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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 12:36 GMT
#3021
Also riddle me this. Why would scum not shoot into them (BH/BC) if they were town? They have no reason to expect BH is not a tracker. They have every reason to expect yamato is docced over BC. Fuck they did not even roleblock BH.
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OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 18 2013 12:37 GMT
#3022
I recall VE and mocsta interactions not looking like scum on scum. VE talks about how scared he is of mocsta's scumgame.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 18 2013 12:42 GMT
#3023
On November 18 2013 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also riddle me this. Why would scum not shoot into them (BH/BC) if they were town? They have no reason to expect BH is not a tracker. They have every reason to expect yamato is docced over BC. Fuck they did not even roleblock BH.

Supersoft did instruct docs to heal BC and not yamato. I think it's fair to presume a scumteam would expect ss's authority to work here. Not shooting BH makes little sense though and I'm happy to lynch him. Though I'm suspicious of BC myself your case hasn't really swayed me. I find his initial comeback where he makes a big case with little content on Grack more damning.
Now that I think back, I also remember that Mocsta said he thought he started the case on Grack, where BC actually did so. Could this be an unintentional miscommunication in the scum QT in that they devised a strategy to get Grack mislynched? Might be too farfetched, but I dunno.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 12:46 GMT
#3024
Also another thing. See how Pandain accuses Blazinghand of fakeclaiming. He brings up two games. One where BH fakeclaimed survivor on D1, and one where BH fakeclaimed cop on N0.

What would town Blazinghand do? He would love to tear that sort of arguments down because that is so ridiculously bad. Let's look at those claims in comparsion to this one.
Survivor claim in Golden sun:
Yes the claim was bad but it was reasonable. Blazinghand even got mad after the game when there was actually a survivor who scum shot on N1 (that kinda outed him).
Cop claim in I'M A COP YOU IDIOT:
LOOK AT THE FUCKING GAME NAME AND YOU SEE HOW RIDICULOUS THE ARGUMENT IS. The point of the game is for scum to fakeclaim cop, yet Pandain says "see BH has fakeclaimed before" roflllllllll...

The only reasonable fakeclaim Pandain could bring up is BH's doc claim in Hogwarts, yet he doesn't.

If Blazinghand was town he would love to tear Pandain's argument apart because it was so fucking bad! Because THIS is JUST what Blazinghand LOVES in mafia games! Instead he just does not say anything about it.

lol, BH so so very scum! Lynch with fire.
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OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 18 2013 13:03 GMT
#3025
rayne the problem with you is i have to read your whole filter to get the case on BH, because you spread it out one piece at a time.
I wish you could consolidate your case into 1 post, can use quotes of your other posts if you want.
Because I know there are good points against BH you brought up, but your most recent one is pure wifom and pretty terrible.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 13:12 GMT
#3026
On November 18 2013 22:03 OOHCHILD wrote:
rayne the problem with you is i have to read your whole filter to get the case on BH, because you spread it out one piece at a time.
I wish you could consolidate your case into 1 post, can use quotes of your other posts if you want.
Because I know there are good points against BH you brought up, but your most recent one is pure wifom and pretty terrible.

No you just need to read 5 of my last posts. Or then you should consider reading the thread..

Also Pandain is probably scum because the claim-case on BH was so terrible. Pandain loves to make terrible cases against his scumbuddies (as he can backpedal from them easily). He made a shit case on me in Noir and right after posted in scum QT "lol rayn i couldn't make a decent case on you, you are playing well".
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 13:13 GMT
#3027
Back in business. Last 72 hours didn't go as planned. Will re-visit everything.
Don't know yet where to start. Both rayn and VA make sense after flips. I might have been wrong about everything.

D:
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 13:13 GMT
#3028
And kush it's not WIFOM. It is a point that BH refuses to debunk a terribad argument against him. Noone refuses to debunk terribad arguments against them as town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 13:14 GMT
#3029
On November 18 2013 20:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can't help but notice that two of the three scumshots were people critical of VE (Yamato, Spaghetticus). StorrZerg doesn't count since it was the only shot Mocsta could make if he wanted to claim, and even he wasn't positive about VE. I'm not sure if it's a set up or if we should be looking into our mayor with a lot more scrutiny than before.

Do you do this as scum? Or do you have evidence that VE does this as scum? Because Yamato and spag both didnt get much traction with their scumreads on VE. Everyone was like mehhhh MAYBE. I dont think thats a good enough reason tbh.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 13:15 GMT
#3030
Oats if you think VE is town at this point you are dumb.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 13:17 GMT
#3031
You think VE is scum?
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 13:18 GMT
#3032
On November 18 2013 22:17 Koshi wrote:
You think VE is scum?

I dunno and i don't care atm because there are at least 3 better targets but i don't think he is town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 13:18 GMT
#3033
So to break down your scumreads in the last 2 pages rayn, its
BC
BH
VE
Pandain
I think you might have 1 or 2 wrong.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 13:20 GMT
#3034
On November 18 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
So to break down your scumreads in the last 2 pages rayn, its
BC
BH
VE
Pandain
I think you might have 1 or 2 wrong.

Maybe, but i am sure it's not BH what's wrong.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 13:23 GMT
#3035
The thing I don't like about BC being scum for pushing Grack as scum agenda is that it is unlikely he is so silly to do it after thread sentiment is going in favor of Grack vs BH/Mocsta.

Would be too easy that both BH and BC are scum. Kinda would prefer it if Grack is scum.

Also, the things BC said make sense if they are correct.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 18 2013 13:23 GMT
#3036
Rayn, I remember you voicing suspicions on supersoft and austin in the past. Do you still have those?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 13:24 GMT
#3037
On November 18 2013 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, I remember you voicing suspicions on supersoft and austin in the past. Do you still have those?

That was mainly because of their lack of scumreads as i stated. I need to see what they do now when we actually have a lynch where everyone participates.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 13:25 GMT
#3038
On November 18 2013 22:23 Koshi wrote:
The thing I don't like about BC being scum for pushing Grack as scum agenda is that it is unlikely he is so silly to do it after thread sentiment is going in favor of Grack vs BH/Mocsta.

Would be too easy that both BH and BC are scum. Kinda would prefer it if Grack is scum.

Also, the things BC said make sense if they are correct.

Koshi this is really bad. Of course everything one says makes sense if they are correct. What the hell is this?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 13:26 GMT
#3039
On November 18 2013 22:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 22:23 Koshi wrote:
The thing I don't like about BC being scum for pushing Grack as scum agenda is that it is unlikely he is so silly to do it after thread sentiment is going in favor of Grack vs BH/Mocsta.

Would be too easy that both BH and BC are scum. Kinda would prefer it if Grack is scum.

Also, the things BC said make sense if they are correct.

Koshi this is really bad. Of course everything one says makes sense if they are correct. What the hell is this?

I mean the meta search he did. About Mocsta not talking about his teammates. That stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 18 2013 13:27 GMT
#3040
Slight correction to something in the OP:
On November 04 2013 06:59 marvellosity wrote:
Mafia KP is # of mafia/2 rounded down (not including suicide bombers, vigis, etc).

This suggests that mafia KP would be 0 when there is only 1 mafia left, but the mafia will still have 1KP in that situation. I've updated the relevant part to reflect this.
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