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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:35 austinmcc wrote: P'shaw. Also, that someone else is gonna flip mafia. Who, CR? Well you're in luck because I may be on board for that now, despite his intriguing insights. We'll see what happens with NKs. I won't be using vest again, not that scum gives a shit. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
I am now confirmed town. Why would i NOT try to get ALL THE INFO I POSSIBLY CAN from guaranteed scum? What's the harm? Why are you questioning my motives? | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who is town should have "agreed with me" to make Solstice feel comfortable and make him feel like he has higher chances of survival. Instead you shouted the possibly brilliant plan down for no reason. nope | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
I don't believe you because you are scum. :D | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who is town should have "agreed with me" to make Solstice feel comfortable and make him feel like he has higher chances of survival. Instead you shouted the possibly brilliant plan down for no reason. Nah just being logical, Rayn. Solstice isn't dumb and neither am I. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Yes, CR. With koshi's confirmations, it's down to you/CC/CR/VA/pandain. 2/3 of you/pandain/cc are town. CR and VA totes mafiosi.Who, CR? Well you're in luck because I may be on board for that now, despite his intriguing insights. We'll see what happens with NKs. I won't be using vest again, not that scum gives a shit. On October 08 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who is town should have "agreed with me" to make Solstice feel comfortable and make him feel like he has higher chances of survival. Instead you shouted the possibly brilliant plan down for no reason. #1 - s0lstice isn't dumb. #2 - If you check my filter, we'd already poked around and gone over numbers on what flips would mean, and I'd written way too much about why the last MCB cannot win. It's why I ruled out cop claimers as MCB, because the MCB in the open cannot win the game period. So I didn't think you were going to get anything AND everyone could go "AMG AUSTINMCC SAID MCB COULDN'T WIN EARLIER NOW SAYS THE MCB CAN WIN IF HE COOPERATES SO INCONSISTENT" | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Do you think s0lstice is dumb? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Nah just being logical, Rayn. Solstice isn't dumb and neither am I. tbh WoS, that's not a reason to try. 90% of my "traps and shit" will not work. But if i succeed even in 1/100 it's worth it. You don't lose by making mistakes, you lose by not trying to do everything you can to kill scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:42 austinmcc wrote: Hey WoS, Do you think s0lstice is dumb? Yeah i also thought Ace is not dumb in NWM.... | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: tbh WoS, that's not a reason to try. 90% of my "traps and shit" will not work. But if i succeed even in 1/100 it's worth it. You don't lose by making mistakes, you lose by not trying to do everything you can to kill scum. True, which is why I didn't flat out say RAYN AMG NEVER LIE AS TOWN WTF because I've seen you make it work. Doesn't mean a) I caught on to you doing anything b) Even had I caught on, I'd lie along with you. I supported your attempt to try and get information out of Solstice, but i expressed myself in that I said I didn't think he had any reason to comply. Don't really see the problem. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't believe you because you are scum. :D Naturally  but seriously though there are so many confounding variables in the equation. make gambit-->town should react in way X-->those who dont are scum How townies should react is colored by each individual play style and how each person views the game at the moment. This confounds the transition from step 2 to step 3. Townies act suspicious/do not make the smart play all the time and you have no way of accounting for that. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: I actually found Palmar's burst of activity in this game really similar to that. I called Ace scummy at one point in that game because he was happy to fill the thread with fighting about your nuke claim, but not with decent posts. Palmar was happy to fight with you, but not actually post.Yeah i also thought Ace is not dumb in NWM.... I don't think it's really something to look for, so I didn't put it in anti-Palmar posts. On October 08 2013 03:45 s0Lstice wrote: Hear that? You're confounding the transition, rayn.Naturally but seriously though there are so many confounding variables in the equation. make gambit-->town should react in way X-->those who dont are scum How townies should react is colored by each individual play style and how each person views the game at the moment. This confounds the transition from step 2 to step 3. Townies act suspicious/do not make the smart play all the time and you have no way of accounting for that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote: True, which is why I didn't flat out say RAYN AMG NEVER LIE AS TOWN WTF because I've seen you make it work. Doesn't mean a) I caught on to you doing anything b) Even had I caught on, I'd lie along with you. I supported your attempt to try and get information out of Solstice, but i expressed myself in that I said I didn't think he had any reason to comply. Don't really see the problem. That's bad WoS. When Sol effectively claimed scum, you should have thought "what are rayn's intentions? Okay, he is town, what is he trying to do? Why?" This is even more clear situation for other townies than it was in NWM (where i understand people fucked up -- or reacted in a way i was not expecting -- because of paranoia). There was no possible paranoia in this one. Because you guys can be sure i am town! | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's bad WoS. When Sol effectively claimed scum, you should have thought "what are rayn's intentions? Okay, he is town, what is he trying to do? Why?" This is even more clear situation for other townies than it was in NWM (where i understand people fucked up -- or reacted in a way i was not expecting -- because of paranoia). There was no possible paranoia in this one. Because you guys can be sure i am town! I wasn't paranoid about your actions. i just didn't really think anything was going to come of it. Solstice any particular reason you chose me for a fake townread? DOES THAT MEAN YOU THINK IM TOWNIE? AMG <3 | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote: I wasn't paranoid about your actions. i just didn't really think anything was going to come of it. Solstice any particular reason you chose me for a fake townread? DOES THAT MEAN YOU THINK IM TOWNIE? AMG <3 Yea plus this sets you up for the long game hue | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 08 2013 03:52 s0Lstice wrote: Yea plus this sets you up for the long game hue Yeah set me up for WIFOM you little minx. | ||
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