On October 09 2013 05:57 juki wrote: DES article here suggests that EG-TL is has indeed decided to not participate in the next Proleague.
Another article here says that Jaedong has moved into his older brother's house and is practicing there. It's not clear how permanent the arrangement is, but he plans to participate in WCS America Season 3 as expected.
Well that's a load of dogshit.
JD needs to basically tell EG to get him into a real team house or just ditch them. He's been doing so well, I'd hate to see him start falling off because of lack of good practice. If he becomes a stay-at-home EG streaming hero I will have to go into therapy.
But EG can still afford to fly him all over the world. You could argue that experience was more critical to his improvement than having a real team house with Coach Park.
Possible. I'd still like to see him get a practice spot with ST(dream scenario). He is one of the best zergs in the world atm, and arguably the most consistent. I think most pro teams would be happy to have him stay and practice with them.
Agh, why are they closing the team house in Korea but keep the frat house in the U.S.? I mean on the one side we had a house with the players that have been carrying EG in both individual events and team leagues world wide, and on the other side we have a house in which the best players of EG in that region (Xeno and Suppy) aren't even living in.
On October 09 2013 07:01 JustPassingBy wrote: Agh, why are they closing the team house in Korea but keep the frat house in the U.S.? I mean on the one side we had a house with the players that have been carrying EG in both individual events and team leagues world wide, and on the other side we have a house in which the best players of EG in that region (Xeno and Suppy) aren't even living in.
On October 09 2013 07:01 JustPassingBy wrote: Agh, why are they closing the team house in Korea but keep the frat house in the U.S.? I mean on the one side we had a house with the players that have been carrying EG in both individual events and team leagues world wide, and on the other side we have a house in which the best players of EG in that region (Xeno and Suppy) aren't even living in.
I know right? It doesn't make sense to me either.
I'd bet money they're phasing that out. Who's left there? Demuslim, Machine and ...? Are they even still there?
I never really understood the disdain for the EG US house. Maybe it didn't do as much for them as a hardcore Korean-style house would but it certainly doesn't warrant the majority of comments it gets.
On October 09 2013 07:01 JustPassingBy wrote: Agh, why are they closing the team house in Korea but keep the frat house in the U.S.? I mean on the one side we had a house with the players that have been carrying EG in both individual events and team leagues world wide, and on the other side we have a house in which the best players of EG in that region (Xeno and Suppy) aren't even living in.
I know right? It doesn't make sense to me either.
I'd bet money they're phasing that out. Who's left there? Demuslim, Machine and ...? Are they even still there?
I never really understood the disdain for the EG US house. Maybe it didn't do as much for them as a hardcore Korean-style house would but it certainly doesn't warrant the majority of comments it gets.
On October 03 2013 06:39 HardlyNever wrote: The irony in all this is that this might be what ultimately breaks the korean dominance in sc2 (not EGTL house closing). What I mean is if sc2 becomes no longer viable as an esport in korea (or incredibly tiny) we might see what most people claim they want to see: a scene dominated by "foreigners," mostly europeans.
I still think we are a long way away from that, but I think the only way we will see koreans lose their dominance of the scene is if they basically just stop playing the game. Will the quality of the games suffer? Probably? Will the "community" care? Who knows?
Can sc2 even survive without Korea?
No, SC2 wont survive without Korea. Just imagine PING-PONG without China.
On October 03 2013 06:39 HardlyNever wrote: The irony in all this is that this might be what ultimately breaks the korean dominance in sc2 (not EGTL house closing). What I mean is if sc2 becomes no longer viable as an esport in korea (or incredibly tiny) we might see what most people claim they want to see: a scene dominated by "foreigners," mostly europeans.
I still think we are a long way away from that, but I think the only way we will see koreans lose their dominance of the scene is if they basically just stop playing the game. Will the quality of the games suffer? Probably? Will the "community" care? Who knows?
Can sc2 even survive without Korea?
No, SC2 wont survive without Korea. Just imagine PING-PONG without China.
Both scenarios would mean the Swedes return to dominance
I realize I'm a week late, but it was expected. Most of the EG players, even the Korean ones, are involved a lot in international tournaments to be focused on purely Korean events. On top of that, EGTL in various Korean leagues isn't playing anymore? So, why waste money to rent a place that's barely even being used?
On October 03 2013 06:39 HardlyNever wrote: The irony in all this is that this might be what ultimately breaks the korean dominance in sc2 (not EGTL house closing). What I mean is if sc2 becomes no longer viable as an esport in korea (or incredibly tiny) we might see what most people claim they want to see: a scene dominated by "foreigners," mostly europeans.
I still think we are a long way away from that, but I think the only way we will see koreans lose their dominance of the scene is if they basically just stop playing the game. Will the quality of the games suffer? Probably? Will the "community" care? Who knows?
Can sc2 even survive without Korea?
No, SC2 wont survive without Korea. Just imagine PING-PONG without China.
Both scenarios would mean the Swedes return to dominance
Mmm, maybe they'll look at Viking roots and find out how to effectively harass as Protoss (cough Naniwa cough)
On October 09 2013 07:01 JustPassingBy wrote: Agh, why are they closing the team house in Korea but keep the frat house in the U.S.? I mean on the one side we had a house with the players that have been carrying EG in both individual events and team leagues world wide, and on the other side we have a house in which the best players of EG in that region (Xeno and Suppy) aren't even living in.
I know right? It doesn't make sense to me either.
I'd bet money they're phasing that out. Who's left there? Demuslim, Machine and ...? Are they even still there?
I never really understood the disdain for the EG US house. Maybe it didn't do as much for them as a hardcore Korean-style house would but it certainly doesn't warrant the majority of comments it gets.
Overblown expectation. EG had the money to do everything, anything. That and the great longing of the foreign communite to see its payers finally compete on the level of the Koreans.
edit: Oh, and Germany would like to have a say in it, please. Both table tennis and starcraft.
On October 03 2013 06:39 HardlyNever wrote: The irony in all this is that this might be what ultimately breaks the korean dominance in sc2 (not EGTL house closing). What I mean is if sc2 becomes no longer viable as an esport in korea (or incredibly tiny) we might see what most people claim they want to see: a scene dominated by "foreigners," mostly europeans.
I still think we are a long way away from that, but I think the only way we will see koreans lose their dominance of the scene is if they basically just stop playing the game. Will the quality of the games suffer? Probably? Will the "community" care? Who knows?
Can sc2 even survive without Korea?
No, SC2 wont survive without Korea. Just imagine PING-PONG without China.
Both scenarios would mean the Swedes return to dominance
On October 03 2013 06:39 HardlyNever wrote: The irony in all this is that this might be what ultimately breaks the korean dominance in sc2 (not EGTL house closing). What I mean is if sc2 becomes no longer viable as an esport in korea (or incredibly tiny) we might see what most people claim they want to see: a scene dominated by "foreigners," mostly europeans.
I still think we are a long way away from that, but I think the only way we will see koreans lose their dominance of the scene is if they basically just stop playing the game. Will the quality of the games suffer? Probably? Will the "community" care? Who knows?
Can sc2 even survive without Korea?
No, SC2 wont survive without Korea. Just imagine PING-PONG without China.
On October 09 2013 07:01 JustPassingBy wrote: Agh, why are they closing the team house in Korea but keep the frat house in the U.S.? I mean on the one side we had a house with the players that have been carrying EG in both individual events and team leagues world wide, and on the other side we have a house in which the best players of EG in that region (Xeno and Suppy) aren't even living in.
I know right? It doesn't make sense to me either.
I'd bet money they're phasing that out. Who's left there? Demuslim, Machine and ...? Are they even still there?
I never really understood the disdain for the EG US house. Maybe it didn't do as much for them as a hardcore Korean-style house would but it certainly doesn't warrant the majority of comments it gets.
Overblown expectation. EG had the money to do everything, anything. That and the great longing of the foreign communite to see its payers finally compete on the level of the Koreans.
edit: Oh, and Germany would like to have a say in it, please. Both table tennis and starcraft.
But how is overblown expectations in any way the fault of the EG US house? It gets a lot of flack when it tried something new that nobody else seemed willing to at the time. And I guarantee you the players that were there got considerably better than they would have at home. Seems like it was a success to me. If you're trying to turn shit into gold but turn it into anything better than shit you don't say it's a failure. You simply succeeded in doing something else.
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