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austinmcc
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VayneAuthority
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VisceraEyes
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This game is just too hard. I need to read some more. | ||
austinmcc
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Like, if I can convince you I'm town, and we're actually looking at having two lynches, then the game is won. | ||
VisceraEyes
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VayneAuthority
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On October 11 2013 10:36 austinmcc wrote: This game also odd, because if we think it's cheese v. va v. austinmcc, then it's equally sexy for town to show another guy is mafia OR to show you're town. Like, if I can convince you I'm town, and we're actually looking at having two lynches, then the game is won. huh? how is the game won with 2 lynches, we havent seen the night flip yet | ||
VisceraEyes
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VayneAuthority
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WaveofShadow
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I really do think Austin is town here. I want to go reread the end of PTP for a bit because that game would show similar effort from a scum Austin (before he was outed, even) and I don't remember it being quite as earnest as this game. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 11 2013 10:42 VayneAuthority wrote: That's why it says "IF . . . we actually have two lynches".the thing is, me and rayn concluded earlier that there can be two kills tonight. we don't know that we have 2 lynches yet. On October 11 2013 10:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah, it got interesting quick.I know I've never had more anxiety over a seemingly won game in all my life XD More crap that I probably don't do if I'm scum - On October 08 2013 14:29 austinmcc wrote: ... Koshi, I would ask that you shoot VA or myself tonight. I trust you to make a decent decision within or outside of that, but here is my reasoning. You, as far as I can tell, think VA is town. You've got some doubts, some little things that bug you, but appear to think he's town. Dunno where you currently are on me. But here's the thing, VA and I appear to be ... entirely opposed. I've been calling him mafia. He's been calling me mafia. For a while now. Both of us would like to show that the other guy is mafia and that we're town. Not only that, but finding the townie betwixt us is important. It colors some other things, possible what to do about Pandain. If you shoot into us tonight, you confirm someone or kill scum. And if you confirm someone, we can be nearly nearly nearly 100% that the other one is mafia. It should also be relatively apparent that we are NOT the two remaining scum. This isn't a ploy to have one of us shot and the other skate through. You may not trust me entirely, but this is entirely sensible, and ensures that you pretty much get TWO reads off of a single action tonight. You have found VA townie, but he is not. You have found me scummy at times, but if we had gone with my plan of lynching outside the cops and lynching CR, we would have eliminated MCB (bee tee dubs, scum need all the night KP they can get, finishing off an entire team would be BAD for scum, and scum would not want that to happen) Any bus works, any shot works, but I think that by shooting into the two of us you get two reads for the price of one. On October 08 2013 14:36 austinmcc wrote: The night action is up to Koshi, but I think there's good reason to shoot into us. There are other good options, but I think this provides the MOST information. We also will know what he did, because he'll tell us right before it happens. If scum want to bother roleblocking him or vesting someone, they're short 1 KP. And they don't know if the vest is wasted, because they don't know if VA will get shot. They'd run the chance that they vest him, I get shot, they have a member outed AND lost a KP. Bad fo scum. There's a teensy weensy itsy bitsy chance we're both town, but I just don't see things playing out like that. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I like those odds. F'sho. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
When you were outed as scum in PTP at the end of the game, did you lie about anything regarding yourself and/or when you attempted to get kita lynched? If so, what did you lie about? (it's been a long time since that game and I was already long dead at that point---don't feel like rereading again but I will if you make me.) | ||
austinmcc
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On October 11 2013 10:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Austin I have one question for you. When you were outed as scum in PTP at the end of the game, did you lie about anything regarding yourself and/or when you attempted to get kita lynched? If so, what did you lie about? (it's been a long time since that game and I was already long dead at that point---don't feel like rereading again but I will if you make me.) Yeah. We both doctored our PMs. Kita doctors his QT to make it look like he was neutral survivor, I doctored geript and myself in QT to make it look like geript told me kita had claimed mafia-aligned 3P. I also edited OUT any mentions of my mind control power, as it was necessary to my winning. But in general, once I accidentally claimed, I was honest and in an odd way scumhunted kita, trying to convince gonzaw/crossfire that kita was the more dangerous anti-town faction. Otherwise, apart from editing out mind control and rewording a couple geript posts, it's all legit. Truth and healthy healthy amounts of paranoia. Dudes who wait til N23 or N27 or whatever to NK the last townie in a 1-1 scenario are not dudes who let their scumbuddies claim scum. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 11 2013 10:52 austinmcc wrote: Yeah. We both doctored our PMs. Kita doctors his QT to make it look like he was neutral survivor, I doctored geript and myself in QT to make it look like geript told me kita had claimed mafia-aligned 3P. I also edited OUT any mentions of my mind control power, as it was necessary to my winning. But in general, once I accidentally claimed, I was honest and in an odd way scumhunted kita, trying to convince gonzaw/crossfire that kita was the more dangerous anti-town faction. Otherwise, apart from editing out mind control and rewording a couple geript posts, it's all legit. Truth and healthy healthy amounts of paranoia. Dudes who wait til N23 or N27 or whatever to NK the last townie in a 1-1 scenario are not dudes who let their scumbuddies claim scum. Yeah but that's not what I was getting at. Besides, you claimed scum yourself that game. I was essentially just trying to see exactly how tryhard you played it towards end and exactly how much pre-planning and lying there was involved because I never understood exactly what happened at the end of that game. It turns out quite a lot. It's a shame because all your answer did was show me that no matter how towny you look here, it don't mean shit. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On October 11 2013 10:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah but that's not what I was getting at. Besides, you claimed scum yourself that game. I was essentially just trying to see exactly how tryhard you played it towards end and exactly how much pre-planning and lying there was involved because I never understood exactly what happened at the end of that game. It turns out quite a lot. It's a shame because all your answer did was show me that no matter how towny you look here, it don't mean shit. WHICH LOOKS TOWNIE IN CONTEXT!!! WHICH DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER!! WHY CAN'T WE CLEAR YOU AUSTIN?!?! WHHHHYYY??!?!? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 11 2013 10:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah but that's not what I was getting at. Besides, you claimed scum yourself that game. I was essentially just trying to see exactly how tryhard you played it towards end and exactly how much pre-planning and lying there was involved because I never understood exactly what happened at the end of that game. It turns out quite a lot. It's a shame because all your answer did was show me that no matter how towny you look here, it don't mean shit. Like the issue is I was trying to see if that 'healthy dose of paranoia' you threw into that game and you had this game are in any way different and it turns out they're not. If you're capable of real paranoia as scum you're certainly capable of faking it here imo, or having it be real as town. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 11 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote: WHICH LOOKS TOWNIE IN CONTEXT!!! WHICH DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER!! WHY CAN'T WE CLEAR YOU AUSTIN?!?! WHHHHYYY??!?!? Lol I thought that too. Essentially Austin has backed himself into a neat little corner where nobody can ever trust anything he does no matter what. I think it's going to be a gamble in the end either way. Right now my odds are still on CC flipping red though---it's probably easier to look into CC to determine which of them is scum than Austin. | ||
VisceraEyes
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On October 11 2013 11:00 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol I thought that too. Essentially Austin has backed himself into a neat little corner where nobody can ever trust anything he does no matter what. I think it's going to be a gamble in the end either way. Right now my odds are still on CC flipping red though---it's probably easier to look into CC to determine which of them is scum than Austin. Yeah, that was going to be my next approach. Wave if you're scum, I can never trust you again. You realize this yes? | ||
austinmcc
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There was no pre-planning. I did a crapton of spamming QT alone about how I think crossfire is a bus driving NRA member vet, when trying to figure out who to shoot the night before the final lynch. I spent my whole weekend dealing with an ex IRL and making charts about crossfire and what he might do with his 8 billion stupid townie powers. I never intended to claim. I thought game was over. Crossfire was a vote thief, and I was brain dead enough after my weekend to think that once he stole a vote once it was stuck where he put it. So I claimed in response to that, thinking there was no way to lose. No plan. Super tryhard after that, but ... entirely not pre-planned. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 11 2013 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh, gotcha. I don't think I was pushing kita based on paranoia.Like the issue is I was trying to see if that 'healthy dose of paranoia' you threw into that game and you had this game are in any way different and it turns out they're not. If you're capable of real paranoia as scum you're certainly capable of faking it here imo, or having it be real as town. We KNEW he had shots. We KNEW he had claimed a role some rewording of weeping angel, that's a villian in the Dr. Who universe. I KNEW via geript that he was not neutral, or...was like 90% certain, based on what geript had said. So it wasn't preying on paranoia to lynch kita. I AM paranoid as scum, but it comes out in a different way. Check the last bit of scum QT from PTP4, or from...Aperture 3. I get crazy paranoid over shots, who might have what power, etc. etc. etc. Either one of those highlights my paranoia outlet as scum, I just blabber on in QT about all the possible things that could happen. | ||
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