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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 06:42 GMT
#2921
No, it's not even about bad.

Why would scum fake claim 6 hours before?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 06:42 GMT
#2922
Pandain all you talk about is BH's fake claim. It's not an attractive look for you. I want you to talk to me about my case. discuss actual reads with me rather than drone on about this one thing over and over again.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 06:43 GMT
#2923
No I'm done thinking about BH for the most part. I'm not talking about it except to explain what I think about BH. And I can do that without thinking hard while I would have to read your analysis of Koshi, then read Koshi's filter, then read his meta, and so forth which would take like an hour.

It's convenience posting for me until I fall asleep
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 06:44 GMT
#2924
aka I'm only discussing with Oats because he's probably wrong
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 06:45 GMT
#2925
On November 18 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So too bad to be scum. Right.

I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 06:49 GMT
#2926
Also vig talks are pretty pointless since mafia have doctors.

If anything keep it secret and then surprise them; good job whoever shot Mocsta
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 06:49 GMT
#2927
On November 18 2013 15:43 Pandain wrote:
No I'm done thinking about BH for the most part. I'm not talking about it except to explain what I think about BH. And I can do that without thinking hard while I would have to read your analysis of Koshi, then read Koshi's filter, then read his meta, and so forth which would take like an hour.

It's convenience posting for me until I fall asleep

It's not just tonight though, even earlier in the day when I originally wrote a case on Koshi all you were doing was attacking BH for making a dumb claim.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 06:50 GMT
#2928
Hey man I was pretty certain he was mafia
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 06:52 GMT
#2929
BH scum is as easy to read as Yamato's scum. If he doesn't scumhunt then he dies. No point continuously pushing him for making a dumb claim.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 06:53 GMT
#2930
On November 18 2013 15:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Oats, can you elaborate on what you meant earlier when you said VE can't play this good as scum? I think he looks quite bad right now.

Why does VE look bad?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 06:54 GMT
#2931
On November 18 2013 15:42 Pandain wrote:
No, it's not even about bad.

Why would scum fake claim 6 hours before?

because yamato wanted to kill him and he possibly couldnt post between 6-0 before the deadline.
Why would town fake claim 6 hours before?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 06:55 GMT
#2932
On November 18 2013 15:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So too bad to be scum. Right.

I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.)

But hopeless is bad at playing scum. He is just blending man. He posts insightful and useful stuff as town and doesnt do it as scum. And he is TRYING to post its just not very good.
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 06:57 GMT
#2933
On November 18 2013 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Oats, can you elaborate on what you meant earlier when you said VE can't play this good as scum? I think he looks quite bad right now.

Why does VE look bad?

He wouldn't fully flesh out any real reasoning for his mayor lynch targets being scum. The fact that he ended up lynching Skanjab. I also don't like the way he started accusing me of "breaking character" as soon as I attempted to question Mocsta.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 06:57 GMT
#2934
On November 18 2013 15:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Koshi is likely scum but I want to hear more from BH. I also haven't peeked into Oats' filter since the start of the game so I will take a look at him.


you've had a decently long convo with him (oats) so what do you think now?

btw I agree with you about koshi. my read on him right now is completely based off the super strong super townie connection I had with him in WC and i'm eagerly looking forward to getting to talk to him 1 on 1 to follow up that read.

you were one of the people I was looking at pre D2 but with the direction mocsta seemed tobe heading I'm not so sure about that read anymore. I do have a question for you....

earlier you said this:

On November 18 2013 10:29 Grackaroni wrote:
It would be pretty cool if all the scum end up being the people pushing me.


can you elaborate on exactly what you were thinking at the time you wrote this? obviously mocsta fits that category but who else? there were lots of people on your case, which of them are scum? you must have had a least a few people in mind
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 06:58 GMT
#2935
On November 18 2013 15:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:45 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So too bad to be scum. Right.

I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.)

But hopeless is bad at playing scum. He is just blending man. He posts insightful and useful stuff as town and doesnt do it as scum. And he is TRYING to post its just not very good.

I'll look into him then. I don't think I've seen a scum hopeless before.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 06:59 GMT
#2936
On November 18 2013 15:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:42 Pandain wrote:
No, it's not even about bad.

Why would scum fake claim 6 hours before?

because yamato wanted to kill him and he possibly couldnt post between 6-0 before the deadline.
Why would town fake claim 6 hours before?


Oh stop he posted afterwards

and it makes sense if you don't want to get lynched and don't have time to fully commit day one as town.

This is the last I'll post of this since Grack wants me to stop, though I'm a bit irritated he doesn't see that I'm not even concerned about BH that much anymore
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 07:01 GMT
#2937
On November 18 2013 15:50 Pandain wrote:
Hey man I was pretty certain he was mafia


pandain can you answer this?

On November 18 2013 14:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:30 Pandain wrote:
No because scum doesn't tell someone they fake-claim due to being busy. That seems more like a townie thing to do.


earlier you said if BH is town then that changes everything about how you view the game. has it and if so how?


Yes I'm learning I still have a lot to learn


i'm not talking about how to play mafia... i'm wanting to know how/if your other reads have changed or if you've gained any new ones as a result of all this


you said:

On November 18 2013 10:53 Pandain wrote:
Actually if I'm wrong about BH then I'm going to be wrong in a lot of stuff and have to basically rethink everything I think about mafia.

hmmm


this implies that a change in your BH read will greatly influence your thoughts on this current game. so has it?

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 07:01 GMT
#2938
On November 18 2013 15:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 18 2013 15:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Oats, can you elaborate on what you meant earlier when you said VE can't play this good as scum? I think he looks quite bad right now.

Why does VE look bad?

He wouldn't fully flesh out any real reasoning for his mayor lynch targets being scum. The fact that he ended up lynching Skanjab. I also don't like the way he started accusing me of "breaking character" as soon as I attempted to question Mocsta.

Yeah the skanjab lynch was weird and bad. So you dont think the 'breaking character' thing is accurate? Why did you change from messing around to playing properly?
No gg, No skill.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
November 18 2013 07:02 GMT
#2939
Hello guys, I'm back. It seems that thrawn has outed me before I could get the chance to do it myself. Time to get cracking and clear my name!

On November 18 2013 15:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So too bad to be scum. Right.

I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.)


now that's some bayesian reasoning!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 18 2013 07:02 GMT
#2940
Can we lynch Pandain?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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