back would confirm things one way or another. The main issue I have is why didn't I get a result n2. I very much doubt mafia are going to waste a rb on me n2 (they apparently didn't rb VE?). So unless kassadin stopped me why didn't I get a result on you. To me it makes sense that maybe I hit a clone and don't get results back from it. Anyway though! I am not that concerned with whether you used a clone or not once I found out the invention was blocked by rb as well. I am a bit concerned with your supposed second ability. Most peoples hidden ability is at the very least as strong if not stronger than their first. Your claimed second ability is insanely bad. A one shot 50 dmg nuke on 3 people. Really? Seems a bit fishy. MZ who do you think is scum? What do you think about the plan on focus firing JL? | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Are you seriously suggesting that using the clone on N2 as mafia is a better option? How much damage did MZ block. 150, hooray, fucking best clone use ever! | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
Great, but I can't have because I already used it. Now look back at the time I used it, it was N1, I was under zero suspicion. What possible scum motivation do I have to use it there. Mig hits me and gets the result for my clone. Great, now I have to wait a cycle to use clone again. I can't just magically have another usage because N2 would be a better time to use it BECAUSE I ALREADY USED IT. Why would I lie N1? I can't have known what was going to happen D2, I can't go and retroactively change the past so I can use my ability again. Finally, my ability doesn't roleblock which is what sounds like happened to mig. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Again, who the fuck cares if you have 900 or 700 or 600 hp as scum? When town starts consolidating all KP on one target then it might become a problem. Rayne it isnt just about kp. His clone takes his spot for all abilities. If he was afraid of the invention or afraid of a check (not sure what a dt check would show on his clone) etc he could use the clone. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
*I* have been pushing for a JL lynch since Day fucking One, and everyone disses it -- even when a flipped townie came to the same conclusion as me. Like fuck this. My case on JL hasn't changed because hes done *NOTHING* since. The case simply can not evolve; and now suddenly you guys want to shoot him. don't get me wrong, *PLEASE SHOOT/LYNCH HIM* but this is fucking frustrating. In my opinion: The real question should be: With towns limited KP, who do we want to lynch next cycle. Because there is zero value to shooting someone to 50% and then lynching them.... Thus, to shoot JL we need a solid alternative to consider lynching next cycle. e.g. Kush or LSB So either Shoot JL and lynch 1 of {Kush, LSB} or Shoot 1 of {Kush, LSB} and lynch JL I prefer lynching JL, because I am very confident he is scum. So I advocate shooting someone like LSB --> because he is of higher value to scum as a hero than a VT Kush | ||
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justanothertownie
16324 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: So JAT if you were scum!MZ you would have used your clone on N2 when whatever town does you know you can't die instead of something like N4-5 when town starts thinking "maybe we should use all KP-roles to kill MZ"? Are you seriously suggesting that using the clone on N2 as mafia is a better option? How much damage did MZ block. 150, hooray, fucking best clone use ever! He didn't know how much he would block so don't even bring that bullshit in the equation. And yes, why not use it? It is not one-shot. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:54 justanothertownie wrote: No, I can't see the logic flaw and there is no way of knowing you really used it N1. Please stop acting dumb. If I had got hit, wouldn't I have claimed it regardless of alignment? What possible reason would scum have to not talk about getting hit? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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justanothertownie
16324 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:57 Mig wrote: Rayne it isnt just about kp. His clone takes his spot for all abilities. If he was afraid of the invention or afraid of a check (not sure what a dt check would show on his clone) etc he could use the clone. Thank you. The invention alone is enough reason to use the clone. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:59 justanothertownie wrote: Thank you. The invention alone is enough reason to use the clone. But I didn't know about the invention N1! I can't just magically have the clone back. How hard is this to understand. Just because you want me to have cloned N2 doesn't mean I actually can. And also wtf, my clone is starting to sound like a superpower. Where are you seeing that it would have got me out of an alignment check because I'm missing that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
But the logic is so bad it's not worth arguing against. It basically makes no sense fo you as scum to use the clone on N2 even if you did not use it on N1. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 11 2013 10:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Mig shoot me again. +1 free cop check on the guy all the scummy people call scum. best profit. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:55 Mig wrote: Most peoples hidden ability is at the very least as strong if not stronger than their first. Your claimed second ability is insanely bad. A one shot 50 dmg nuke on 3 people. Really? Seems a bit fishy. So far everyone had his ult as second abilitie. I am not sure about Leblanc since I don't play her, but mimic is the ult right? Khazix had a lot of abilities and somehow didn't fit in this pattern, too. What's the name of your second abilitie? I got my ult. ziggs got his ult | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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justanothertownie
16324 Posts
I think that includes alignment checks. Can someone tell me why we assume mkfuba was roleblocked because his ability didn't work? If he tried to use item + ability that might have been too much. Didn't people say you could only do one thing at a time? | ||
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