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LoneMeow
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Artanis[Xp]
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Onegu
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On November 18 2013 19:45 LoneMeow wrote: BH seems like fine lunch right now. ##Vote: BlazingHand Id prefer a burger and fries but if you like hand well done to each his own. Ok Im caught up. Im ok with a BH lynch but think it should be a double lynch so we can hit 2 scum today. I still havent finished my filter reads yet Im on HolyFlare now and I still think he is scum. I was way off on mocsta as I was catching up when he said he shot storrzerg I wrote "terrible shot but most likely makes him town" And was also wrong on sharrant. Anyway I will finish my filters and reread grack tonight, not sure he should be completely taken off the table as town, dont like that I am agreeing with BH here but WIFOM. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 04 2013 06:59 marvellosity wrote: The mayor receives the following powers: He will decide the Day 1 lynch. He will have a double vote on all subsequent days. He is given a special vest so he may survive one extra KP. Also once during the game he may call for a double lynch for the next cycle by typing ##Double Lynch in the thread. Double Lynch cannot be called for the current cycle, only the next. So (for example) a Mayor calls for double lynch on Day 3 by requesting it on Day 2/Night 2. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Onegu
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On November 16 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote: I honestly have no idea how this argument keeps getting used IN FAVOUR of LM. He's contributed jack shit, his only posts in the mason chat are asking what yamato thinks about rayn. This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list.... His only participation in this thread is shock at storrzerg being new/not new. Congratulations, he's in the background again. As far as this little gem that I've seen: Risen, you quite clearly know that this wasn't the only post that BH did in WHC so why does it not phase you that his content thus far has been utterly appalling? BH in WHC was shaparoning, giving reads, solving things and eventually got us to lynch your scum partner. Does this really look like the same BH to you? On November 17 2013 06:53 Holyflare wrote: @risen + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2013 15:06 Risen wrote: Hmm, HF why are you misconstruing my post? I was referring to a single BH post there. It phased yamato, didn't phase me. Why are you indirectly defending yamato here? Do you know he's town? Are you scum? Well I read through the thread and then through your filter and didn't realise you posted this before BH remained useless. Even so, have your thoughts on him devoloped since then? What I said still applies, a useless BH will always remain a useless BH. I'm just waiting tentatively for him to be the next target and then claim a role that must make us "save" him just like hogwarts (he was scum). __________________________ @Onegu + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2013 01:04 Onegu wrote: Im going to address two things here first my take on LM and second HF take on LM and his condridiction of his own words. First you say LM has contributed jackshit, and while this is true it is not alignment indicative of LM, he lurks and doesnt do much as either alignment. Second you say what he did in hogwarts scum qt, so why in this game do you think he wouldnt do the same thing? Or do you think he did the same thing and his scummates told him to mason yamato one of the better scumhunters on the site? Also LM doesnt say he rng, he picked a person without haveing a read on them so he picked someone he knew, this is all townie things to do. HF how can you call LM scummy for this, but in your own post say LM asks his scummates what he should do with his powers. The only way I could even slightly see this as being from a scum LM, is if LM and Yamato are scum together and this is a play for towncred. But this is very unlikely. And from your post I dont think that is how you see this. You are just trying to make LM look bad. I think you have misunderstood what I was saying with the entirety of my LM posts. I am not calling him scummy and I am not calling him town, he is a big fat null read. The sentiment on the thread, especially being repeated by yamato over and over again when people bring up LM's name was that he was town purely because of the way he had masoned. This was making me sick because that flat out rules out the alternative - the stuff that he did last game. People may not have seen hogwarts and don't know what happened and thus blindly accepted what yamato says as logical and probably truthful when in actual fact what I said can also apply and thusly LM should not be a town read to ANYONE at all. You have misconstrued and misread many of the things I have said all game, which I will be happy to detail my thought process on if you need me to. In regards to mattchew, I'm not sure you did read my filter properly. I was scouring through the game - rereading like I said - and his posts struck me as non-mattchewesque. So I dug a little deeper and made a case on him. As his database games are older ones I therefore asked if anyone knows how he plays scum, and questioned people that were present at the time of that post. I still think he is scummy disregarding any meta at all but he is also a lurker and therefore my attention to him became wasted and so I ended the discussion till he returned - which he actively did not. ______________________________________________________________________________________ Sorry had this lying here for ages, I am caught up though and i'm comfortable with VE being mayor or maybe even pardoner for now. Even if his targets are all lurkers I feel he will be more useful later in the game too and deserves the vest. Yamato I am not so sure about as pardoner though, I'd be more comfortable with someone else there until I re-read over his posts. I got the feel he was too brash about some of his town reads. Im not quite sure how you are saying you had a null read on LM. It looks alot more like you say he is playing exactly like his scum game, which im my mind equates to you calling him scum. And I have already quoted all of the relevant mattchew posts, not sure how you say I am misrepresenting you. If you would like to point out IN DETAIL how I am doing so I am willing to reconsider. But now I am still confident in my scum read of you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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LoneMeow
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On November 18 2013 20:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I can't help but notice that two of the three scumshots were people critical of VE (Yamato, Spaghetticus). StorrZerg doesn't count since it was the only shot Mocsta could make if he wanted to claim, and even he wasn't positive about VE. I'm not sure if it's a set up or if we should be looking into our mayor with a lot more scrutiny than before. I could perhaps buy yamato and Spaghetticus being shot because they looked extremely towny, but why was Sharrant shot? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On November 18 2013 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think both Blazinghand and Bloodycobbler are scum. Explanation in a bit when i have a nice cup of coffee in front of me. BC has been on my radar for some time now. I'm looking forward to your explanation. On November 18 2013 20:54 LoneMeow wrote: I could perhaps buy yamato and Spaghetticus being shot because they looked extremely towny, but why was Sharrant shot? I don't think scum would shoot Spaghetti just because he looks towny. He was either shot to discredit VE or because he was critical of VE. As for Sharrant, that's probably a bluesnipe. Sharrant was very much in the background, and his only real accusation was on Rayn whom I have a solid town read on. | ||
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OOHCHILD
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I also might be leaning scum on BH. because it looks like the scumteam has trackers, which would make his claim not fake. Having a legitimate tracker claim as scum could make him think he could get away with trolling. | ||
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Onegu
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Now the BH & BC thing. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On November 18 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sharrant was shot because he was obviously blue if he wasn't scum. That dude is the worst guy on this planet to hide his blueness. Now the BH & BC thing.  | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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LoneMeow
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 18 2013 09:53 Mocsta wrote: Running behind schedule, works a bitch today and Im only up to p124. Things I want to say before deadline. (1) Artanis: You are tunneled. Your issues with me are because I do not play the game the same way you choose to. That is not an indicator of scum. Everyone that has played with me many times realises this is how I play town. Further, all your reads on other players hinge upon their thought process on me. You should know association reads are terribad. You are obsessed beyond reason. Unfortunately, the way you walk people through your mindset makes me lean town. You need to drop this; or if you can't, fine -- Accept there are other players in the game that *must* be scum and look there. (2) Spag: You need to sleep more. Your argument agianst me is that I played 3-4 games with you and should know you best, hence, should understand how you play as town/scum. Yet, neither of us call recall the specific details of these games. Fact: I have an opinion on my expectations for your play; however, I don't think for one second this is gospel. Its been 10-11months since we played together and this is your first game back. If you want to know what I remember from the game we played together: Kush and his buddy got modkilled 1/2way through Day1 and I was left by myself in my first scum game ever. You came in as a replacement and hammed up your play style intentionally. Every decision was premeditated. Thus, I questioned your actions with VE. My qualms were specifically as I had outlined. No more no less. (3) Grack: Is still scum. Im pretty disappointed my gracktease got shut down yesterday - however, I suppose it needs the support of the case to be more convincing to all. I am not expecting to die, but on the off-chance something did happen. Please read his filter this game, and compare to Hogwarts. I find the play worlds apart. In Hogwarts Grack was useless and not confident in his assessments. Here, Grack is still useless but his delurks are opportunistic and he is constantly jutting in with opinions but no justifications/evolutions. (4) Storrzerg: I only had 1 bullet so may as well claim. I vigg'd him. You can thank me Day2. I'm under the pump already at work, so will prob unveil the Grack case tonight (say 12hrs from now) This is what Mocsta had to say. He shot Storrzerg ho he can't push his lynch on D2. Where does it leave him. At Grackaroni. Grackaroni is the only person he finds suspicious. What does Mocsta need to do on D2? He literally can't do anything else than to tunnel Grackaroni who is found suspicious by about half of the thread. Looks like a buss? No fucking way in hell. That's so very incredibly stupid scumplay it cannot be true. There is about 20 other players which from ~10 don't look too dandy and Mocsta chooses his scumbuddy (who is unders suspicion anyways) to be his tunneltarget on D2. Fuck you, Grackaroni has to be town and this post of Mocsta proves it. Now what does BloodyCobbler do when D2 starts. Acts confused as fuck. Right, did some poor vigilante break your scumplans in lynching Grackaroni. No worries. Let's go through Mocsta's filter. Then BC makes a terribad post about how Moscta interacted with other players and ends in no conclusions. Cool, he promises conclusions later. When he gets to them, the conclusion he makes is that everyone else Mocsta ever talked about is town and Grackaroni is scum! This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard because from the people Mocsta talked about Grackaroni is least likely to be scum. Now what does Blazinghand do when D2 starts. He attacks Grackaroni. On November 18 2013 16:32 Blazinghand wrote: I think so. in a moc/grack/foo scumteam, grack is a weak link. Moc wants to live for multiple days and get his shots off, so it's a reasonable bus. It also ties in with grack's playstyle, the troll-serious-troll thing. Moc can back off his bus if he needs to, saying "oh that was grack trolling" or something, or he can ramp up the pressure if he thinks a grack lynch is coming, and he wants credit. Both are reasonable. It's a pretty flexible bus and it makes sense with the moc role. This post is so terribad i don't even know what to say. Look at what i said about Grackaroni <-> Mocsta before and then read this post. Which makes more sense? Right. Mocsta can't possibly back up from his accusations against Grack because that's not what he does. There is no fucking way Mocsta decided to buss Grack "because he had a better role" when he can instead attack one of the 10 townies in therad who are playing like shit. Bullshit BH, bullshit. On top of that yamato wanted Blazinghand dead. yamato wanted BloodyCobbler dead. yamato wanted no other people dead, besides being suspicious of VE who looks terribad aswell. That's enough evidence. Scum's plans went to shit and they dunno what to do when their "D2 mislynch Grackaroni" plan went down the toilet. Therefore they are FROZEN! Blazinghand and Cobbler are scum. ##Unvote: Vote: Blazinghand P.S. Holyflare is still scum but killing BH is far funnier. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 18 2013 21:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Do you believe that scum is really putting all their cards on lynching Grackaroni that they're all coming out of the woodworks and oging all in on it? It seems like such a bad idea that I find it hard to see a team with BC in it act that clueless. I have no idea but what BH and BC are doing is so riduculous it can't be town-. | ||
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