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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 07:22 GMT
#2961
On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw

because Grackaronis are always town.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 07:24 GMT
#2962
On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw

because Grackaronis are always town.


dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 07:25 GMT
#2963
On November 18 2013 16:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:50 Pandain wrote:
Hey man I was pretty certain he was mafia


pandain can you answer this?

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 14:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:30 Pandain wrote:
No because scum doesn't tell someone they fake-claim due to being busy. That seems more like a townie thing to do.


earlier you said if BH is town then that changes everything about how you view the game. has it and if so how?


Yes I'm learning I still have a lot to learn


i'm not talking about how to play mafia... i'm wanting to know how/if your other reads have changed or if you've gained any new ones as a result of all this


you said:

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On November 18 2013 10:53 Pandain wrote:
Actually if I'm wrong about BH then I'm going to be wrong in a lot of stuff and have to basically rethink everything I think about mafia.

hmmm


this implies that a change in your BH read will greatly influence your thoughts on this current game. so has it?



No I meant how to play mafia and I would be wrong on how I approach the game and think things
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 07:25 GMT
#2964
Whatever BH, this is bad.


Grack, I dont have anything specific, but he was posting very actively and reactively with the intent of moving the thread forward. You notice how I had a scumread coming in to the game but yeah he got better.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 07:26 GMT
#2965
The only way you dont get lynched is if you claim BH.
No gg, No skill.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
November 18 2013 07:26 GMT
#2966
On November 18 2013 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw

because Grackaronis are always town.


dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it

Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar.

##vote grackaroni
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 07:27 GMT
#2967
On November 18 2013 16:25 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 15:50 Pandain wrote:
Hey man I was pretty certain he was mafia


pandain can you answer this?

On November 18 2013 14:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:30 Pandain wrote:
No because scum doesn't tell someone they fake-claim due to being busy. That seems more like a townie thing to do.


earlier you said if BH is town then that changes everything about how you view the game. has it and if so how?


Yes I'm learning I still have a lot to learn


i'm not talking about how to play mafia... i'm wanting to know how/if your other reads have changed or if you've gained any new ones as a result of all this


you said:

On November 18 2013 10:53 Pandain wrote:
Actually if I'm wrong about BH then I'm going to be wrong in a lot of stuff and have to basically rethink everything I think about mafia.

hmmm


this implies that a change in your BH read will greatly influence your thoughts on this current game. so has it?



No I meant how to play mafia and I would be wrong on how I approach the game and think things


eh... that's not at all the impression I got from that post. regardless, has your read change on BH affected anything else about how you're processing the game? it seemed to be all you wanted to talk about so I imagine that it should. what is your priority numero uno right now?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 07:28 GMT
#2968
what is this BH.
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 07:30 GMT
#2969
On November 18 2013 16:26 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw

because Grackaronis are always town.


dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it

Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar.

##vote grackaroni


yea ok

so you think mocsta was bussing?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 07:32 GMT
#2970
On November 18 2013 15:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Koshi is likely scum but I want to hear more from BH. I also haven't peeked into Oats' filter since the start of the game so I will take a look at him.


you've had a decently long convo with him (oats) so what do you think now?

btw I agree with you about koshi. my read on him right now is completely based off the super strong super townie connection I had with him in WC and i'm eagerly looking forward to getting to talk to him 1 on 1 to follow up that read.

you were one of the people I was looking at pre D2 but with the direction mocsta seemed tobe heading I'm not so sure about that read anymore. I do have a question for you....

earlier you said this:

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On November 18 2013 10:29 Grackaroni wrote:
It would be pretty cool if all the scum end up being the people pushing me.


can you elaborate on exactly what you were thinking at the time you wrote this? obviously mocsta fits that category but who else? there were lots of people on your case, which of them are scum? you must have had a least a few people in mind

I'm get a pretty good vibe off of Oats right now. I haven't reread his filter I've just been chatting so far. Comment meant nothing. It was just because I liked that it was scum pushing my lynch and would like to believe that other people pushing me are also scum. Pandain/BC/VE/BH all fit that category off the top of my head. Should actually be a decent number of scum in there too.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
November 18 2013 07:32 GMT
#2971
On November 18 2013 16:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:26 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw

because Grackaronis are always town.


dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it

Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar.

##vote grackaroni


yea ok

so you think mocsta was bussing?


I think so. in a moc/grack/foo scumteam, grack is a weak link. Moc wants to live for multiple days and get his shots off, so it's a reasonable bus. It also ties in with grack's playstyle, the troll-serious-troll thing. Moc can back off his bus if he needs to, saying "oh that was grack trolling" or something, or he can ramp up the pressure if he thinks a grack lynch is coming, and he wants credit. Both are reasonable. It's a pretty flexible bus and it makes sense with the moc role.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 07:33 GMT
#2972
Grack is a weak link? Did you not see how he played the game I totally fucked up? Really BH?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 07:33 GMT
#2973
Totally talking out of his ass to justify a bad read.
No gg, No skill.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
November 18 2013 07:35 GMT
#2974
well look at grack's play, oats. I'm completely serious here. if you had a scummate playing like this (link) and you are a 2-shot vigi isn't a bus the most sensible play?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 07:35 GMT
#2975
On November 18 2013 16:32 Grackaroni wrote: Pandain/BC/VE/BH all fit that category off the top of my head. Should actually be a decent number of scum in there too.


here's the part where you elaborate on why you found their suspicions of you to be suspicious....
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 07:36 GMT
#2976
On November 18 2013 16:26 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw

because Grackaronis are always town.


dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it

Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar.

##vote grackaroni

lol I'm like the only person doing much of anything and you complain that I make comments like I normally do in order to make people take me less seriously. That's absurd. I say things like that every game I play and you play with me all the time.

You are full of shit. I went back into Golden Sun. Your entire claim that game was an S = Survivor, which was taken from a random S + Q within your post. When people asked you what the Q was you went. "Whaaaaat? You think I'm just going to leave a random S in my post? Get real!"

This claim was more methodical. You didn't just happen to make that reference in your first line in your first post. You pre-planned the connection for a tracker claim.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 07:36 GMT
#2977
On November 18 2013 16:35 Blazinghand wrote:
well look at grack's play, oats. I'm completely serious here. if you had a scummate playing like this (link) and you are a 2-shot vigi isn't a bus the most sensible play?

The point I'm making is that scum Grack doesnt play like that.
I dont even. What. What.
Is this a scumslip?
No gg, No skill.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 07:38 GMT
#2978
On November 18 2013 16:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:26 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw

because Grackaronis are always town.


dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it

Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar.

##vote grackaroni

lol I'm like the only person doing much of anything and you complain that I make comments like I normally do in order to make people take me less seriously. That's absurd. I say things like that every game I play and you play with me all the time.

You are full of shit. I went back into Golden Sun. Your entire claim that game was an S = Survivor, which was taken from a random S + Q within your post. When people asked you what the Q was you went. "Whaaaaat? You think I'm just going to leave a random S in my post? Get real!"

This claim was more methodical. You didn't just happen to make that reference in your first line in your first post. You pre-planned the connection for a tracker claim.


no they were both bullshit
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what pandain stop commenting on BH even though you're helping me
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
November 18 2013 07:39 GMT
#2979
On November 18 2013 16:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:35 Blazinghand wrote:
well look at grack's play, oats. I'm completely serious here. if you had a scummate playing like this (link) and you are a 2-shot vigi isn't a bus the most sensible play?

The point I'm making is that scum Grack doesnt play like that.
I dont even. What. What.
Is this a scumslip?


I'm not a 2-shot scum vigi and if I were I would never slip it in a post.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
November 18 2013 07:39 GMT
#2980
Also, scumslips aren't real. Again.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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