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Do you think I'm wasting my time, Grack?
Are you confirmed town to the rest of the thread?
I got plenty of info out of you. I have played in this forum for longer then nearly all of you. If I do something which seems dumb, there's probably a reason behind it. If I lurk for certain reasons, another reason.
Don't question what I'm doing. I never waste my time.
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Did you lie about your arabic test?
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No, I'm working on it.
I'm currently on a ten minute break I allowed myself.
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If someone would help me understand when hamza occurs and how it differs from without hamza, I would greatly appreciate a PM.
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On September 30 2013 07:19 Pandain wrote: I think his responses are fine for the moment. He's not more scummy then FT.
Grack have you just been defending yourself or also reading into our alignments and if so what do you think. I agree with this. If people are looking into Palmar I wouldn't mind someone's thoughts on this:
On September 29 2013 03:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 02:59 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2013 02:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Seriously though let's be fair here. Ego boost since last few games aside, I wouldn't call myself Ace or anything. I don't consider myself awful anymore but I think I'm decent. LXI, in which we both played Palmar, was a horrible game for me and was still pretty early in my mafia career. I don't think I've had a game that bad since (maybe one where I smurfed). You can check my profile for my games if you'd like to see my performance in any of them. Maybe. LXI is my baseline. You played in Ego with me as well and I had Axle and Tunkeg nailed if I remember correctly. I was certainly capable of playing better than LXI even back then. In any case, are you going to base all of your perceptions of my play on a game that occurred literally before the halfway point of my time on TL mafia? Because that would be terrible. Are you terrible, Palmar?
On September 29 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 03:15 Blazinghand wrote: I'd vote you wos but my vote is needed on the yanato wagon Well I'm flattered, but spoken for. I think I had Palmar as town originally but now I'm curious. What kind of Palmar wouldn't bother putting in the effort to check my play in the months since I've played with him and base his read of me entirely on that? I'm kinda thinking that's still town Palmar.
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hahaha ok. It was just the way you said you were lurking for certain reasons.
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On September 30 2013 07:30 Pandain wrote: If someone would help me understand when hamza occurs and how it differs from without hamza, I would greatly appreciate a PM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamza
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There's definitely some lurkers here that didn't want to get in the middle of this.
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So I have no idea why anyone shot BH or what this means. The only people that trusted him even remotely were pandain, grack, and palmar. Everybody else tried to throw suspicion on him or said he was scummy. He died though so we know it wasn't a cop kill. Sooo wtf is going on here.
Palmar/Pandain probably come off looking the worst from this since palmar gave him a town read and visa versa and pandain is trying to lynch FT through his dead body. Grack has some sort of boner for BH where he looks up to him so that is a potential fear kill.
No need to reply to this post, I won't read it
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VayneAuthority, lurker detected.
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Vayne is probably scum. Also a generally good shot. I would suggest cops to shoot him, as it's hard to differentiate his town and scum play.
He's clearly reading due to what he's saying but he's acting like he doesn't give a shit. Town reads are Cheesecake and SnB. If Palmar doesn't push today, he's probably scum.
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On September 30 2013 07:39 Pandain wrote: Vayne is probably scum. Also a generally good shot. I would suggest cops to shoot him, as it's hard to differentiate his town and scum play.
He's clearly reading due to what he's saying but he's acting like he doesn't give a shit. Town reads are Cheesecake and SnB. If Palmar doesn't push today, he's probably scum.
I welcome the cops shooting me, it confirms town members and I have no reason to use my vest so it will refund the bullet. go for it.
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I'm not afraid of BH you silly Vayne. In my random scum teams post I took the 3 biggest lurkers and the people I viewed as the 3 best scumhunters and I already said BH's town play just consists of him tunneling the least contributive poster into oblivion.
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I've been looking over the thread a bit, especially at the BH kill. It's possible that he got killed by both mafia, or just one mafia, or got shot by the police. However I don't think police would shoot someone on the first night, especially not BH. I would just narrow it down to one or both mafia teams shooting BH. If only one of them shot BH, then the other either did a drive by or got vested. I think we should try to determine if one of the scum teams did a drive by, because that would give us really good information going into day 3. If someone comes out and says they vested and it blocked a shot, we can confirm that neither of the scum teams have 2 KP.
As for killing BH, from reading the thread, I think BH was killed by someone who had some sort of relation to him. Most of BH's posts were about the whole RNG thing. If I was scum, I wouldn't shoot BH in hopes that he wastes more time on d2. This leads me to believe that the scum team that shot BH wasn't just 3 lurkers, and at least one of them had to have some strong interaction with BH. So I think there are three possible motives:
1. BH was shot because he was strongly pushing against FT and this kill was to protect FT. This kill also really puts the spotlight on FT, but at the same time that's also a reason scum could use to make FT seem innocent. In the end, it becomes an endless chain or circular logic that we can't really look into. The simplest solution is that this kill really benefited FT, and I think FT looks scummy because of it.
2. BH was shot so that a discussion can be made around FT, which creates a diversion from someone else who already looks kinda scummy. If this were true, it would also be consistent with my read that the scum team isn't 3 lurkers with no relation to BH. I would need to read more into the thread to see who could be scum in this case.
3. Near the end, BH was giving a strong townread on palmer. Palmer was active at this point. BH might have been killed so to give his townread on palmer more credibility. This gives Palmer an incentive to kill BH if he was scum. However, looking through his filter, I actually think Palmer is quite town, so I dunno here.
One other thing I am willing to gamble on is that Palmer and FirmTofu cannot be in the same scum team. Killing BH would draw way too much unnecessary attention on them, and also it would be really weird for them to kill BH when he's giving a scumread on one of them and a townread on the other. I don't think they would kill BH even to be meta.
Right now I'm going to be looking more into FT. However, I don't want to vote him this early on simply because he's the easiest target, and if he flips town, it will not put us in a good position.
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chairman ray at least read the OP please. BH was not shot by the police, it is actually impossible.
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Did Rayn ever explain why CR is town?
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On September 30 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote: Did Rayn ever explain why CR is town?
2dumb2bscum?
doesn't even know the basic rules of the setup yet. but then again koshi didn't either and thats his claim to fame as scum. acting too dumb.
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On September 30 2013 07:44 VayneAuthority wrote: chairman ray at least read the OP please. BH was not shot by the police, it is actually impossible.
What about lethal force?
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On September 30 2013 07:46 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 07:44 VayneAuthority wrote: chairman ray at least read the OP please. BH was not shot by the police, it is actually impossible. What about lethal force?
and who in the thread currently would use lethal force on a person that can be very useful as town when you can just precision shot him?
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