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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:28 GMT
#3081
On November 18 2013 23:28 Koshi wrote:
LIES! Or framed. Or miller.

Quite an interesting answer given there are no parity cops in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:30 GMT
#3082
Nor are there framers or millers.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:31 GMT
#3083
Then it was obviously a lie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 18 2013 14:31 GMT
#3084
Are you going anywhere with this Rayn? I thought of the same answers when I read your post initially, even though I was aware there were no cops in the setup.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 14:33 GMT
#3085
lol what rayn.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:36 GMT
#3086
On November 18 2013 23:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are you going anywhere with this Rayn? I thought of the same answers when I read your post initially, even though I was aware there were no cops in the setup.

Koshi is probably town. If he was scum he would know there are no cops, framers & millers and would have given "lol there are no cops" answer most likely.

I am just puzzled why he seems to be implying Grackaroni is scum because that's really bad assumption. I can't figure out why Mocsta would bus the "most likely to be lynched scum on D2" in the game when he has many other options. That's like really dumb and i don't think that was the strategy of the scumteam. It's so surreal i don't even know how anyone in this game could think so.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 18 2013 14:38 GMT
#3087
On November 18 2013 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 23:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are you going anywhere with this Rayn? I thought of the same answers when I read your post initially, even though I was aware there were no cops in the setup.

Koshi is probably town. If he was scum he would know there are no cops, framers & millers and would have given "lol there are no cops" answer most likely.

I am just puzzled why he seems to be implying Grackaroni is scum because that's really bad assumption. I can't figure out why Mocsta would bus the "most likely to be lynched scum on D2" in the game when he has many other options. That's like really dumb and i don't think that was the strategy of the scumteam. It's so surreal i don't even know how anyone in this game could think so.

I don't think that's a reliable method you used because I had just read the OP a bit before you asked it and my gut reaction would've been similar to Koshi's. The human mind responds irrationally to threatening situations, and I wouldn't find it hard to imagine him responding the same way as scum.

I don't think Koshi actually thinks Grack is scum right now, just that a Grack scumteam would include you, unless I'm miscontruing his post.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:40 GMT
#3088
Like seriously:
- Push this weak townie
- Push this weak townie
- Push this weak townie
- Push this strong townie who looks bad
- Bus Grackaroni because i have a better role than he does

"I choose bus Grackaroni of those options on N1".

WTF GUYS? Does anyone in this game have an idea what to do and what to not do as scum? I doubt...
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:41 GMT
#3089
True true.

I just find BC quite interesting and believing to read.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:41 GMT
#3090
On November 18 2013 23:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 23:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are you going anywhere with this Rayn? I thought of the same answers when I read your post initially, even though I was aware there were no cops in the setup.

Koshi is probably town. If he was scum he would know there are no cops, framers & millers and would have given "lol there are no cops" answer most likely.

I am just puzzled why he seems to be implying Grackaroni is scum because that's really bad assumption. I can't figure out why Mocsta would bus the "most likely to be lynched scum on D2" in the game when he has many other options. That's like really dumb and i don't think that was the strategy of the scumteam. It's so surreal i don't even know how anyone in this game could think so.

I don't think that's a reliable method you used because I had just read the OP a bit before you asked it and my gut reaction would've been similar to Koshi's. The human mind responds irrationally to threatening situations, and I wouldn't find it hard to imagine him responding the same way as scum.

I don't think Koshi actually thinks Grack is scum right now, just that a Grack scumteam would include you, unless I'm miscontruing his post.

Yeah because you are town. Scum tend to be careful about their answers, especailly Koshi. I know this for a fact.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 18 2013 14:43 GMT
#3091
On November 18 2013 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 23:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 18 2013 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 23:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are you going anywhere with this Rayn? I thought of the same answers when I read your post initially, even though I was aware there were no cops in the setup.

Koshi is probably town. If he was scum he would know there are no cops, framers & millers and would have given "lol there are no cops" answer most likely.

I am just puzzled why he seems to be implying Grackaroni is scum because that's really bad assumption. I can't figure out why Mocsta would bus the "most likely to be lynched scum on D2" in the game when he has many other options. That's like really dumb and i don't think that was the strategy of the scumteam. It's so surreal i don't even know how anyone in this game could think so.

I don't think that's a reliable method you used because I had just read the OP a bit before you asked it and my gut reaction would've been similar to Koshi's. The human mind responds irrationally to threatening situations, and I wouldn't find it hard to imagine him responding the same way as scum.

I don't think Koshi actually thinks Grack is scum right now, just that a Grack scumteam would include you, unless I'm miscontruing his post.

Yeah because you are town. Scum tend to be careful about their answers, especailly Koshi. I know this for a fact.

Koshi doesn't strike me as a careful poster. Do you remember a scumgame of his where you felt this was the case?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:44 GMT
#3092
Hey hey hey. I am right here.
Could you guys read page 4 of BC his filter and tell me that is scummy?

imo it is pretty good.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 18 2013 14:46 GMT
#3093
On November 18 2013 23:44 Koshi wrote:
Hey hey hey. I am right here.
Could you guys read page 4 of BC his filter and tell me that is scummy?

imo it is pretty good.

One thing that instantly strikes me is how he changes his read on Storr from scum to null. A possible motivation for that could be knowing that Mocsta's going to shoot him during the night phase, and this way he'll look slightly better.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:46 GMT
#3094
On November 18 2013 23:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 23:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 18 2013 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 23:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are you going anywhere with this Rayn? I thought of the same answers when I read your post initially, even though I was aware there were no cops in the setup.

Koshi is probably town. If he was scum he would know there are no cops, framers & millers and would have given "lol there are no cops" answer most likely.

I am just puzzled why he seems to be implying Grackaroni is scum because that's really bad assumption. I can't figure out why Mocsta would bus the "most likely to be lynched scum on D2" in the game when he has many other options. That's like really dumb and i don't think that was the strategy of the scumteam. It's so surreal i don't even know how anyone in this game could think so.

I don't think that's a reliable method you used because I had just read the OP a bit before you asked it and my gut reaction would've been similar to Koshi's. The human mind responds irrationally to threatening situations, and I wouldn't find it hard to imagine him responding the same way as scum.

I don't think Koshi actually thinks Grack is scum right now, just that a Grack scumteam would include you, unless I'm miscontruing his post.

Yeah because you are town. Scum tend to be careful about their answers, especailly Koshi. I know this for a fact.

Koshi doesn't strike me as a careful poster. Do you remember a scumgame of his where you felt this was the case?

Yes i do. GoT.
There he got accused by Dandel and some other people. He came to scum QT saying "fuuuucckkk.. i dunno what to do i go inactive shit i can't say anything at all".
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:48 GMT
#3095
Here is my game plan.

1) We lynch BH
2) BH tells us his scumreads after 120 hours of game.
3) VE uses double lynch if BH is believable
4a) If BH flips town we use 1 of the lynch as courtesy to BH
4b) If BH flips scum we are full of joy and just lynch 2 other scummers D3

yay
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:49 GMT
#3096
Artanis i will now explain this in detail.
If Koshi was scum he would know i am town. He would also be aware there are no cops, framers or millers because his scumteam has no framers 100%. I ask him a weird question. He also knows me pretty well. He would therefore know there is something i am trying to achieve with my question. What is rayn after? What's he trying to accoplish with this? What the fuck do i need to answer.

Therefore - as scum - he would most likely give an answer that can't go wrong with, which would be "lol rayn there are not cops in this game".
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:50 GMT
#3097
On November 18 2013 23:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 23:44 Koshi wrote:
Hey hey hey. I am right here.
Could you guys read page 4 of BC his filter and tell me that is scummy?

imo it is pretty good.

One thing that instantly strikes me is how he changes his read on Storr from scum to null. A possible motivation for that could be knowing that Mocsta's going to shoot him during the night phase, and this way he'll look slightly better.

Yeah, but do you think scum already knew they would shoot StorrZerg? And do you think scum were the ones making Storrzerg a viable shot for towncred?

Mocsta didn't have to claim and could have easily shot somebody else. Looks more like Mocsta was gathering towncred with that shot, from BC, because he is town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 14:51 GMT
#3098
On November 18 2013 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis i will now explain this in detail.
If Koshi was scum he would know i am town. He would also be aware there are no cops, framers or millers because his scumteam has no framers 100%. I ask him a weird question. He also knows me pretty well. He would therefore know there is something i am trying to achieve with my question. What is rayn after? What's he trying to accoplish with this? What the fuck do i need to answer.

Therefore - as scum - he would most likely give an answer that can't go wrong with, which would be "lol rayn there are not cops in this game".

rayn next time I am scum, because it has been way too long, I am going to dazzle you. But this game I am town so I couldn't dazzle you.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 14:53 GMT
#3099
On November 18 2013 23:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 23:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 18 2013 23:44 Koshi wrote:
Hey hey hey. I am right here.
Could you guys read page 4 of BC his filter and tell me that is scummy?

imo it is pretty good.

One thing that instantly strikes me is how he changes his read on Storr from scum to null. A possible motivation for that could be knowing that Mocsta's going to shoot him during the night phase, and this way he'll look slightly better.

Yeah, but do you think scum already knew they would shoot StorrZerg? And do you think scum were the ones making Storrzerg a viable shot for towncred?

Mocsta didn't have to claim and could have easily shot somebody else. Looks more like Mocsta was gathering towncred with that shot, from BC, because he is town.

I think Mocsta was trying to gather towncred from people who actually thought he was scum, like supersoft.
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OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 18 2013 14:54 GMT
#3100
gratz you guys have successfully made it nearly impossible for anyone but yourselves to read the whole game. well done.
there's literally no way BC is going to have the time to catch up, and it's way harder to read someone who doesn't read.

So please rayne koshi artanis everyone knows you are all town. Stfu and let other people talk please, and if you have something to say, CONSOLIDATE your thoughts.
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