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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 18 2013 14:02 GMT
#3061
On November 18 2013 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also I don't think Marv would put BH at the head of a scumteam due to his tendency to troll.

Now that's WIFOM, i do not think BH "must be town because scumteam balance".

I'm not saying BH can't be scum, I'm saying I don't think he's the supervet scum. He could very well be scum with one of BC/Mig/VE.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 18 2013 14:05 GMT
#3062
Actually, forget I ever said any of this because it's an invitation to discuss stuff unrelated to scumhunting and gives scum a chance to blend in.
Any opinions on Thrawn?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:06 GMT
#3063
On November 18 2013 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually, forget I ever said any of this because it's an invitation to discuss stuff unrelated to scumhunting and gives scum a chance to blend in.
Any opinions on Thrawn?

itm got him as town because he instantly tried to play the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 14:06 GMT
#3064
On November 18 2013 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also I don't think Marv would put BH at the head of a scumteam due to his tendency to troll.

what. This is the most bullshit thing ever. Please stop artanis. Pleas.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:06 GMT
#3065
On November 18 2013 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually, forget I ever said any of this because it's an invitation to discuss stuff unrelated to scumhunting and gives scum a chance to blend in.
Any opinions on Thrawn?

thrawn is pretty much town from our mason chat. Trust me, thrawn is like confirmed town if BH flips scum. I'll elaborate more on that after the lynch in any case.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 14:06 GMT
#3066
Hey koshi, is Rayn still scum?
No gg, No skill.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 14:07 GMT
#3067
balancediscussion:

I am not sure, whether marv balances his setups. I talked with a few guys, don't know if marv was one of them about the idea, to make an allvet or an allnewb scumteam and see what happens, since often times people discuss that topic like we're doing right now.
I remember the time when the setups were like that, and like in bureaucrazy-mafia, after wbg/syllo/sandro and I were alsmost sure about each other, we knew Palmar/foolish were scum.
That was just too easy. Lately, I think the setups are more random. I don't think that BC or VE are scum atm. But as I said, regardless what I and you think their alignment is, i think we need to give them another day.
I am rereading BH later and we have to consider Pandain and others who were around at the lynchtime and didn't switch after I said i'd kill mocsta.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:08 GMT
#3068
On November 18 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey koshi, is Rayn still scum?

Only in a team with you and Grack.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:10 GMT
#3069
On April 11 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 20:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 19:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
I already said I won't use LR again.

But the game was balanced as fuck, so whateveeeeeeer.


You mean Palmar/Ace/Marv/Sci town?
yeah. balanced.


I think this game proved how little stock to put in ideas like that. Marv was dancing to scums tune and you almost mislynched sciberbia.

Look how much foolishness and Ver did in Personality 2.

I am happy that Dandel Doesn't balance around vets. It's a retarded idea.


The point of this is that our team had very little thread influence(Not activity based, like skill based), like marv HAD to push wrong lynches for us to win. All of us cant spearhead a lynch, we need someone to take our ideas and kill dudes with it.
Which takes a lot of power out scum's hands again, which I didnt like.



yeah oats is completely right here. 3 mafia were dead by the middle of day 3. not even because the mafia themselves individually played badly or anything, but none of them have any thread impact to control things.

Despite mistakes from townies like me and Palmar (wos/sci early, ace/oats) it didn't even matter one bit because there were lots of other townies with good ideas.

This game shows precisely why teams need to be balanced, not the opposite, DP.

After Ego Mini mafia. Discussion closed. Now find scum supersoft and stop talking about shit.
table for two on a tv tray
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 14:12 GMT
#3070
On November 18 2013 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 19:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
I already said I won't use LR again.

But the game was balanced as fuck, so whateveeeeeeer.


You mean Palmar/Ace/Marv/Sci town?
yeah. balanced.


I think this game proved how little stock to put in ideas like that. Marv was dancing to scums tune and you almost mislynched sciberbia.

Look how much foolishness and Ver did in Personality 2.

I am happy that Dandel Doesn't balance around vets. It's a retarded idea.


The point of this is that our team had very little thread influence(Not activity based, like skill based), like marv HAD to push wrong lynches for us to win. All of us cant spearhead a lynch, we need someone to take our ideas and kill dudes with it.
Which takes a lot of power out scum's hands again, which I didnt like.



yeah oats is completely right here. 3 mafia were dead by the middle of day 3. not even because the mafia themselves individually played badly or anything, but none of them have any thread impact to control things.

Despite mistakes from townies like me and Palmar (wos/sci early, ace/oats) it didn't even matter one bit because there were lots of other townies with good ideas.

This game shows precisely why teams need to be balanced, not the opposite, DP.

After Ego Mini mafia. Discussion closed. Now find scum supersoft and stop talking about shit.


Are you insane? How are you talking to me?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:15 GMT
#3071
On November 18 2013 23:12 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 19:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
I already said I won't use LR again.

But the game was balanced as fuck, so whateveeeeeeer.


You mean Palmar/Ace/Marv/Sci town?
yeah. balanced.


I think this game proved how little stock to put in ideas like that. Marv was dancing to scums tune and you almost mislynched sciberbia.

Look how much foolishness and Ver did in Personality 2.

I am happy that Dandel Doesn't balance around vets. It's a retarded idea.


The point of this is that our team had very little thread influence(Not activity based, like skill based), like marv HAD to push wrong lynches for us to win. All of us cant spearhead a lynch, we need someone to take our ideas and kill dudes with it.
Which takes a lot of power out scum's hands again, which I didnt like.



yeah oats is completely right here. 3 mafia were dead by the middle of day 3. not even because the mafia themselves individually played badly or anything, but none of them have any thread impact to control things.

Despite mistakes from townies like me and Palmar (wos/sci early, ace/oats) it didn't even matter one bit because there were lots of other townies with good ideas.

This game shows precisely why teams need to be balanced, not the opposite, DP.

After Ego Mini mafia. Discussion closed. Now find scum supersoft and stop talking about shit.


Are you insane? How are you talking to me?

Do you still think Oatsmaster is the best lynch or where are you at the moment?
I see you talking a lot about irrelevant stuff. BH/BC being scum/town has nothing to do with scumteam balance and talking about it at this point of the game is irrelevant regardless of if marv balances teams or not.

I suggest you talk about something relevant to todays lynch, please.
table for two on a tv tray
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 14:17 GMT
#3072
Yes. An Oatslynch is still on the table.
I am going to dig through his former games and I am going to reread BH and dig through his former games.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:18 GMT
#3073
rayn are you aware your push against BH/BC/VE is somehing that was occasionally mentioned by Grack?
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 18 2013 14:19 GMT
#3074
I wish those not playing the game would start playing the game.
Stutters, where are you? I don't remember you being this inactive in previous games
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 18 2013 14:19 GMT
#3075
On November 18 2013 23:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I wish those not playing the game would start playing the game.
Stutters, where are you? I don't remember you being this inactive in previous games


i do
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:20 GMT
#3076
On November 18 2013 23:18 Koshi wrote:
rayn are you aware your push against BH/BC/VE is somehing that was occasionally mentioned by Grack?

I dunno what do you want me to answer? Elaborate please?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:22 GMT
#3077
Like yes i am aware of it, so?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:23 GMT
#3078
Just saying.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:24 GMT
#3079
Koshi if i was a parity cop and checked you on N1 and checked myself on N2 and got a different result what would you say on D3?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:28 GMT
#3080
LIES! Or framed. Or miller.
I had a good night of sleep.
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