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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote: we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. True. N2 where he had all the reasons to fear being shot. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote: we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. So this basically means MZ has to be town unless both Mig & MZ are mafia right? | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote: we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. at least he didnt claim it right away and then sticked with the story he didnt took any, which fits his role... LSB is obviously correct: if he's scum, he could have lied about it all. However i don't see the benefit of lying about such a simple thing, since taking damage doesn't incriminate him. so he had no reason to hide that damage. | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: So this basically means MZ has to be town unless both Mig & MZ are mafia right? Nope. That wasn't N1. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
BTW a shield should be temporary I think unless explicitly stated to be permanent. So 300/300 on two lovers is good for those two, but my heal is for 200 other/100 self. I placed heal on supersoft. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: So this basically means MZ has to be town unless both Mig & MZ are mafia right? No? why that?! in fact it's very unlikely that mig and mz are scum together. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:17 ticklishmusic wrote: I'm probably dead tonight (bummer). Will post some thoughts right before deadline in an hour, typing them up now. BTW a shield should be temporary I think unless explicitly stated to be permanent. So 300/300 on two lovers is good for those two, but my heal is for 200 other/100 self. I placed heal on supersoft. ty bro. if you die, i will take vengeance!!! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
MZ has no reason to lie about being hit as scum. Therefore we can assume he used his clone (why would he lie about not taking dmg?). So, why did MZ use his clone on N1 as mafia? Again, did he assume he would take 1000 KP from town? | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
Mig shot MZ N1 - MZ claimed to have taken no damage and Mig got back a HP value. MZ claimed to have used his clone. MZ had no reason to fear being shot as scum. Mig tried to shoot MZ N2 and evidently nothing happened/ MZ took no damage. MZ had strong reasons to use his clone this night because he was under heavy suspicion. I think it is absolutely possible MZ lied about using his clone N1. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:16 supersoft wrote: at least he didnt claim it right away and then sticked with the story he didnt took any, which fits his role... LSB is obviously correct: if he's scum, he could have lied about it all. However i don't see the benefit of lying about such a simple thing, since taking damage doesn't incriminate him. so he had no reason to hide that damage. Simply having a clone in an unexpected situation (such as night 2, which could be another explanation for the crown thing, in addition to roleblocking) is always valuable. If I were a mafia Wukong I would probably try to claim I used my clone ability quickly so I could dodge a town vig who wouldn't have shot me if he thought I had my clones The reason why I am so cautious is due to Mig focusing Meepak On December 10 2013 12:33 Mig wrote: Mz - n1 I got 825 back as my result. N-2 I got nothing back so my shot did not hit you. Either it was stopped or you were protected. coag didnt have to post in the thread so seems he was just being a monkey. Does anyone have the updated sign up list? Need to see who else is going to take damage. I find it odd that Mig was unable to use his second action, and probably one of the strangest things that went on last night. If Mig hit meepak and returned an odd HP number, I think MZ would be under even more serious suspicion. Anyways, it'd be best to wait for the day post for more information on this | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 10 2013 12:33 Mig wrote: Mz - n1 I got 825 back as my result. N-2 I got nothing back so my shot did not hit you. Either it was stopped or you were protected. How is it impossible again? Fuba claimed roleblocked. Is there 2 roleblockers? What? Who is lying? | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
Correct me if I am wrong. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
Hahaha Sandro all you've done all game is chase after one lead which you don't like then proceed to get the them killed. I didn't particularly like your case on Bum and hated the one on Austin. I felt you were town most of the game and now I'm starting to doubt it. Every time I post in this thread you jump on my ass for it. You haven't made a case aside from "read his filter." Yeah, please do read it. Every time I post I say who I think is scum and why. You ignore what I post and say it's garbage. In all seriousness I'm hardly a lurker. I just don't get a lot of time to sit here and post bull shit one liners. My filter is the same length or longer than half the players in the game and my posts are not short. Make your case then please. I still think gtrs, lsb, mig, rean, roffles are much better options for our kp. | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:24 LSB wrote: Simply having a clone in an unexpected situation (such as night 2, which could be another explanation for the crown thing, in addition to roleblocking) is always valuable. If I were a mafia Wukong I would probably try to claim I used my clone ability quickly so I could dodge a town vig who wouldn't have shot me if he thought I had my clones The reason why I am so cautious is due to Mig focusing Meepak I find it odd that Mig was unable to use his second action, and probably one of the strangest things that went on last night. If Mig hit meepak and returned an odd HP number, I think MZ would be under even more serious suspicion. Anyways, it'd be best to wait for the day post for more information on this Very good point. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Don't talk bullshit please. Neither Fuba's power nor the item use went through. Why are you talking bullshit LSB? | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is why the fuck would you ever use the clone as mafia unless you are < 500 hp or smth if you have like... any other ability? That's just dumb, unless you somehow know / assume town will hit you with like 1000 KP. Why does noone think about these things? Because he had LEGIT REASONS to assume he would be hit with a big amount of KP N2 after that lynch. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:25 justanothertownie wrote: One of the questions is - how likely is it that Mig got a hp value back if he hit a clone? Not very likely I think. More likely that Mig hit a clone N2 and got no HP value back. Correct me if I am wrong. Last time I tried to ask hosts clarification questions all I got back were question marks in big bloded blue | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:30 justanothertownie wrote: Because he had LEGIT REASONS to assume he would be hit with a big amount of KP N2 after that lynch. That's bullshit. Town did not consolidate KP so there is no reason to assume anything like that. | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's bullshit. Town did not consolidate KP so there is no reason to assume anything like that. That's the best you can come up with against my argument? Good. I feel confident about this now. | ||
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