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Cramsy
Australia1100 Posts
On October 03 2013 15:17 Penguinator wrote: How the hell did the entire StarCraft 2 scene manage to collapse in the span of one year? It grew fucking quick with SC2 and couldn't support itself. It's not completely fucked now, but it's going to keep shrinking until it levels out. That and kind of shitty support from blizzard. It's clear that the whole sc2 esports thing isn't big on their agenda. | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
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TriZ
Belgium379 Posts
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Pegas
Romania211 Posts
I wish that TL will make an appearence next season maybe in a different format who knows, but for me as a SC2 watcher was awesome to see them (winning or loosing - ok maybe winning more than loosing but was still fun). On October 03 2013 15:17 Penguinator wrote: How the hell did the entire StarCraft 2 scene manage to collapse in the span of one year? I belive everyone points the finger at the WCS system. On October 03 2013 14:12 Traceback wrote: SC2 just feels really stagnant to me. That is my main qualm with it and where I feel is most falls short compared to other games. The feeling of beeing stagnant comes from the 1v1 matchup. Let me expand on this a bit : MOBA games have the option to rely on someone else to make you win evan if you perform poorly. SC2 is like ping-pong, mainly a solo competitive game. The better you get the bigger the ego grows, but while u inflate it, you also push people away. Myself have done that aswel without noticing it at start. Add up the fact that you become lazy after a while where the hype is gone or you played too much and that is the starting point when starcraft players start droping (ex : could be the fact that you preffer the pay to win system or enjoying to play with more than 2 friends online, or a better game coming out and the hype train just moves with you aboard, which I find nothing wrong wtih tbh). | ||
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On October 03 2013 16:07 Black[CAT] wrote: A good game will rise by itself. Pretty much expecting the Korean scene to be closed by next year. I good game may rise by itself, but a good game alone cannot sustain itself. It must have constructive 3rd party support for that. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On October 03 2013 16:11 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: I good game may rise by itself, but a good game alone cannot sustain itself. It must have constructive 3rd party support for that. Depends what you mean by sustain. For the most part games-turned-esports have grown and self-sustained (with or without dev support) for a long time before third parties started investing in them, especially the competitive side of things. Starcraft 2 scene was actually among the rare few that got instantly jump-started because some people obviously thought that if they throw enough money at it and generate enough hype around it, they can fabricate what's supposed to grow on its own, and reap benefits down the road. But in the end, there are no benefits and nobody is going to pay unreasonable amounts of money just to sustain a very limited marketing platform that fewer and fewer people have any real connection to or emotional investment in. | ||
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Hadronsbecrazy
United Kingdom551 Posts
what about Taeja and HerO? | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2739 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On October 03 2013 17:04 Hadronsbecrazy wrote: so where will they all go now? Will Jaedong move to the EG Lair in America or stay in his parents house in Korea? what about Taeja and HerO? They'd be stupid to poison their career by playing on the weakest server. | ||
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ReboundEU
508 Posts
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ftm
Australia47 Posts
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5572 Posts
On October 02 2013 23:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Speaking for Liquid we're exploring various options for HerO still. He is temporarily residing at the IM house. TaeJa always lived at home. Zenio has preferred to live at home ever since Park's departure some months ago. Snute right now is on a European trip where he played ATC, DH Bucharest, Millenium Finals, and a Norwegian tournament. He will go to IEM New York and from there go back to Korea for another month or so, where he will be staying with CJ under the watchful eye of our good friend Coach Park. That is really cool  Snute is lika his padawan learner. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On October 03 2013 18:08 ftm wrote: 1a2a3a4a1a2a3a4a1a2a3a4a1a2a3a4a1a2a3a4a1a2a3a4a oh wait i don't have to do that anymore... 1a click. more like 1a/s/h/p 2a/s/h/p 3a/s/h/p etc., depending on your hotkeys ofc. Ontopic: Bad news all over the place. Let's hope SC2 only shortens and does not die. I would really like to see it continue. Could someone please explain to me why WCS is ruining SC2 exactly? | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
Die hard BW casuals just wanna extend their love for Starcraft to a newer generation whilst former BW pros (Both ESF and foreign) wanted to get a piece of the prizepool rather than loving the game. When the Kespa pros began to switch to SC2 all the ESF and Foreigners simply quit the SC2 scene since they can no longer earn easy money whilst Kespa pros retire since they are forced to play a game fulltime which they don’t enjoy. Then boom, there goes the SC2 bubble. | ||
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emanresU
Germany393 Posts
On October 02 2013 23:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Speaking for Liquid we're exploring various options for HerO still. He is temporarily residing at the IM house. TaeJa always lived at home. Zenio has preferred to live at home ever since Park's departure some months ago. Snute right now is on a European trip where he played ATC, DH Bucharest, Millenium Finals, and a Norwegian tournament. He will go to IEM New York and from there go back to Korea for another month or so, where he will be staying with CJ under the watchful eye of our good friend Coach Park. That's good news thx for clarifying~ | ||
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Aureknight
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